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    plantit

    Posts: 687
    Join date: 2009-06-30
    Location: under the bleechers seeing more butts

    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  plantit on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:03 pm

    rantnrave wrote:
    plantit wrote:
    Axxman wrote:
    go99 wrote:
    Axxman wrote:I'm not saying that shouldn't be the case, but in the end, it's the coach who decides who he keeps and who he doesn't, for whatever the reasons.

    Actually I think it should be the club that decides who is on what team and who is the coach. Remember, the bye is an invite for the club to field a team in the spot. It is up to them to decide what team and coach they field.


    I completely disagree. FCD needs to decide who their top coach is, and let him decide who the players are based on a competitive process. I can see why we have different political views (which is ok). One decides who leads and who plays based on a majority decision, and the other decides who will lead and trusts his decisions based on competitiveness.


    You all fail to realize that, more than talent makes the decision. Unfortunantly alot of top players ( and their parents) are looking for scholarships. Put them all on one team and the coach doesn't get paid. Who's going to foot the bill for tournaments and travel? Ask Suarez what he's getting paid , Ask Castro what he got paid. If suarez can develope why is he seeking players mid season and looking at turning over 1/2 his roster? It,s ego. .. wants to say he has the top team when in fact it's been handed to him ... AGAIN.

    Not bashing the guy due to the fact, he is nice and good with his players. It's just the cycle repeating itself.

    Plantit,
    In all due respect to your statement: (see in bold), you are wrong. When we arrived at FCD; that Team was fairly set with 80% of the Players that were on the same Team since they were 8 years old. Another Boy plus my Son were new additions. Some were "handed" to Copa to be a strong contender.

    Actually I'm right . The 97 d-1 bye was handed to suarez do to the fact that figo ( with a better record) had not made the transition from the texans yet . Had he left a month sooner Suarez would have been somewhere around 15th in d-2. After he was promoted he was givin a few players from fcd south ( Chris hadens team ) 3rd ,4th d-1. The others went to Castro. Following that Boca 10th in d-1 changed to fcd central . When they couldn't pay their bills they left fc becoming tigres. That team was also picked on by suarez. Milking away their talent. Since then he has added a few, I would assume due to the fact he is in d-1 ( a position that was givin to him).

    Concerning 99's....... He . "Well I won't put words in his mouth". People on here have him changeing 1/2 his roster . Mabey fcd gives him another handout of players from the other teams or mabey some new talent just walks up? Who knows . The fact is other than his midseason pickups he has coached the roster to a fouth place finish, so why not continue? So when I use the term AGAIN it is not in refrence to just his 99's . If he is givin players which he was midseason then the term applies

    plantit

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    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  plantit on Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:31 pm

    Axxman wrote:LOL. A nice smooth Agavero tequila for your shot glass, but please sip, don't waste. And only drinking is allowed on the weekends, the week is for working and blogging.......

    Personal fav is Corralejo. Chilled !! no salt , no lime .. Straight up. So clean no hangover.
    BTW Jordan also makes a great olive oil.

    True10

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    Location: No really, where am I

    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  True10 on Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:13 pm

    plantit wrote:
    rantnrave wrote:
    plantit wrote:
    Axxman wrote:
    go99 wrote:
    Axxman wrote:I'm not saying that shouldn't be the case, but in the end, it's the coach who decides who he keeps and who he doesn't, for whatever the reasons.

    Actually I think it should be the club that decides who is on what team and who is the coach. Remember, the bye is an invite for the club to field a team in the spot. It is up to them to decide what team and coach they field.


    I completely disagree. FCD needs to decide who their top coach is, and let him decide who the players are based on a competitive process. I can see why we have different political views (which is ok). One decides who leads and who plays based on a majority decision, and the other decides who will lead and trusts his decisions based on competitiveness.


    You all fail to realize that, more than talent makes the decision. Unfortunantly alot of top players ( and their parents) are looking for scholarships. Put them all on one team and the coach doesn't get paid. Who's going to foot the bill for tournaments and travel? Ask Suarez what he's getting paid , Ask Castro what he got paid. If suarez can develope why is he seeking players mid season and looking at turning over 1/2 his roster? It,s ego. .. wants to say he has the top team when in fact it's been handed to him ... AGAIN.

    Not bashing the guy due to the fact, he is nice and good with his players. It's just the cycle repeating itself.

    Plantit,
    In all due respect to your statement: (see in bold), you are wrong. When we arrived at FCD; that Team was fairly set with 80% of the Players that were on the same Team since they were 8 years old. Another Boy plus my Son were new additions. Some were "handed" to Copa to be a strong contender.

    Actually I'm right . The 97 d-1 bye was handed to suarez do to the fact that figo ( with a better record) had not made the transition from the texans yet . Had he left a month sooner Suarez would have been somewhere around 15th in d-2. After he was promoted he was givin a few players from fcd south ( Chris hadens team ) 3rd ,4th d-1. The others went to Castro. Following that Boca 10th in d-1 changed to fcd central . When they couldn't pay their bills they left fc becoming tigres. That team was also picked on by suarez. Milking away their talent. Since then he has added a few, I would assume due to the fact he is in d-1 ( a position that was givin to him).

    Concerning 99's....... He . "Well I won't put words in his mouth". People on here have him changeing 1/2 his roster . Mabey fcd gives him another handout of players from the other teams or mabey some new talent just walks up? Who knows . The fact is other than his midseason pickups he has coached the roster to a fouth place finish, so why not continue? So when I use the term AGAIN it is not in refrence to just his 99's . If he is givin players which he was midseason then the term applies


    In reference to his 97s you missed some facts. He had the best 97 team until Castro, for the sake of not offending, recieved several of Suarez's best players prior to QT. If you take that into consideration his original 97 team was definitely a D1 team. So I guess Suarez got what he deserved a D1 team to coach.

    plantit

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    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  plantit on Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:17 pm

    True10 wrote:
    plantit wrote:
    rantnrave wrote:
    plantit wrote:
    Axxman wrote:
    go99 wrote:
    Axxman wrote:I'm not saying that shouldn't be the case, but in the end, it's the coach who decides who he keeps and who he doesn't, for whatever the reasons.

    Actually I think it should be the club that decides who is on what team and who is the coach. Remember, the bye is an invite for the club to field a team in the spot. It is up to them to decide what team and coach they field.


    I completely disagree. FCD needs to decide who their top coach is, and let him decide who the players are based on a competitive process. I can see why we have different political views (which is ok). One decides who leads and who plays based on a majority decision, and the other decides who will lead and trusts his decisions based on competitiveness.


    You all fail to realize that, more than talent makes the decision. Unfortunantly alot of top players ( and their parents) are looking for scholarships. Put them all on one team and the coach doesn't get paid. Who's going to foot the bill for tournaments and travel? Ask Suarez what he's getting paid , Ask Castro what he got paid. If suarez can develope why is he seeking players mid season and looking at turning over 1/2 his roster? It,s ego. .. wants to say he has the top team when in fact it's been handed to him ... AGAIN.

    Not bashing the guy due to the fact, he is nice and good with his players. It's just the cycle repeating itself.

    Plantit,
    In all due respect to your statement: (see in bold), you are wrong. When we arrived at FCD; that Team was fairly set with 80% of the Players that were on the same Team since they were 8 years old. Another Boy plus my Son were new additions. Some were "handed" to Copa to be a strong contender.

    Actually I'm right . The 97 d-1 bye was handed to suarez do to the fact that figo ( with a better record) had not made the transition from the texans yet . Had he left a month sooner Suarez would have been somewhere around 15th in d-2. After he was promoted he was givin a few players from fcd south ( Chris hadens team ) 3rd ,4th d-1. The others went to Castro. Following that Boca 10th in d-1 changed to fcd central . When they couldn't pay their bills they left fc becoming tigres. That team was also picked on by suarez. Milking away their talent. Since then he has added a few, I would assume due to the fact he is in d-1 ( a position that was givin to him).

    Concerning 99's....... He . "Well I won't put words in his mouth". People on here have him changeing 1/2 his roster . Mabey fcd gives him another handout of players from the other teams or mabey some new talent just walks up? Who knows . The fact is other than his midseason pickups he has coached the roster to a fouth place finish, so why not continue? So when I use the term AGAIN it is not in refrence to just his 99's . If he is givin players which he was midseason then the term applies


    In reference to his 97s you missed some facts. He had the best 97 team until Castro, for the sake of not offending, recieved several of Suarez's best players prior to QT. If you take that into consideration his original 97 team was definitely a D1 team. So I guess Suarez got what he deserved a D1 team to coach.


    Won't argue with that. If it is as you say , wouldn't suprise me . Castro was the talent milking king. And a damn good cone straightner

    Joker

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    Join date: 2009-12-19

    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  Joker on Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:52 am

    What are the Suarez-"Bashers" going to say if he beats Craft?

    rantnrave

    Posts: 123
    Join date: 2009-10-02

    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  rantnrave on Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:09 am

    plantit wrote:
    rantnrave wrote:
    plantit wrote:
    Axxman wrote:
    go99 wrote:
    Axxman wrote:I'm not saying that shouldn't be the case, but in the end, it's the coach who decides who he keeps and who he doesn't, for whatever the reasons.

    Actually I think it should be the club that decides who is on what team and who is the coach. Remember, the bye is an invite for the club to field a team in the spot. It is up to them to decide what team and coach they field.


    I completely disagree. FCD needs to decide who their top coach is, and let him decide who the players are based on a competitive process. I can see why we have different political views (which is ok). One decides who leads and who plays based on a majority decision, and the other decides who will lead and trusts his decisions based on competitiveness.


    You all fail to realize that, more than talent makes the decision. Unfortunantly alot of top players ( and their parents) are looking for scholarships. Put them all on one team and the coach doesn't get paid. Who's going to foot the bill for tournaments and travel? Ask Suarez what he's getting paid , Ask Castro what he got paid. If suarez can develope why is he seeking players mid season and looking at turning over 1/2 his roster? It,s ego. .. wants to say he has the top team when in fact it's been handed to him ... AGAIN.

    Not bashing the guy due to the fact, he is nice and good with his players. It's just the cycle repeating itself.

    Plantit,
    In all due respect to your statement: (see in bold), you are wrong. When we arrived at FCD; that Team was fairly set with 80% of the Players that were on the same Team since they were 8 years old. Another Boy plus my Son were new additions. Some were "handed" to Copa to be a strong contender.

    Actually I'm right . The 97 d-1 bye was handed to suarez do to the fact that figo ( with a better record) had not made the transition from the texans yet . Had he left a month sooner Suarez would have been somewhere around 15th in d-2. After he was promoted he was givin a few players from fcd south ( Chris hadens team ) 3rd ,4th d-1. The others went to Castro. Following that Boca 10th in d-1 changed to fcd central . When they couldn't pay their bills they left fc becoming tigres. That team was also picked on by suarez. Milking away their talent. Since then he has added a few, I would assume due to the fact he is in d-1 ( a position that was givin to him).

    Concerning 99's....... He . "Well I won't put words in his mouth". People on here have him changeing 1/2 his roster . Mabey fcd gives him another handout of players from the other teams or mabey some new talent just walks up? Who knows . The fact is other than his midseason pickups he has coached the roster to a fouth place finish, so why not continue? So when I use the term AGAIN it is not in refrence to just his 99's . If he is givin players which he was midseason then the term applies

    I thought you were referring to just the '99s; my apologies. I can't really speak to the '97s, as I am not too familiar with their scenario.

    go99

    Posts: 2013
    Join date: 2009-07-09
    Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.

    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  go99 on Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:40 am

    Actually I don't think there was much suarez bashing going on. Plantit's view on being handed players will not change with a win. At best in will confirm it. DT cheesy has been on a slide lately and not really coming to play. They are ripe for the pickings and I know the suarez team will go hard for the entire game. Craft lets off and they will lose.

    go99

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    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  go99 on Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:22 pm

    There appears to be some misunderstanding from a post
    "Axxman wrote:
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
    You are comparing proven apples to apple seeds.
    Lets put it in terms we can understand locally. What would you rather have; Jerry Jones or Al Davis (The Club) making the decisions and going through dozens of coaches and players until he finds something that works a couple times in a decade or two, or a Jimmy Johnson or a Bill Belichick that gives you results consistantly after getting their chance to implement their players and system?</BLOCKQUOTE>
    </BLOCKQUOTE>
    What? That's a professional team who's sole goal is to win. We are talking about a youth club with the stated purpose of identifying and developing talent. 2 totally different things axx. If there goal is to win then yes, leave it to the coach and expect to see the results. If the coach pics the top team and does not finish in the top 2 then fire him and get a coach who will. Believe me Bill and jimmy are held to a standard of producing results. Top 2 in size and funding should get you a top 2 result in every age bracket every year if it is all about wins."

    So there you have it. I have not said that I think Suarez should lose his job. I don't think that is the system we are in. I think Suarez is a young guy who is very enthusiastic about youth soccer. I believe he is one coach who is actually doing it out of the love for the youth game not the money. I have not agreed with everything he has done. I stand by the shortchanging of copa/blue but would have probably done the same thing to improve the team I was keeping at the expense of the one I was not. I don't think he should lose his job and think he can be an important part of the FCD system. I don't know if he will be replaced as the coach of the top team or not and really could care less either way. If it were my choice I would replace him as the top coach in the 99 group with a more experienced coach with no personal connection to the kids or parents. It should always be just about soccer. I do not think he is at the level of Marcio, hayden or some of the other top coaches in the area but he is much younger and I think he can be.
    I have no need to be liked or accepted, but would rather be disliked for things I actually said or believe.
    Hope that clears everything up.

    Texas101

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    Re: 99 Saturday Games

    Post  Texas101 on Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:15 pm

    Does anyone have any scores to post?

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