soccersoccersoccer wrote:You need 100% signature in order to change your team name prior to july 1. So they would basically just be independent for the next few weeks. Other than that you just need 75% to sign on July 1 and the bye goes with the boys and whatever club they decide to go to, they don't even need their coach to go with them. Sooo...technically they could go anywere, there options are wide open - lucky them. Maybe Andromeda west - you never know what 4 million can buy.

My dd went thru this last year, they had 15 on the roster and therefore needed 11 to change clubs.

N+1 rule is gone; they need 100%. They need to keep 75% of the roster come July 1, Solar 97 is becoming Andromeda and those were the requirements. Everyone had to sign the sheet, all 16 players; so we are able to move to Andromeda even knowing that four kids are leaving. on July 1, we can only recruit 4 players. Someone read the bylaws.

omega striker wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

not in D1 they won't? it doesn't really matter how great the coach is it's pure talent thats gets it done in the end! so are you taking your BB there?

I've always loved window shopping. It's not over until the skinny lady sings.

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

Coach Jesse is a STUD! He's been in the private training world for some time and has developed some national players who will represent the USA in upcoming years. He's fed some players to the FC Dallas Juniors program for Chris Hayden. I would bet the house that he's one of the best coaches out there as far as developement and on field strategy. FWFC got a winner and needs to hold on to him! A+ for FWFC. Good hire.

Ibystander wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

not in D1 they won't? it doesn't really matter how great the coach is it's pure talent thats gets it done in the end! so are you taking your BB there?

I've always loved window shopping. It's not over until the skinny lady sings.

I guess "Jesse" will be coaching the 99 Titans if the "bye" is involved (not). I am not from around there, but heard coach "V" is a great coach and a great guy. Hope all works out for him. Looks like FWFC should have spent more time saving their 99 D1 group instead of trying to beef their 98 D2 group. I guess it is the nature of the beast.

prohibit wrote:

Ibystander wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

not in D1 they won't? it doesn't really matter how great the coach is it's pure talent thats gets it done in the end! so are you taking your BB there?

I've always loved window shopping. It's not over until the skinny lady sings.

I guess "Jesse" will be coaching the 99 Titans if the "bye" is involved (not). I am not from around there, but heard coach "V" is a great coach and a great guy. Hope all works out for him. Looks like FWFC should have spent more time saving their 99 D1 group instead of trying to beef their 98 D2 group. I guess it is the nature of the beast.

I don't know Vasser and/or his coaching abilities. All the luck to him and his Sting team. I do know that FWFC got a winner and if Jesse does not get the 99's, he will get his hands on the either '00/'02/'03/'04 etc. A+ for FWFC. In a league with a shortage of good coaches, he's a keeper and will make a name for himself in no time.

prohibit wrote:

Ibystander wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

not in D1 they won't? it doesn't really matter how great the coach is it's pure talent thats gets it done in the end! so are you taking your BB there?

I've always loved window shopping. It's not over until the skinny lady sings.

I guess "Jesse" will be coaching the 99 Titans if the "bye" is involved (not). I am not from around there, but heard coach "V" is a great coach and a great guy. Hope all works out for him. Looks like FWFC should have spent more time saving their 99 D1 group instead of trying to beef their 98 D2 group. I guess it is the nature of the beast.

You're a dip stik! to say the least. A little tasteless insinuating that a coach would coach a team like "sting" if they had the bye. Coaches sign a contract with the club to coach a team not for a bye; I am sure that FWFC made him a respectable offer. From what I found out earlier today, he has been pretty sought after the last couple of years from big Clubs. Oh I forgot Sting is a big club "For Girls" haha!, Titans is the sister club. You say you're not from around here but I know exactly who you are. I will come out and say hi to you. Your are part of this little click causing all these issues. Little clicks are not well thought of in the NTX soccer community. Your kid will struggle to find a home and if he is part of an ODP Program 'Watch out! because this hurts your bb too!

NorthTXWildcat wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

Coach Jesse is a STUD! He's been in the private training world for some time and has developed some national players who will represent the USA in upcoming years. He's fed some players to the FC Dallas Juniors program for Chris Hayden. I would bet the house that he's one of the best coaches out there as far as developement and on field strategy. FWFC got a winner and needs to hold on to him! A+ for FWFC. Good hire.

I think I know who you are talking about, his son plays for SR doesn't he? My daughter trained with him for about about two years In Mansfield. His training is like no other....my daughter really loved his training. Very fast pace not too much down time. I saw his bio on our website and i think its him but I'm not sure since there is no picture. If it's him then I agree A++++++ for FWFC!! WOW the club will really benefit from him, he brings a lot to the table. Maybe my little one will benefit when she gets older.

rcamber09 wrote:

prohibit wrote:

Ibystander wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

not in D1 they won't? it doesn't really matter how great the coach is it's pure talent thats gets it done in the end! so are you taking your BB there?

I've always loved window shopping. It's not over until the skinny lady sings.

I guess "Jesse" will be coaching the 99 Titans if the "bye" is involved (not). I am not from around there, but heard coach "V" is a great coach and a great guy. Hope all works out for him. Looks like FWFC should have spent more time saving their 99 D1 group instead of trying to beef their 98 D2 group. I guess it is the nature of the beast.

You're a dip stik! to say the least. A little tasteless insinuating that a coach would coach a team like "sting" if they had the bye. Coaches sign a contract with the club to coach a team not for a bye; I am sure that FWFC made him a respectable offer. From what I found out earlier today, he has been pretty sought after the last couple of years from big Clubs. Oh I forgot Sting is a big club "For Girls" haha!, Titans is the sister club. You say you're not from around here but I know exactly who you are. I will come out and say hi to you. Your are part of this little click causing all these issues. Little clicks are not well thought of in the NTX soccer community. Your kid will struggle to find a home and if he is part of an ODP Program 'Watch out! because this hurts your bb too!

"Dipstick?" LOL- I spent a few minutes making sure you really read my post- Lets touch on the following post- quote="Ibystander"]Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! Simply put- Jesse (which I have heard to be a good coach and probably is) would need to Coach the Titans 99 if he was to come in to take over the FWFC bye. Per the discussions above it appears that the "bye" rule, which ever rule is in affect (100%, 75%, or n+1) may very well be met. It seems that the 99 FWFC D1 players might have very well liked their coach. Now, as for the "You say you're not from around here but I know exactly who you are. I will come out and say hi to you" comment, it is clear that you may not exactly know me. You may be careful barking up the wrong tree. If you "knew me" you would know that I do not handle clicks very well and have no problems being out spoken about my thoughts. Clicks tend to avoid me because of that. Also, if you really do know me, please feel free to come say hi, I would love to return the howdy and hello. I hope both coaches do well. My club would have loved to have one of the bigger 99 players, but one coach heard from another coach that the player was more than likely not available. We could only assume that the rumor of the "bye" move must have had some validity.

How much you want to bet if the bye doesn't stay with FWFC - he bolts from the club - he is only listed as the coach for the 99 boys and no other teams.

I have heard he is an incredible skills coach - he should set up shop as a skills coach and forget aligning himself with a club at all.

soccersoccersoccer wrote:How much you want to bet if the bye doesn't stay with FWFC - he bolts from the club - he is only listed as the coach for the 99 boys and no other teams.

I have heard he is an incredible skills coach - he should set up shop as a skills coach and forget aligning himself with a club at all.

I have heard good stuff about the one coach going into FWFC and from the one coach departing. I know FWFC has really tried to bring in coaches and smaller clubs in the offseason to get even stronger on all levels. It seems that the Titans are trying to strengthen their coaching staff as well by grabbing the departing FWFC coach. Either way, I think it will be a positive for both clubs. FWFC losing a really good one, but getting a really good one in return. June never ceases to amaze me in the world of select soccer.

rcamber09 wrote:

NorthTXWildcat wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

Coach Jesse is a STUD! He's been in the private training world for some time and has developed some national players who will represent the USA in upcoming years. He's fed some players to the FC Dallas Juniors program for Chris Hayden. I would bet the house that he's one of the best coaches out there as far as developement and on field strategy. FWFC got a winner and needs to hold on to him! A+ for FWFC. Good hire.

I think I know who you are talking about, his son plays for SR doesn't he? My daughter trained with him for about about two years In Mansfield. His training is like no other....my daughter really loved his training. Very fast pace not too much down time. I saw his bio on our website and i think its him but I'm not sure since there is no picture. If it's him then I agree A++++++ for FWFC!! WOW the club will really benefit from him, he brings a lot to the table. Maybe my little one will benefit when she gets older.

THAT'S HIM. Great training! His son is a stud on the field and a national track star.

OK, Here is the Final Verdict; Between 4-25 and 6-30 , the parents or coach taking the bye to another club have to have 100% signatures from the rostered players for the 2009/2010 season. The Sheet has to state that all the players are in agreement to leave FWFC; if one of these parents does not sign the sheet, then the fate is sealed and the bye stays with the club.

If the parents or Coach taking the bye between 4-25 and 6-30 does get all 16 signatures, he will have to roster 12 players for the following 2010/2011 season under Sting. If on July 1, only eleven players show up from last years roster the Bye goes back to FWFC.

If he does have all 16 signatures before June 30, and he signs 12 players on July 1 then they become Sting and they keep the D1 bye.

Reliable sources from around the camp fire state that they are no where near the 16 Signatures needed and might even have trouble keeping 12 kids. Remember it's June and you can't trust anyone not even your closest friend! What are these boys going to do if they can't get the signatures. Will they go back to FWFC to the new coach or will they go and try to go to another club being fully aware that the new coach might not take a chance on them because they can't be trusted! Man it's a hard decision!

The 75% signature rule is only in effect during the mid season break and it is only for a name change or to become independent. Not to move the bye over to another club.

Ibystander wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

not in D1 they won't? it doesn't really matter how great the coach is it's pure talent thats gets it done in the end! so are you taking your BB there?

I've always loved window shopping. It's not over until the skinny lady sings.

Oh yes, and you certainly have that window shopping reputation. The shops (ie. fcd, andro, etc.) are well aware of your reputation and when it comes time to buy, the stores may be closed for you.

rcamber09 wrote:OK, Here is the Final Verdict; Between 4-25 and 6-30 , the parents or coach taking the bye to another club have to have 100% signatures from the rostered players for the 2009/2010 season. The Sheet has to state that all the players are in agreement to leave FWFC; if one of these parents does not sign the sheet, then the fate is sealed and the bye stays with the club.

If the parents or Coach taking the bye between 4-25 and 6-30 does get all 16 signatures, he will have to roster 12 players for the following 2010/2011 season under Sting. If on July 1, only eleven players show up from last years roster the Bye goes back to FWFC.

If he does have all 16 signatures before June 30, and he signs 12 players on July 1 then they become Sting and they keep the D1 bye.

Reliable sources from around the camp fire state that they are no where near the 16 Signatures needed and might even have trouble keeping 12 kids. Remember it's June and you can't trust anyone not even your closest friend! What are these boys going to do if they can't get the signatures. Will they go back to FWFC to the new coach or will they go and try to go to another club being fully aware that the new coach might not take a chance on them because they can't be trusted! Man it's a hard decision!

The 75% signature rule is only in effect during the mid season break and it is only for a name change or to become independent. Not to move the bye over to another club.

While that may be technically correct, you are mixing NTSSA rules with Classic rules. If a team wants to leave and join a new club during the year, then they are doing a "team name change" which does require 100%. However, even if they have 100% if the team name change happens after January 1, the bye invitation still goes to the previous club (the bye goes to the club as of January 1).

So, what happens in reality is that the 75%+ just leave during June and go to the new club with their existing coach or a new coach and train. There is no need to do a team name change. On July 1, 75%+ sign with the new club and the team (with the new club) gets to take the bye from the old club.

FSFFL wrote:

rcamber09 wrote:OK, Here is the Final Verdict; Between 4-25 and 6-30 , the parents or coach taking the bye to another club have to have 100% signatures from the rostered players for the 2009/2010 season. The Sheet has to state that all the players are in agreement to leave FWFC; if one of these parents does not sign the sheet, then the fate is sealed and the bye stays with the club.

If the parents or Coach taking the bye between 4-25 and 6-30 does get all 16 signatures, he will have to roster 12 players for the following 2010/2011 season under Sting. If on July 1, only eleven players show up from last years roster the Bye goes back to FWFC.

If he does have all 16 signatures before June 30, and he signs 12 players on July 1 then they become Sting and they keep the D1 bye.

Reliable sources from around the camp fire state that they are no where near the 16 Signatures needed and might even have trouble keeping 12 kids. Remember it's June and you can't trust anyone not even your closest friend! What are these boys going to do if they can't get the signatures. Will they go back to FWFC to the new coach or will they go and try to go to another club being fully aware that the new coach might not take a chance on them because they can't be trusted! Man it's a hard decision!

The 75% signature rule is only in effect during the mid season break and it is only for a name change or to become independent. Not to move the bye over to another club.

While that may be technically correct, you are mixing NTSSA rules with Classic rules. If a team wants to leave and join a new club during the year, then they are doing a "team name change" which does require 100%. However, even if they have 100% if the team name change happens after January 1, the bye invitation still goes to the previous club (the bye goes to the club as of January 1).

So, what happens in reality is that the 75%+ just leave during June and go to the new club with their existing coach or a new coach and train. There is no need to do a team name change. On July 1, 75%+ sign with the new club and the team (with the new club) gets to take the bye from the old club.

The Laws come from North Texas and it's North Texas that requires the club to have a 100% not Classic League, they have nothing to do with the By Laws. The By Laws are put in place so that Classic League or Lake Highlands do not have to be involved in transfers and or transfer issues. All I know is that our 97 boys are becoming Andro and we were specifically told that we needed 100% from all the rostered players because it was after April 25 and come July 1 we had to sign 12 players. We were on the verge of not making this happen because there was one parent that did not want to sign for whatever reason, we had 15 signatures last tuesday June 1, we were told by Ntssa that if that player did not sign it was a dead issue and the bye would stay with the current club even if the coach left. Last week we got the final signature and but we are more than sure that he is not going to sign with us come July 1; Since he is our 12th player and we are pretty sure that he is not going to sign with us. We will more than likely have to stay with our current club for at least one more year. Our Coach will be leaving so I am sure we will be stuck with a new coach but the boys future is in Jeopardy , we just don't have enough time to pull this one off. All teams will be made by the end of this week and i do not want my son scrambling last minute trying to find a team. If the coach new he wanted to leave the club why did they decide to do this last minute? it should have been done during the Mid Season so that they can have enough time to do everything, this is crazy! i feel bad for the Kiddos involved on both sides. Greed, Greed Greed and in the end the ones that get screwed are the kiddos. Wow!

4D-Record wrote:

Ibystander wrote:

omega striker wrote:

Ibystander wrote:Rumors, rumors, rumors. I heard that a new coach, Coach Jesse from CA, was taking over the bye at FWFC? If this one is true, then watch out! He's an excellent coach and bb has had a few training sessions with him, already. I know there will be a few talented players following this one. So, FWFC might be a force to reckon with in the fall, if this happens.

not in D1 they won't? it doesn't really matter how great the coach is it's pure talent thats gets it done in the end! so are you taking your BB there?

I've always loved window shopping. It's not over until the skinny lady sings.

Oh yes, and you certainly have that window shopping reputation. The shops (ie. fcd, andro, etc.) are well aware of your reputation and when it comes time to buy, the stores may be closed for you.

Andro? I don't ever recall being interested in that window. ML did call us and mentioned that he was moving to Andro, but even that can't make up for the commute.

Haven't seen the shops closed to babybystander. That kids a player. Besides why be upset because a kid and parents want to look around and find the best possible fit. People here take waaaay to much personally. It's just soccer. Sometimes it feels like navigating the halls of highschool, except the kids are all older and fatter. "OMG if you talk to those kids then you can't hang out with us"

I think June has got to be the reason most people say the H with soccer!
I thought Bystander's kid was a Comet? Sounds like the big three are going all in and the rest left to scramble for the left-overs. True orr False?

I think all the teams are making a big push this June...there seems to be a lot of movement with kids shifting from team to team and even teams switching from club to club. I thin you are about to have teams with a lot of talent and quite a few with very little. The next year or two will be fun....

CLUB31 wrote:I think June has got to be the reason most people say the H with soccer!
I thought Bystander's kid was a Comet? Sounds like the big three are going all in and the rest left to scramble for the left-overs. True orr False?

He is but you can tell from Smurfie's previous posts that they've never been "all in" with the Comets. She frequently posts about her bb guesting for Barcelona and I believe she has openly questioned whether they made the right choice. Always keeping their options open, as they say. Rosters for next season will certainly look a lot different for most teams.

it is not bad when parents switch teams. lets face it it is the parent not the kid. I bet bystander kid does not even want to switch, but hey they are experts parents even though they have only been select one season. To listen to her she has been around for ever what a flake. She needs to get on the same team as that little blonde on Fc dallas. His dad is as crazy as her.

that's rt!!! there was some players from Chivas playing with Barca this past wknd...I heard they are goingto stay with Barca!!! so will have good roster...

sailorman wrote:it is not bad when parents switch teams. lets face it it is the parent not the kid. I bet bystander kid does not even want to switch, but hey they are experts parents even though they have only been select one season. To listen to her she has been around for ever what a flake. She needs to get on the same team as that little blonde on Fc dallas. His dad is as crazy as her.

I think on one part the kid does want to change. On the other part he doesn't care because I think he would play anywhere anytime. I have never had a time where bb was playing and asked if he would and he said no. He doesn't care who the kids are, what the level, he just love to play same as my bb. As a parent they need to make a business choice that they feel best fits them and him.

2good4u wrote:that's rt!!! there was some players from Chivas playing with Barca this past wknd...I heard they are goingto stay with Barca!!! so will have good roster...

They already had a good roster before and a deeper one will only help. Love their soccer most of all so hope beautiful soccer win out next season more than it doesn't

I hope Barca gets the new kid from Fc Dallas, they will need him and that will make the New suarez weaker.

are we sure we are talking about same Jesse who son plays for Tejanos? I know he does privates but is he the one who will take over this club's team?

sailorman wrote:it is not bad when parents switch teams. lets face it it is the parent not the kid. I bet bystander kid does not even want to switch, but hey they are experts parents even though they have only been select one season. To listen to her she has been around for ever what a flake. She needs to get on the same team as that little blonde on Fc dallas. His dad is as crazy as her.

First off, BB decides where he goes. Apart from a brief few months at FCD, he's always been with the Comets. Go is right, BB will play anytime, anywhere, with anyone. He's guest played for many teams, and each time, we hear that we're switching teams. We've heard so much of this crap that we just didn't feel the need to comment on it. If bb could practice or play a game everyday, he would. Everyone has their reasons for staying or moving on, and I'm not about to itemize the list for you. Just because we talk soccer and speak nicely of other clubs does not mean we're putting down our own, or looking to join another. My three BBs have all played for the Comets, so does that calm all you speculating knuckleheads out there? The Comets has a lot to offer and I encourage those who are still looking to come and check us out. Why all the backstabbing the minute a kid decides to see what's elsewhere? If coaches constantly approach your child, I'm sure you might be curious and check things out, too. Oh, maybe no one's approached you? Should we decide to stay put or move on, it's none of your damned business. And another thing, leave that FC kid and dad alone. We like them. GO Flakes!

Ohh sorry must touched a sore spot, you are fake and I hope your bbs are not as fake as you..

I can and will say whatever I want, I would not play on a team that you or your bbs are on.

Go Wizards

Ibystander wrote:

sailorman wrote:it is not bad when parents switch teams. lets face it it is the parent not the kid. I bet bystander kid does not even want to switch, but hey they are experts parents even though they have only been select one season. To listen to her she has been around for ever what a flake. She needs to get on the same team as that little blonde on Fc dallas. His dad is as crazy as her.

First off, BB decides where he goes. Apart from a brief few months at FCD, he's always been with the Comets. Go is right, BB will play anytime, anywhere, with anyone. He's guest played for many teams, and each time, we hear that we're switching teams. We've heard so much of this crap that we just didn't feel the need to comment on it. If bb could practice or play a game everyday, he would. Everyone has their reasons for staying or moving on, and I'm not about to itemize the list for you. Just because we talk soccer and speak nicely of other clubs does not mean we're putting down our own, or looking to join another. My three BBs have all played for the Comets, so does that calm all you speculating knuckleheads out there? The Comets has a lot to offer and I encourage those who are still looking to come and check us out. Why all the backstabbing the minute a kid decides to see what's elsewhere? If coaches constantly approach your child, I'm sure you might be curious and check things out, too. Oh, maybe no one's approached you? Should we decide to stay put or move on, it's none of your damned business. And another thing, leave that FC kid and dad alone. We like them. GO Flakes!

I doubt any coach would approach you and if they did they would have committed a foul. No coach is allowed to approach any player under contract.

Well..well..well let me tell u Sailor your coach (wizards) he have approached lots of players under contract...
and by the way I like your post: Humor: coaches that think they are gods...you know urs is one of them...LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
good for TT's parents looking for the best for him!!!