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Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?

go99- Posts: 2013
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
- Post n°91
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
don't think it matter does it? Recruiting is not illegal is it? Jesuit may not do it but I do know a family whos daughter was recruited from her club team for soccer and offered a scholorship to a very expensive girls private school.

Azzurri11- Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-04-06
- Post n°92
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
I never said it was illegal, or even wrong. I simply said Jesuit does not recruit athletes, because they don't.

Head out of the Sand- Posts: 4
Join date: 2009-09-15
- Post n°93
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
irish86 wrote:A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position. (ouch, that will leave a mark)
Coach, my point was not that the Jesuit players are saints, but that the Jesuit haters are anything but....Cursing and slandering a bunch of players is a reflection of the folks spewing the hate. The fact that the Jesuit players and fans don't punch them in the nose is also a credit to them.
And I still don't see your name anywhere. My name is David Finn and I'll give you very good directions to my office if you care to visit.
And if you care to respond you win and will get the last word. I'm getting back to rooting for the Jesuit coach, team, parents, and school.
Don't give them too much credit...I was a neutral spectator at the Jesuit v El Paso Bel Air game last weekend and heard more than enough racial slurs coming from the mouths of the Jesuit parents.

Head out of the Sand- Posts: 4
Join date: 2009-09-15
- Post n°94
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
CoachByb wrote:DropAndSwitch wrote:San Antonio Alamo Heights allows tuition students. I don't know exactly how that works if they are a public school, but I knew a couple of friends who played soccer there and lived out of district. The school wasn't paying their tuition or anything but I could definitely see how that would be an advantage for a private school. If a kid is in a bad district and has the means to attend a private school with a good program, that team would naturally benefit from a situation like that.
Actually, several districts allow open enrollment. Jesuit's regional final opponent is a good example. Socorro ISD allows students to transfer schools based on certain curriculum decisions not based on attendance boundaries. Wichita Falls ISD does this. Brownsville allows this for Hidalgo College Prep. What do these have in common? Final four appearances in the last few years. Coincidentally, many of the best soccer players happen to choose to go to the school that is winning at the time.
Hidalgo was brought in front of the UIL last fall for recruiting violations. Bel Air has actually been in front of the UIL, and the complaining coach showed how the player had misspelled "Bel Air" on the application, questioning what the students true motivation for attending that school would be.
Open enrollment at various high schools across the state is very similar to what the Jesuits have.
By the way, I'm predicting an All-Catholic final.
So you're saying you have to be Catholic to go to Jesuit?

Azzurri11- Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-04-06
- Post n°95
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
I think you know what he meant.
All Catholic schools, as in, both Jesuit schools in the tourney are Catholic schools, which accept non-catholics students.
All Catholic schools, as in, both Jesuit schools in the tourney are Catholic schools, which accept non-catholics students.

clueless- Posts: 445
Join date: 2009-08-06
- Post n°96
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
Head out of the Sand wrote:irish86 wrote:A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position. (ouch, that will leave a mark)
Coach, my point was not that the Jesuit players are saints, but that the Jesuit haters are anything but....Cursing and slandering a bunch of players is a reflection of the folks spewing the hate. The fact that the Jesuit players and fans don't punch them in the nose is also a credit to them.
And I still don't see your name anywhere. My name is David Finn and I'll give you very good directions to my office if you care to visit.
And if you care to respond you win and will get the last word. I'm getting back to rooting for the Jesuit coach, team, parents, and school.
Don't give them too much credit...I was a neutral spectator at the Jesuit v El Paso Bel Air game last weekend and heard more than enough racial slurs coming from the mouths of the Jesuit parents.
I'm fairly certain you wouldn't have a broad enough brush to paint high school fans (parents and students) as being quiet and well-behaved. I do not have a student in high school, attend several games, and am kind of shocked at the fan's behavior when compared to classic league games.
I did sit with Jesuit in the Plano/Jesuit game - it was pretty humorous to hear the complaints about calls, but I didn't hear anything I haven't from any other fans from other schools (typical calls for cards and 'call them both ways'...).

Prism- Posts: 59
Join date: 2009-07-07
- Post n°97
Dallas Jesuit up 2-0 at half
Over Austin Westlake...Strake Jesuit won their game 3-2.

Prism- Posts: 59
Join date: 2009-07-07
Dallas Jesuit vs. Strake Jesuit...Saturday at 1:00!!

Aswan- Posts: 113
Join date: 2009-07-14
Location: Apparently Lost
- Post n°100
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
The obvious explanation for the results in both football and soccer is demographic. Soccer is most successful in the affluent communities where families can afford to participate in club soccer competition. Jesuit, though not geographically defined, comports with this demographic. Conversely, football venues are provided exclusively by the school system and, hence, football is more egalitarian and diversified amongst the masses. On close inspection and analysis you will find that the assertions of nefarious behavior made against the Jesuits is naught but a well orchestrated campaign of disinformation coordinated by the illuminati, whose historic hatred of the true church is well documented.
Last edited by Aswan on Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:28 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : the vexing bane of typo)

irish86- Posts: 118
Join date: 2009-08-23
- Post n°101
Dallas Jesuit v. Stake Jesuit
just like in the old TCIL days! These two teams probably met 20 times in the TCIL finals over the past 30 years in the pre-UIL days.
Go Jesuit(s)!
PS: So whatever happened to the stripping nun? Ha
Go Jesuit(s)!
PS: So whatever happened to the stripping nun? Ha

THE NEEDLE- Posts: 219
Join date: 2009-08-20
Location: Under skin
- Post n°102
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
irish86 wrote:just like in the old TCIL days! These two teams probably met 20 times in the TCIL finals over the past 30 years in the pre-UIL days.
Go Jesuit(s)!![]()
PS: So whatever happened to the stripping nun? Ha
She is saving herself for a mission trip down to Georgetown. She will be participating in the 5A boys championship trophy presentation tomorrow.

irish86- Posts: 118
Join date: 2009-08-23
- Post n°103
The Nuns
Nice. Please remind the Sisters of Perpetual Martyrdom that charity begins at home, as in Dallas. If the Dallas Jesuit team does not win the championship I will send you and yours to the restaurant of your choice on the house. I'm sure you'd reciprocate, right? If not, you can still call me on my offer. I won't let you down.
David
David

irish86- Posts: 118
Join date: 2009-08-23
- Post n°104
Rex Rayfield
And lest I forget to make a specific prediction, Dallas Jesuit's Rex Rayfield will score the winning goal. He got two yesterday, and his dad was a machine when he played for Charlie many moons ago...That kid, and the team, are on a mission, and I think Rex Sr. was on the Dallas Jesuit team that beat Strake 3 or 4 years in a row

gpoo- Posts: 114
Join date: 2010-02-26
- Post n°105
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
irish86 wrote:Nice. Please remind the Sisters of Perpetual Martyrdom that charity begins at home, as in Dallas. If the Dallas Jesuit team does not win the championship I will send you and yours to the restaurant of your choice on the house. I'm sure you'd reciprocate, right? If not, you can still call me on my offer. I won't let you down.
David
I'm yours...and so what is a reciprocate??
Go Jesuits!!

finish1- Posts: 1427
Join date: 2009-12-03
Location: In the net
- Post n°106
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
irish86 wrote:And lest I forget to make a specific prediction, Dallas Jesuit's Rex Rayfield will score the winning goal. He got two yesterday, and his dad was a machine when he played for Charlie many moons ago...That kid, and the team, are on a mission, and I think Rex Sr. was on the Dallas Jesuit team that beat Strake 3 or 4 years in a row
My prediction is that Jesuit wins the UIL Championship today for the first time. Why? See clip...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZSqd5Y8nA&feature=related

pwip- Posts: 45
Join date: 2009-06-21
- Post n°107
online
http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/pages/streaming

Aswan- Posts: 113
Join date: 2009-07-14
Location: Apparently Lost
- Post n°108
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
To think that we have had centuries of dialectic on divine dispensation when all we had to do was resolve the issue with a soccer game. Truly, we are living in a marvelous time. Your views: does the resurgence of the church mark the beginning of the end of times or the beginning of a new historical epoch.

irish86- Posts: 118
Join date: 2009-08-23
- Post n°109
Dallas Jesuit wins State in Shootout!
Congratulations !

happyfeet- Posts: 396
Join date: 2009-07-06
- Post n°110
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
Aswan wrote:To think that we have had centuries of dialectic on divine dispensation when all we had to do was resolve the issue with a soccer game. Truly, we are living in a marvelous time. Your views: does the resurgence of the church mark the beginning of the end of times or the beginning of a new historical epoch.
I love sarcasm!

coachdom- Posts: 476
Join date: 2009-06-26
- Post n°111
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
Proud alum, right here

wbanul- Posts: 58
Join date: 2009-09-22
- Post n°112
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
finish1 wrote:irish86 wrote:And lest I forget to make a specific prediction, Dallas Jesuit's Rex Rayfield will score the winning goal. He got two yesterday, and his dad was a machine when he played for Charlie many moons ago...That kid, and the team, are on a mission, and I think Rex Sr. was on the Dallas Jesuit team that beat Strake 3 or 4 years in a row
My prediction is that Jesuit wins the UIL Championship today for the first time. Why? See clip...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZSqd5Y8nA&feature=related


old soccer dad- Posts: 38
Join date: 2010-02-25
- Post n°113
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
Interesting move by Jesuit Strake to put a defender in the goal for the shootout.
I will say Jesuit Dallas earned the championship. They played alot of really good teams in Region I and came out on top.
I will say Jesuit Dallas earned the championship. They played alot of really good teams in Region I and came out on top.

soccergrinder- Posts: 188
Join date: 2010-04-10
- Post n°114
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
Actually he is a keeper playing on the field. He got a soccer scholarship as a keeper to Notre Dame.
old soccer dad wrote:Interesting move by Jesuit Strake to put a defender in the goal for the shootout.
I will say Jesuit Dallas earned the championship. They played alot of really good teams in Region I and came out on top.

twotone- Posts: 87
Join date: 2009-07-28
Age: 34
Location: Coppell
- Post n°115
Re: Do the Jesuits belong in the UIL?
that defender actually is the starting keeper for the Dynamo Development Academy team. he, obviously, plays in the field for Strake and is a decent defender. so the switch is not a confusing as it seems.

