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Classic League D1 Predictions

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/2/2015, 11:23 am

Speak for yourself dude. I know better. I am definitely the only one voicing it on the forum....but...I know better...

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/2/2015, 11:57 am

Speak for myself?
I quoted YOUR words and it's an open forum, right?
You wrote it, and now I'm supposed to shut the hell up?

You bash a team that you're not paying dues on.
That "Elite" team has a kid and parents that I am very good friends with.
They're not annoyed by the name change.

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/2/2015, 12:02 pm

You said, "YES YOU ARE"

It's actually not the truth. There are many others that have voiced the same opinion to me privately. Just not on this message board.

Again..."Bashing" must mean something different. For the last time (I promise this time), I am "Bashing" LP for going back on their mission statement to not promote their kids/teams with colorful adjective names.

I am NOT talking about that team's kids, parents, etc. Geez.

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/2/2015, 12:24 pm

Uuuuuhmmmm.... Yes, you were bashing the parents at least:
"National points/rankings may sound nice. But we all know the fact that one can afford to travel all over the country and play in higher point value tournaments contributes greatly to that."

IMHO, that seems like you're accusing LP elite of Points-Hunting. The parents are the ones who can afford the travel, right?
Or did Coach Fagen or LP's club pay for this trip?

Maybe LP Elite want their kids to travel and bond, while playing against some pretty good teams.
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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/2/2015, 12:28 pm

Yawn

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/2/2015, 12:31 pm

Awwwww..... Is the truth making my buddy sleepy?
Sweet dreams.
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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/2/2015, 12:33 pm

Facts are facts. Call a spade a spade.

Time for me to leave the forum again for a few weeks. Smile

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/2/2015, 12:39 pm

Same time tomorrow?
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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/2/2015, 12:43 pm

Hahaha!  Actually, no... gotta go cover a completely useless Dallas Cowboys game tomorrow.  Blah (and yes...I know you'll say they're all useless...lol!!)

BTW:  I am jealous of the teams that do get to travel more often.  I'd do it in a heartbeat. But alas, it's not up to me....

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/2/2015, 1:00 pm

I would NEVER call my Cowboys useless.
Even with this 17 year Super Bowl drought.
They still an ELITE team.

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by debit on 9/2/2015, 1:55 pm

Just to clarify and throw some facts into this silly debate. Liverpool Elite earned most (85%) of their points on GotSoccer from local tournaments and Classic League. See breakdown below.

Classic League 4,889
Texans Fall Festival 5,972
State Cup 2,366
Local 'Achievement' bonus points 2,075

Total local points 15,301 out of 17,955 total points. If they had not traveled to Vegas Cup and Real Colorado Cup, they would still have almost 7,000 points more than your poor team that can't afford to travel and didn't get the new fancy name. You play the victim role quite well.

(and yes, I have far too much time on my hands to look up all those points, but what can I say, I like spreadsheets)

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/3/2015, 4:06 pm

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/5/2015, 3:28 pm

Truth be told, I am probably just a little bitter because LP Rush hosed our team multiple times last year.  First, they decided to go to Vegas and participate in a tournament and left our NPL team with only half a team that we had to back fill.  We ultimately lost the 1 and only match 3-1 to the OKC team that got to participate in National tournament.  Secondly, at the end of the season last year, they decided to forfeit their match against Mexico and give them the 3 points they needed to stay in D1.  By doing so, CL forced a cancellation of our match against Mexico which kept us from moving from 5th to 4th place overall and forced FCD Gonclaves to be relegated.   I could have stomached a cancellation...but to just forfeit and effect standings and relegation just sat wrong with me and didn't seem very sportsman-like.  

For the record - We all like the kids on that team a lot and enjoyed the NPL time with them.  I have nothing negative to say about the boys at all.  They are a great team.  My main thing was the naming thing that goes against everything Liverpool preached against.   Regardless, I'll leave it alone and wish all good luck this year...

One additional detail:  6000+ points of ours was removed due the Ken Smith tournament being cancelled this year.  That was a big part of our overall points....and the 4th place finish would have added a bit too..  Anyway...just details.  Take care.


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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/5/2015, 4:52 pm


#1. Solar Stricker. Because they're not renamed Solar Elite (yet).
#2. FCD (Thornber). Name changed from Andromeda. Will drop to #6 if they even consider changing to FCD Superior.
#3. Liverpool Elite. Oath-breakers!!!!
#4. Sporting United. Could be top 3 by November.
#5. LP Owen. Lost good players. Will finish in the top 4 by the end of the 2015/2016 if the new players gained will start gelling and LP Elite doesn't "hose" them by forfeiting again next May.
#6. DT South. These kids looked good at the Beat The Heat tournament in Edmond, Ok. Lost on PK's to an impressive Azzuri team.
#7. FCD (Spiars). Dominated D2. Will probably give a lot of teams a run for their money. America America had more wins in D2, but had 5 losses and 0 draws. Spiars only had 1 loss.
#8. America Premier. Made it out of D2 with more wins than FCD (Spiars), but had 5 losses.
#9. Andromeda. (?)
#10. Because CCM feels that LP Elite/Rush screwed FCD Gonclaves with that forfeit.
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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/5/2015, 5:57 pm

And you'll never guess who I have picked to win D1.

LP (Fagan)

I was only trying to make a statement about one thing (naming) and by trying to backup my reasoning with examples...I started something that I didn't intend.

See you in a few minutes CornCarne

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/5/2015, 7:04 pm

The title of the posting is "Classic League D1 PREDICTIONS".
Not "Andy Rooney-style Gripe Session".
What does a club that you bought into's lead '02 team changing their name have to do with "Predictions"?
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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/5/2015, 7:07 pm

Hey. Stop already. You're pissing me off

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by debit on 9/5/2015, 7:16 pm

You guys should get married already.

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by CCM on 9/5/2015, 7:26 pm

Lol. Hysterical.

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/6/2015, 9:33 am

@debit wrote:You guys should get married already.

Can't.
....... yet.
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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by SnookumsConCarne on 9/6/2015, 10:46 am

@CCM wrote:Hey.  Stop already.  You're pissing me off

Sorry.
Could've sworn that you stated TWICE that you were done with this forum.

Kinda like LP's higher-ups stating that they'll never use words like "Elite" for any of their teams?
I guess this is the "Liverpool Way".

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by scottallison1 on 9/7/2015, 10:36 am

For the record, the Vegas Cup tournament was bought and paid for well in advance of the NPL schedule being published and the club were aware of that. We also asked if we could rearrange the schedule, however an alternative date could not be found.

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by Beast_04 on 9/7/2015, 7:34 pm

So now that there has been enough about D1, lets talk about D2 and D3.  Any predictions or name changes that anyone would like to discuss? Very Happy

Did any of the Labor Day tournaments change anybody's views on their predictions?
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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by sokkermom11 on 9/7/2015, 9:01 pm

Why do teams use PA players? To secure wins? That doesn't say much for the players they have does it? Opinions?

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by claretiano on 9/7/2015, 10:26 pm

That has been a practice being done for years by the big clubs. FC Dallas, Solar and Dallas Texans, we can't include Andromeda anymore. Yes it's to get the wins for the most part and a few more reasons:
1- academy player not getting enough playing time at the academy level
2-New academy player, don't know better fit by coach yet but good prospect and the club doesn't want to loose
3-academy player returning from injury (out of the game for a few months)
4-The classic team coach is the father of the kid and needs help winning games

I'm sure there is more but these are the most common ones

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Re: Classic League D1 Predictions

Post by soccerdadrandy on 9/8/2015, 1:23 am

@sokkermom11 wrote:Why do  teams use PA players? To secure wins? That doesn't say much for the players they have does it? Opinions?

what is so special about PA players that its considered cheating for a coach to use them? in most every case this BB was plucked from this coaches team to play PA. shouldn't teams just be happy that this good player isn't available each and every saturday? what about the PA quality BB's that don't leave for PA and remain on team for every game?. should each team each week just bench their best players and play the bench to decide results?
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