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Axxman- Posts: 982
Join date: 2009-07-09
All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.

Joker- Posts: 60
Join date: 2009-12-19
Enough of the Andro Red “beat-downs”, can anyone fill us in on the FCD falling out in this tournament? I heard that their performance was for a lack of better words “disappointing”. What is going on over there that they can’t get this “Elite” group to play together and produce favorable results?

go99- Posts: 2013
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
It was just the regular suarez team, but I heard there was some good play during the week. At any rate, the premier team has not been formed and was not in the tournament

CLUB31- Posts: 452
Join date: 2009-07-21
They actually had similar results they had during the year. Won their bracket, then beat Comets 3-1 and lost to DTS 3-0. Outcome was not suprising. Only teams that can play with DTS are Andro(red) and the top Texan team. Figure the top FCD team will stay right behind that top three group next year.

Axxman- Posts: 982
Join date: 2009-07-09
I think we all have to wait two or three weeks before we know what these teams look like.
Andro Red now has a new coach, who was suppose to take over the Texan top team. Will he have a following? All the latest hype with Andromeda may have others looking in? It will certainly affect the existing make-up of the team and perhaps some will look out?
Top Texan team has a new coach and that may have an effect, especially on what kids leave, stay, and or what new talent they get in. Being part of the Texans alone is always a draw.
FCD will be interesting to say the least. New coach and kids may scatter (a few already have). Can they bring in the talent to make a run?
Andro Red now has a new coach, who was suppose to take over the Texan top team. Will he have a following? All the latest hype with Andromeda may have others looking in? It will certainly affect the existing make-up of the team and perhaps some will look out?
Top Texan team has a new coach and that may have an effect, especially on what kids leave, stay, and or what new talent they get in. Being part of the Texans alone is always a draw.
FCD will be interesting to say the least. New coach and kids may scatter (a few already have). Can they bring in the talent to make a run?

Speedy Gonzales- Posts: 286
Join date: 2009-07-24
go99 wrote:It was just the regular suarez team, but I heard there was some good play during the week. At any rate, the premier team has not been formed and was not in the tournament
Isn't that the only way they could play in the tournament is with their regular roster (plus any allowable guest players)? The "elite" or "premier" team can't be formed and compete until tryouts and contract signing, correct?

go99- Posts: 2013
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
CLUB31 wrote:They actually had similar results they had during the year. Won their bracket, then beat Comets 3-1 and lost to DTS 3-0. Outcome was not suprising. Only teams that can play with DTS are Andro(red) and the top Texan team. Figure the top FCD team will stay right behind that top three group next year.
Whoa

go99- Posts: 2013
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
Speedy Gonzales wrote:go99 wrote:It was just the regular suarez team, but I heard there was some good play during the week. At any rate, the premier team has not been formed and was not in the tournament
Isn't that the only way they could play in the tournament is with their regular roster (plus any allowable guest players)? The "elite" or "premier" team can't be formed and compete until tryouts and contract signing, correct?
Guess they could have filled up the allowable guest player spots, but they chose not too.

Axxman- Posts: 982
Join date: 2009-07-09
go99 wrote:CLUB31 wrote:They actually had similar results they had during the year. Won their bracket, then beat Comets 3-1 and lost to DTS 3-0. Outcome was not suprising. Only teams that can play with DTS are Andro(red) and the top Texan team. Figure the top FCD team will stay right behind that top three group next year.
Whoasimilar results during the season. They won D2 and largely based on the fact that FCD central finished the season with a coaching change and the loss of players. Without that they would have finished 2nd. They ended up in D2 based on the fact they couldn't EVEN manage to beat FCD blue. Their performance in this tourney is hardly indicative if last seasons performance. So now the question is if this is par for the course then will the wizards walk all over D2 and rise into D1 where there rightfully belong?
I believe he was referring to Suarez.

Speedy Gonzales- Posts: 286
Join date: 2009-07-24
go99 wrote:Speedy Gonzales wrote:go99 wrote:It was just the regular suarez team, but I heard there was some good play during the week. At any rate, the premier team has not been formed and was not in the tournament
Isn't that the only way they could play in the tournament is with their regular roster (plus any allowable guest players)? The "elite" or "premier" team can't be formed and compete until tryouts and contract signing, correct?
Guess they could have filled up the allowable guest player spots, but they chose not too.
You've apparently been doing this a lot longer than me so maybe I'm just dumb but, assuming they had a 16 man roster to begin with, the most guest players they could have added would have been 4 since the rosters were capped at 20 I believe for this tournament. I don't believe a true super team would only add 4 players to the existing core of Suarez's team. There are a lot more holes than that to truly be able to compete with Texans, Andro and Texans South.

go99- Posts: 2013
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
Axxman wrote:go99 wrote:CLUB31 wrote:They actually had similar results they had during the year. Won their bracket, then beat Comets 3-1 and lost to DTS 3-0. Outcome was not suprising. Only teams that can play with DTS are Andro(red) and the top Texan team. Figure the top FCD team will stay right behind that top three group next year.
Whoasimilar results during the season. They won D2 and largely based on the fact that FCD central finished the season with a coaching change and the loss of players. Without that they would have finished 2nd. They ended up in D2 based on the fact they couldn't EVEN manage to beat FCD blue. Their performance in this tourney is hardly indicative if last seasons performance. So now the question is if this is par for the course then will the wizards walk all over D2 and rise into D1 where there rightfully belong?
I believe he was referring to Suarez.
I believe you are right

go99- Posts: 2013
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
[quote="Speedy Gonzales"]
You've apparently been doing this a lot longer than me so maybe I'm just dumb but, assuming they had a 16 man roster to begin with, the most guest players they could have added would have been 4 since the rosters were capped at 20 I believe for this tournament. I don't believe a true super team would only add 4 players to the existing core of Suarez's team. There are a lot more holes than that to truly be able to compete with Texans, Andro and Texans South.[/quote
they didn't carry 16 and had already moved a few players. It was apparently a very thin roster. I hope they have a bigger goal than just trying to compete with those teams. I think they will put together a premier team that will do well but experience some growing pains and hopefully put out a better soccer player.
go99 wrote:Speedy Gonzales wrote:go99 wrote:It was just the regular suarez team, but I heard there was some good play during the week. At any rate, the premier team has not been formed and was not in the tournament
Isn't that the only way they could play in the tournament is with their regular roster (plus any allowable guest players)? The "elite" or "premier" team can't be formed and compete until tryouts and contract signing, correct?
Guess they could have filled up the allowable guest player spots, but they chose not too.
You've apparently been doing this a lot longer than me so maybe I'm just dumb but, assuming they had a 16 man roster to begin with, the most guest players they could have added would have been 4 since the rosters were capped at 20 I believe for this tournament. I don't believe a true super team would only add 4 players to the existing core of Suarez's team. There are a lot more holes than that to truly be able to compete with Texans, Andro and Texans South.[/quote
they didn't carry 16 and had already moved a few players. It was apparently a very thin roster. I hope they have a bigger goal than just trying to compete with those teams. I think they will put together a premier team that will do well but experience some growing pains and hopefully put out a better soccer player.

omega striker- Posts: 2075
Join date: 2009-07-02
[quote="go99"]
yea they better put a premier squad together or they will be falling out of D1!!!!Speedy Gonzales wrote:go99 wrote:Speedy Gonzales wrote:go99 wrote:It was just the regular suarez team, but I heard there was some good play during the week. At any rate, the premier team has not been formed and was not in the tournament
Isn't that the only way they could play in the tournament is with their regular roster (plus any allowable guest players)? The "elite" or "premier" team can't be formed and compete until tryouts and contract signing, correct?
Guess they could have filled up the allowable guest player spots, but they chose not too.
You've apparently been doing this a lot longer than me so maybe I'm just dumb but, assuming they had a 16 man roster to begin with, the most guest players they could have added would have been 4 since the rosters were capped at 20 I believe for this tournament. I don't believe a true super team would only add 4 players to the existing core of Suarez's team. There are a lot more holes than that to truly be able to compete with Texans, Andro and Texans South.[/quote
they didn't carry 16 and had already moved a few players. It was apparently a very thin roster. I hope they have a bigger goal than just trying to compete with those teams. I think they will put together a premier team that will do well but experience some growing pains and hopefully put out a better soccer player.

omega striker- Posts: 2075
Join date: 2009-07-02
uh i think Solar Red when their on "their" game can beat anybody out there!CLUB31 wrote:They actually had similar results they had during the year. Won their bracket, then beat Comets 3-1 and lost to DTS 3-0. Outcome was not suprising. Only teams that can play with DTS are Andro(red) and the top Texan team. Figure the top FCD team will stay right behind that top three group next year.

go99- Posts: 2013
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
[quote="omega striker"]
Actually I think the Suarez team could stay in D1 as it is. The goals of the club are just bigger than 1 team or 1 group of kids.
go99 wrote:yea they better put a premier squad together or they will be falling out of D1!!!!Speedy Gonzales wrote:go99 wrote:Speedy Gonzales wrote:go99 wrote:It was just the regular suarez team, but I heard there was some good play during the week. At any rate, the premier team has not been formed and was not in the tournament
Isn't that the only way they could play in the tournament is with their regular roster (plus any allowable guest players)? The "elite" or "premier" team can't be formed and compete until tryouts and contract signing, correct?
Guess they could have filled up the allowable guest player spots, but they chose not too.
You've apparently been doing this a lot longer than me so maybe I'm just dumb but, assuming they had a 16 man roster to begin with, the most guest players they could have added would have been 4 since the rosters were capped at 20 I believe for this tournament. I don't believe a true super team would only add 4 players to the existing core of Suarez's team. There are a lot more holes than that to truly be able to compete with Texans, Andro and Texans South.[/quote
they didn't carry 16 and had already moved a few players. It was apparently a very thin roster. I hope they have a bigger goal than just trying to compete with those teams. I think they will put together a premier team that will do well but experience some growing pains and hopefully put out a better soccer player.
Actually I think the Suarez team could stay in D1 as it is. The goals of the club are just bigger than 1 team or 1 group of kids.

finish1- Posts: 1427
Join date: 2009-12-03
Location: In the net
Speedy Gonzales wrote:Axxman wrote:Speedy Gonzales wrote:Axxman wrote:Well the Andro team did not play well this weekend and there are probably good reasons for it. Not having our coach against the Wizards did not help, but such is life. We outplayed that team and had a couple easy ones that should have made it 2 or 3 to 0 but the ball was not cooperating. That Wizards team is dirty from top to bottom. Even at the end their coaches got caught red handed trying to sneak a player in to kick penalties. I guess they are beyond rules and will do anything to win. I for one hope DTS hands it to them today in a big way.
It's been a fun year and other than the heat, it was a fun way to end it. Tomorrow there are new beginnings, good luck to all and hopefully it works out for you. We'll see you all out and about.
"The ball was not cooperating"?????????Have you ever studied Newton's laws--for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. So, according to Newton, the reactions of the ball were the direct results of your bbs' actions.
As far as dirty play, I can't say since I wasn't there. Good luck next season.
I'm impressed, didn't know they taught you guys anything about Newton in law school......
I learned lots of things in places other than law school. The Newton thing was just this past year when my bb was in 5th grade and I had to help him study for his science test. You're never too old to learn something new. The "ball . . . not cooperating" thing just struck me as comical. Kind of like the thread about soccer players being "unlucky"--when the ball shanks off his foot is your bb really unlucky or just unskilled? Is it really an uncooperative ball or just an unskilled shooter??
To label a play on the ball as unlucky, a person must have knowledge of two things: First, was the attempt unsuccessful? In this case, yes. Second: Did the player have a better choice? From what I read, we don't know. Under those guidelines, luck cannot be quantified.
Regarding the shooter being unskilled, I doubt that's true. We know the play was unsuccessful, but the player is skilled.
It is possible the player made the best choice with the options he had available, but just missed the shot.
That's soccer.

Ibystander- Posts: 766
Join date: 2009-08-03
The shooter wasn't unskilled, nor the ball uncooperative. Maybe he was just a bit clumsy


plantit- Posts: 687
Join date: 2009-06-30
Location: under the bleechers seeing more butts
Axxman wrote:All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
Props ?? maybe?? What I saw was ugly .. Kick it in the air . Kick it right. Have Manute Bol win it and shoot. 1 trick pony , a nickle and ya got a cup of " Jack Squat "

Speedy Gonzales- Posts: 286
Join date: 2009-07-24
finish1 wrote:
To label a play on the ball as unlucky, a person must have knowledge of two things: First, was the attempt unsuccessful? In this case, yes. Second: Did the player have a better choice? From what I read, we don't know. Under those guidelines, luck cannot be quantified.
Regarding the shooter being unskilled, I doubt that's true. We know the play was unsuccessful, but the player is skilled.
It is possible the player made the best choice with the options he had available, but just missed the shot.
That's soccer.
Man, I suck at this humor thing. I don't know the kid, didn't see the game, so can't possibly say whether the kid was skilled or unskilled. I was just trying to add a little humor and give Axx a hard time. I'll steer clear of attempts to poke fun in the future and will be the buttoned up, starched collar, stick-in-the mud everyone thinks lawyers should be. I thought I had already explained that I was trying to be funny. I guess I'll have to add you to the group of posters like "Why Me" who need to receive a warning when I try to be funny. Lighten up.

indyfc- Posts: 347
Join date: 2009-08-25
plantit wrote:Axxman wrote:All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
Props ?? maybe?? What I saw was ugly .. Kick it in the air . Kick it right. Have Manute Bol win it and shoot. 1 trick pony , a nickle and ya got a cup of " Jack Squat "
What's up with the direct insult of that 11 year old, or do you think that what you said is an appropriote description of an African American boy who happens to be tall? Do you think he or his father would think that is funny? Even for you that's a new low. I know you are an equal opportunity dis-er, but I don't recall seeing a post of yours where you demean an 11 year old directly.
We all talk a lot bs on here, but it's one thing to go after a coach or a team in general, but for an adult to single out and make fun of an 11 year old because of the way he looks is out of bounds.
Hopefully that comment doesn't represent what your true beliefs are....

finish1- Posts: 1427
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The game was an excellent showcase for NTX soccer. Follow the bouncing ball until someone makes an fast break to the net. The coaches play it. The parents applaude it. I got tired of watching it.

go99- Posts: 2013
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Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
indyfc wrote:plantit wrote:Axxman wrote:All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
Props ?? maybe?? What I saw was ugly .. Kick it in the air . Kick it right. Have Manute Bol win it and shoot. 1 trick pony , a nickle and ya got a cup of " Jack Squat "
What's up with the direct insult of that 11 year old, or do you think that what you said is an appropriote description of an African American boy who happens to be tall? Do you think he or his father would think that is funny? Even for you that's a new low. I know you are an equal opportunity dis-er, but I don't recall seeing a post of yours where you demean an 11 year old directly.
We all talk a lot bs on here, but it's one thing to go after a coach or a team in general, but for an adult to single out and make fun of an 11 year old because of the way he looks is out of bounds.
Hopefully that comment doesn't represent what your true beliefs are....
Was the kid tall and skinny?

Axxman- Posts: 982
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indyfc wrote:plantit wrote:Axxman wrote:All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
Props ?? maybe?? What I saw was ugly .. Kick it in the air . Kick it right. Have Manute Bol win it and shoot. 1 trick pony , a nickle and ya got a cup of " Jack Squat "
What's up with the direct insult of that 11 year old, or do you think that what you said is an appropriote description of an African American boy who happens to be tall? Do you think he or his father would think that is funny? Even for you that's a new low. I know you are an equal opportunity dis-er, but I don't recall seeing a post of yours where you demean an 11 year old directly.
We all talk a lot bs on here, but it's one thing to go after a coach or a team in general, but for an adult to single out and make fun of an 11 year old because of the way he looks is out of bounds.
Hopefully that comment doesn't represent what your true beliefs are....
I don't see any insults anywhere. It's all in how you read it and take it, and apparently you are looking for something more than was obviously meant. I thought it was a perfect reference, that's all.
And besides, Plantit knows Manute personally and had his feelings in mind too when typing the post.
Relax.

cntmcc2- Posts: 1
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indyfc wrote:plantit wrote:Axxman wrote:All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
Props ?? maybe?? What I saw was ugly .. Kick it in the air . Kick it right. Have Manute Bol win it and shoot. 1 trick pony , a nickle and ya got a cup of " Jack Squat "
What's up with the direct insult of that 11 year old, or do you think that what you said is an appropriote description of an African American boy who happens to be tall? Do you think he or his father would think that is funny? Even for you that's a new low. I know you are an equal opportunity dis-er, but I don't recall seeing a post of yours where you demean an 11 year old directly.
We all talk a lot bs o'n here, but it's one thing to go after a coach or a team in general, but for an adult to single out and make fun of an 11 year old because of the way he looks is out of bounds.
Hopefully that comment doesn't represent what your true beliefs are....
As the parent of the 11 yr old you're referring to, I take offense to any term other than those which are representative of who he is... Sarcasm.. underlying insults should not be directed towards any child..... Ignorance on your part is not an excuse... He's a hard working kid who's working hard to get better.... which you will see the next time you see him play. He's a member of the Wizard's team and works just as hard as any 11yr old in the classic league....
I'm willing to answer any questions you have regarding my son....
Regards...

plantit- Posts: 687
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cntmcc2 wrote:indyfc wrote:plantit wrote:Axxman wrote:All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
Props ?? maybe?? What I saw was ugly .. Kick it in the air . Kick it right. Have Manute Bol win it and shoot. 1 trick pony , a nickle and ya got a cup of " Jack Squat "
What's up with the direct insult of that 11 year old, or do you think that what you said is an appropriote description of an African American boy who happens to be tall? Do you think he or his father would think that is funny? Even for you that's a new low. I know you are an equal opportunity dis-er, but I don't recall seeing a post of yours where you demean an 11 year old directly.
We all talk a lot bs o'n here, but it's one thing to go after a coach or a team in general, but for an adult to single out and make fun of an 11 year old because of the way he looks is out of bounds.
Hopefully that comment doesn't represent what your true beliefs are....
As the parent of the 11 yr old you're referring to, I take offense to any term other than those which are representative of who he is... Sarcasm.. underlying insults should not be directed towards any child..... Ignorance on your part is not an excuse... He's a hard working kid who's working hard to get better.... which you will see the next time you see him play. He's a member of the Wizard's team and works just as hard as any 11yr old in the classic league....
I'm willing to answer any questions you have regarding my son....
Regards...
No insult was ever meant . If I wanted to do that I would have referenced a comparison to Obama.
I was refering to the style of play and how your son is an important part.
The comparison to a very tall african american, that is well known should not be construed as an insult . It was never meant to be. It was only a reletive reference.
My apologies to you and your son If my comments were misunderstood. He played very well and was a load to deal with for alot of teams in the tournament.

4D-Record- Posts: 17
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Yeah, I got a question. How tall is he and what do you put in his milk?

firsttouch- Posts: 1
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plantit wrote:cntmcc2 wrote:indyfc wrote:plantit wrote:Axxman wrote:All bs aside, I do give props to the wizard kids for their play. It seems they have something good going and will be a force to be reckoned with in the future. Other than one tournament a year or so back, we didn't have much experience against that team, but based on their play this weekend, I must agree that they are solid.
See Merlin, I do tell the truth.
Props ?? maybe?? What I saw was ugly .. Kick it in the air . Kick it right. Have Manute Bol win it and shoot. 1 trick pony , a nickle and ya got a cup of " Jack Squat "
What's up with the direct insult of that 11 year old, or do you think that what you said is an appropriote description of an African American boy who happens to be tall? Do you think he or his father would think that is funny? Even for you that's a new low. I know you are an equal opportunity dis-er, but I don't recall seeing a post of yours where you demean an 11 year old directly.
We all talk a lot bs o'n here, but it's one thing to go after a coach or a team in general, but for an adult to single out and make fun of an 11 year old because of the way he looks is out of bounds.
Hopefully that comment doesn't represent what your true beliefs are....
As the parent of the 11 yr old you're referring to, I take offense to any term other than those which are representative of who he is... Sarcasm.. underlying insults should not be directed towards any child..... Ignorance on your part is not an excuse... He's a hard working kid who's working hard to get better.... which you will see the next time you see him play. He's a member of the Wizard's team and works just as hard as any 11yr old in the classic league....
I'm willing to answer any questions you have regarding my son....
Regards...
No insult was ever meant . If I wanted to do that I would have referenced a comparison to Obama.
I was refering to the style of play and how your son is an important part.
The comparison to a very tall african american, that is well known should not be construed as an insult . It was never meant to be. It was only a reletive reference.
My apologies to you and your son If my comments were misunderstood. He played very well and was a load to deal with for alot of teams in the tournament.
you still sux for making the comment

jimulon6- Posts: 346
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I can't wait to see this kid play.

omega striker- Posts: 2075
Join date: 2009-07-02
why?jimulon6 wrote:I can't wait to see this kid play.



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