Look under Alternative Minimum Tax.
Look under the exclusions of who does not get all those extra "tax reliefs" that Congress passes.

go99 wrote:What higher taxes? I keep hearing this and I am still wonder what higher taxes you are talking about? FYI you pay for the lazy asses healthcare anyway. Hospitals here cannot refuse to treat someone because they cannot pay. They go to the emergency room and are treated, there cost is passed on to everyone who does pay. This is why you pay $20 for the asprin etc. That's one of the problems, it is just cheaper to treat them before it becomes a major problem. We could always say "if you can't pay upfront the just go somewhere and die" This would also solve our healthcare problem. Coincidentally something very similar to this is occuring in China, a communist country. Many of the new modern hospitals are for profit hospitals and if you cannot pay upfront then you are not treated. So I will take a list of those higher taxes you are talking about, because I can't find them.

C'mon GO, surely you're up on the issue. You wanted change, well it's coming. Just get on google and look at the President's proposed tax hikes for 2011. Who exactly do you think he's coming after, certainly not all those smart young people that voted for him. Those people are only the ones that will reap the benefits without much sacrifice, exactly what the Democrat system is all about, right.

CLUB31 wrote:That's what I said...I also don't think as many kids change teams as everyone thinks. Most coaches don't cut a kid that helped them make d1 or d2 at the u12 level and there are not that many spots avaliable. Exceptions to the rule, sure, but for the most part I would say if there are 15 boys on a current d1 team 13 or 14 will be on the team next year.

It will be too bad if Solar does not make D1, because with the addition of a couple players, that team would be top 5 in D1 easily. If they don't, hopefully they stick it out and stay together for a year.

Ibystander wrote:

CLUB31 wrote:That's what I said...I also don't think as many kids change teams as everyone thinks. Most coaches don't cut a kid that helped them make d1 or d2 at the u12 level and there are not that many spots avaliable. Exceptions to the rule, sure, but for the most part I would say if there are 15 boys on a current d1 team 13 or 14 will be on the team next year.

I like your optimism, but I would think that teams that squeak into d1 would really try to beef up their roster. Craft, being head and shoulders above everyone, might keep his 13 or 14, but I see others trying to shuffle.

That's 50-60 kids from the current D1 group doing the shuffle this Spring. That's a lot of movement.

whyme wrote:Look under Alternative Minimum Tax.
Look under the exclusions of who does not get all those extra "tax reliefs" that Congress passes.

Okay I did and the AMT are scheduled to be lower in 2010 than they were in 09 unless congress passes legislation to change it. Ther was a small increase for 09 but no where near as impressive as the one for 08. The AMT is also not exactly a tax, it is a calculation that helps to determine which you pay. The regular tax or the AMT but not both. It was enacted in the 70's so that's gonna be a no there. Also the exclusion of a tax cut does not count as a tax increase. Surely we are not counting the bush tax breaks for higher income or Reagan capital gains cuts as an increase in Taxes for thos who do not qualify
Looks up the propossed 2011 tax hike like you suggested. Seem to have no official backing but is noted in several place but all traced back to the original source coming from "the Heritage Foundation" a conservative policy research and anaylisis group. Hardly the impartial source I was looking for. Again FEAR seams to be the main component in play A theoretical budget and tax increase that has yet to be made or approved more than a year away. Come on guys "weak sauce" Here's some help. He does want to let the temporary bush tax cuts for higher incomes expire. Of course congress doesn't need his help to extend them so that may or may not come to fruition. Hey that's something right? Sounds like you are scared of something and you aren't even sure of what it is or why. But "they" told you the bogey man is coming. Oooo scary stuff. What took hundreds of years to build will be destroyed in only 4.

go99 wrote:

whyme wrote:Look under Alternative Minimum Tax.
Look under the exclusions of who does not get all those extra "tax reliefs" that Congress passes.

Okay I did and the AMT are scheduled to be lower in 2010 than they were in 09 unless congress passes legislation to change it. Ther was a small increase for 09 but no where near as impressive as the one for 08. The AMT is also not exactly a tax, it is a calculation that helps to determine which you pay. The regular tax or the AMT but not both. It was enacted in the 70's so that's gonna be a no there. Also the exclusion of a tax cut does not count as a tax increase. Surely we are not counting the bush tax breaks for higher income or Reagan capital gains cuts as an increase in Taxes for thos who do not qualify
Looks up the propossed 2011 tax hike like you suggested. Seem to have no official backing but is noted in several place but all traced back to the original source coming from "the Heritage Foundation" a conservative policy research and anaylisis group. Hardly the impartial source I was looking for. Again FEAR seams to be the main component in play A theoretical budget and tax increase that has yet to be made or approved more than a year away. Come on guys "weak sauce" Here's some help. He does want to let the temporary bush tax cuts for higher incomes expire. Of course congress doesn't need his help to extend them so that may or may not come to fruition. Hey that's something right? Sounds like you are scared of something and you aren't even sure of what it is or why. But "they" told you the bogey man is coming. Oooo scary stuff. What took hundreds of years to build will be destroyed in only 4.

Gee I am growing old Go: I can't fight those battles anymore. I am proud of you though.

go99 wrote:

whyme wrote:Look under Alternative Minimum Tax.
Look under the exclusions of who does not get all those extra "tax reliefs" that Congress passes.

Okay I did and the AMT are scheduled to be lower in 2010 than they were in 09 unless congress passes legislation to change it. Ther was a small increase for 09 but no where near as impressive as the one for 08. The AMT is also not exactly a tax, it is a calculation that helps to determine which you pay. The regular tax or the AMT but not both. It was enacted in the 70's so that's gonna be a no there. Also the exclusion of a tax cut does not count as a tax increase. Surely we are not counting the bush tax breaks for higher income or Reagan capital gains cuts as an increase in Taxes for thos who do not qualify
Looks up the propossed 2011 tax hike like you suggested. Seem to have no official backing but is noted in several place but all traced back to the original source coming from "the Heritage Foundation" a conservative policy research and anaylisis group. Hardly the impartial source I was looking for. Again FEAR seams to be the main component in play A theoretical budget and tax increase that has yet to be made or approved more than a year away. Come on guys "weak sauce" Here's some help. He does want to let the temporary bush tax cuts for higher incomes expire. Of course congress doesn't need his help to extend them so that may or may not come to fruition. Hey that's something right? Sounds like you are scared of something and you aren't even sure of what it is or why. But "they" told you the bogey man is coming. Oooo scary stuff. What took hundreds of years to build will be destroyed in only 4.

Can we please stop this asinine, political bravado! Start your own thread (preferrably on another board) if you want to pound your chest about how awesome socialized medicine is or bitch and moan about the bullet shortage or even argue about what constitutes a "tax"! At the end of the day, the game of soccer should be an escape from the realities of politicians who are merely servants to their own, corrupt agendas.... kinda like most NTX Soccer parents. And just for the record: Taxes=BAD! Bullets=GOOD!

Not sure what happened here gab. We used to be a country of great people, ideas and deads. Now we glimpses of our former selves ruled by anger, fear and hatred of each other. Former greatness afraid of it's own shadow. Nothing get's done because we have made it so that there are only 2 sides and they are required to hate each other. Democracy is compromises and the coming together of ideas and this is dead. And yes let's move on, but I did not bring it up

go99 wrote:Not sure what happened here gab. We used to be a country of great people, ideas and deads. Now we glimpses of our former selves ruled by anger, fear and hatred of each other. Former greatness afraid of it's own shadow. Nothing get's done because we have made it so that there are only 2 sides and they are required to hate each other. Democracy is compromises and the coming together of ideas and this is dead. And yes let's move on, but I did not bring it up

What a load of crap! There have been 2 sides since the beginning of time. Don't you watch Lost?!?!

rip wrote:

go99 wrote:Not sure what happened here gab. We used to be a country of great people, ideas and deads. Now we glimpses of our former selves ruled by anger, fear and hatred of each other. Former greatness afraid of it's own shadow. Nothing get's done because we have made it so that there are only 2 sides and they are required to hate each other. Democracy is compromises and the coming together of ideas and this is dead. And yes let's move on, but I did not bring it up

What a load of crap! There have been 2 sides since the beginning of time. Don't you watch Lost?!?!

Has anyone seen Pamela's new tattoo? And what does this have to do with Figo? The Suarez bashers are waiting in the wings. Someone moved GO's cheese.

finish1 wrote:

rip wrote:

go99 wrote:Not sure what happened here gab. We used to be a country of great people, ideas and deads. Now we glimpses of our former selves ruled by anger, fear and hatred of each other. Former greatness afraid of it's own shadow. Nothing get's done because we have made it so that there are only 2 sides and they are required to hate each other. Democracy is compromises and the coming together of ideas and this is dead. And yes let's move on, but I did not bring it up

What a load of crap! There have been 2 sides since the beginning of time. Don't you watch Lost?!?!

Has anyone seen Pamela's new tattoo? And what does this have to do with Figo? The Suarez bashers are waiting in the wings. Someone moved GO's cheese.

not sure about the new tat or what it has to do with figo? but what would the bashers possible have to say about FCD's "pitbull squad"???? "i guess i was wrong" nah not here in NTX and especially on this site!

Whoa extra cheesy is not gone yet is he?

omega striker wrote:

finish1 wrote:

rip wrote:

go99 wrote:Not sure what happened here gab. We used to be a country of great people, ideas and deads. Now we glimpses of our former selves ruled by anger, fear and hatred of each other. Former greatness afraid of it's own shadow. Nothing get's done because we have made it so that there are only 2 sides and they are required to hate each other. Democracy is compromises and the coming together of ideas and this is dead. And yes let's move on, but I did not bring it up

What a load of crap! There have been 2 sides since the beginning of time. Don't you watch Lost?!?!

Has anyone seen Pamela's new tattoo? And what does this have to do with Figo? The Suarez bashers are waiting in the wings. Someone moved GO's cheese.

not sure about the new tat or what it has to do with figo? but what would the bashers possible have to say about FCD's "pitbull squad"???? "i guess i was wrong" nah not here in NTX and especially on this site!

Pit Bull Squad. Catchy.

go99 wrote:Whoa extra cheesy is not gone yet is he?

Plenty left to spread this season. Get out your grill.

Will Figo be Pamela's partner on Dancing With The Stars?

go99 wrote:What higher taxes? I keep hearing this and I am still wonder what higher taxes you are talking about? FYI you pay for the lazy asses healthcare anyway. Hospitals here cannot refuse to treat someone because they cannot pay. They go to the emergency room and are treated, there cost is passed on to everyone who does pay. This is why you pay $20 for the asprin etc. That's one of the problems, it is just cheaper to treat them before it becomes a major problem. We could always say "if you can't pay upfront the just go somewhere and die" This would also solve our healthcare problem. Coincidentally something very similar to this is occuring in China, a communist country. Many of the new modern hospitals are for profit hospitals and if you cannot pay upfront then you are not treated. So I will take a list of those higher taxes you are talking about, because I can't find them.

just wait. look at all the corporate tax laws that this current administration is allowing to quietly expire. It is all smoke and mirrors with the health care issue. Those are the laws that the common people do not hear about. Only business owners that are responsible for hiring millions of workers. This will equate to millions of dollars in taxable income for the small business owner.

arsenalfan wrote:

go99 wrote:What higher taxes? I keep hearing this and I am still wonder what higher taxes you are talking about? FYI you pay for the lazy asses healthcare anyway. Hospitals here cannot refuse to treat someone because they cannot pay. They go to the emergency room and are treated, there cost is passed on to everyone who does pay. This is why you pay $20 for the asprin etc. That's one of the problems, it is just cheaper to treat them before it becomes a major problem. We could always say "if you can't pay upfront the just go somewhere and die" This would also solve our healthcare problem. Coincidentally something very similar to this is occuring in China, a communist country. Many of the new modern hospitals are for profit hospitals and if you cannot pay upfront then you are not treated. So I will take a list of those higher taxes you are talking about, because I can't find them.

just wait. look at all the corporate tax laws that this current administration is allowing to quietly expire. It is all smoke and mirrors with the health care issue. Those are the laws that the common people do not hear about. Only business owners that are responsible for hiring millions of workers. This will equate to millions of dollars in taxable income for the small business owner.

Guys why don't you go to a forum that cares about taxes?
http://www.taxalmanac.org/index.php/Discussion_Forum_-_Tax_Questions
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=ab-taxes
http://thetaxforum.org/

Did anyone else notice that as the thread morphed into a tax discussion that the advertisements at the top of the page were related to taxes..

Wonder what would happen if I miss-spelled Virgina .

You'd see pictures of Democrats popping up......
Just kidding, relax already.

Yes all in good fun.
With the rain, nothing else to talk about. How many other threads can we try to discuss training techniques, how great a team is, how bad a team is, who the best coach is, who the worst parents are, who is going to beat whom, etc. It is the same ol' from the same ol'. After a little rant about politics, it explains why some posters think the way they do about soccer.

finish1 wrote:

Ibystander wrote:

CLUB31 wrote:That's what I said...I also don't think as many kids change teams as everyone thinks. Most coaches don't cut a kid that helped them make d1 or d2 at the u12 level and there are not that many spots avaliable. Exceptions to the rule, sure, but for the most part I would say if there are 15 boys on a current d1 team 13 or 14 will be on the team next year.

I like your optimism, but I would think that teams that squeak into d1 would really try to beef up their roster. Craft, being head and shoulders above everyone, might keep his 13 or 14, but I see others trying to shuffle.

That's 50-60 kids from the current D1 group doing the shuffle this Spring. That's a lot of movement.

Any idea how much movement there was last year in this age group? Every season and age group are different but this may give us an idea of both average tam turnover as well as which clubs tend to have the most.

Does anyone know where the most expected movement will take place (e.g. DT1... none, etc)?

Danke.
OC

As the teams hit the home-stretch, 6 D1 spots are locked-up. Along with Texans, Andro Red and Texans South; FC Dallas, Solar Red and Barcelona are now also mathematically assured of a top 10 finish and a bye into D1 for next season.

As for the last 4 spots, Comets and Gunners can each punch their D1 ticket with 1 more win. Fort Worth and Chivas also have their fates in their own hands and can make D1 with 2 wins. Club Classic, Solar and Madrid each need to win 2 and hope others in their way stumble.

None of the 7 still battling it out for the last 4 spots go head-to-head the rest of the way, so the magic number could be quite fluid. 30 points gets you in the door today. That number could end up being as low as 24 if all hell breaks loose (i.e. all 7 lose their last 2), though I doubt the number will be less than 27.

FC Dallas Gold and Azzurri are still mathematically alive for the 10th D1 spot, but it would take the most unlikely of scenarios to unfold for either to land there. They are all but guaranteed D2 spots, along with Texans Red, ASG Gold and FC Dallas South. FC Dallas Blue and FC Force are locked into D3 spots for next season.

Here are this week's most intriguing match-ups:

Saturday, 3/20
Texans South v Madrid
Texans v Solar Red
Solar v FC Dallas Gold
Andro Red v Club Classic
Azzurri v Gunners
Fort Worth v Texans Red
Barcelona v Chivas

Saturday, 3/20
Texans South v Madrid-DTS
Texans v Solar Red-???
Solar v FC Dallas Gold-TIE
Andro Red v Club Classic-Andro Red
Azzurri v Gunners-TIE
Fort Worth v Texans Red-FWFC
Barcelona v Chivas-TIE
I'm gonna predict FWFC and Chivas take the last 2 spots! the coolest thing is that 3 independent teams will continue their journey in D1 next season(thats if my predictions are correct of course)

CLUB31 wrote:Have a feeling DT(Connell) get FWFC and Barcelona beats Chivas. Along with a Solar(Crawford) win would make things interesting. CC would have to pull one off this weekend.

nah FWFC knows they got to win and DTR is not too much of a threat on scoring!
I can see Solar taking a draw with the late suprise FCD Gold but not a win
Chivas has a good track record against Barcelona and they know they got to win
and CCO has ZERO chance against Andro Red!!!!