Now that the 2 big ranking tournies are over does anybody know when Classic leaque will post team rankings for the QT draw.

If I remember correctly, they won't post "the rankings." Your schedule for the QT will come out and you can deduce the rankings from it.
In reality, the rankings won't matter because you're going to play who they tell you to play....and then your team just needs to beat them! =) Good luck!

whyme wrote:If I remember correctly, they won't post "the rankings." Your schedule for the QT will come out and you can deduce the rankings from it.
In reality, the rankings won't matter because you're going to play who they tell you to play....and then your team just needs to beat them! =) Good luck!

You are correct whyme, CL will not post the rankings, just the groups. From the groups you will be able to back into their rankings. From what I understand, they will look at Got Soccer PAL & tournament results to determine the seedings.
They look heavily at the NAMDC, Puma Cup and King Tut Tournament results. I also heard that they do tend to "peak" at SDL results posted on here, but that is not confirmed information.
The tournament will have 10 groups. The last two years they have used the following format to fill out each group:

Group A: #1, #20, #21, #31, #50
[b]Group B: #2, #19, #22, #32, #49
Group C: #3, #18, #23, #33, #48
Group D: #4, #17, #24, #34, #47
Group E: #5, #16, #25, #35, #46
Group F: #6, #15, #26, #36, #45
Group G: #7, #14, #27, #37, #44
Group H: #8, #13, #28, #38, #43
Group I: #9, #12, #29, #39, #42
Group J: #10, #11, #30, #40, #41[/b]

Now that all of the Spring Tournaments are completed, here is an updated list of those winners:

SPRING TOURNAMENT WINNERS

1) CAREY INVITATIONAL – BANDITS OVER DT POMYKAL

2) COWTOWN CLASSIC – FCSL/TEJANOS

3) PRIMETIME SUMMER SHOOTOUT – ANDROMEDA OVER NTX STRIKERS

4) CLUB CLASSIC SOCCERFEST – FCD EAST OVER DINAMO

5) SHAWNEE TRAIL SHOOTOUT – TFC WELLS OVER ODYSSEY

6) SPRING BASH – TEXAS TOROS OVER COMETS BLUE

7) NORTH AMERICAN MEMORIAL DAY CUP – FCD PREMIER OVER WIZARDS

ASG ADIDAS INVITATIONAL – WIZARDS OVER FCD PREMIER

9) KYLE OWEN CLASSIC – WIZARDS OVER TFC WELLS

10) KING TUT – FCD PREMIERE

11) PUMA CUP – SOLAR RED OVER TIGRES

Some observations from the last few tournaments that may impact the seedings:
FCD Premier - NAMDC & King Tut Champs & ASG Adidas runner ups. Would not be surprised if this performance is enough to make them the #1 overall seed.
Wizards - ASG Adidas & Kyle Owen Champs & NAMDC runner ups. Should have secured a top 5 ranking.
Solar Red – Puma Cup Champs. Convincing showing in Puma Cup to demonstrate that they are still a force. Should have secured ranking as a top 6 or 7 team.
TFC Wells – ASG Adidas runner ups. Solidified position as a top 5 teams.
Tigres Academy – Puma Cup runner ups. Must be considered as a top 20 team.

Top QT seedings should unfold as follows:

1) FCD Premier

2) DT (Pomykal)

3) Bandits

4) Wizards

5) TFC Wells

6) Solar Red

7) FCD East

Andromeda Red

9) Solar Partain

10) ASG Gold North

There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

How many teams did the big clubs get accepted? Looking back through the Spring, it looked like FCD had 10 Academy teams....40 seems a little light based upon all the teams in action for PAL and SDL....

liebevin wrote:

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

How many teams did the big clubs get accepted? Looking back through the Spring, it looked like FCD had 10 Academy teams....40 seems a little light based upon all the teams in action for PAL and SDL....

My thoughts exactly... I believe last year there were 48 teams that entered the QT. This does seem preety light.

HD, how reliable is your information???

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

Unless they changed if from last year. Any team can join, last year there where 48 teams. There are ten brackets and each bracket will play a round robin tournamet after the first weekend the ten winners are in D1 and places 2,3 and 4 come back the next weekend and everyone else moves on to PPL or APL. During the second weekend the team are reseaded and the play again in ten brackets. First place goes to D1, second to D2 and third onto PPL or APL. That is how they have done it the last two years, not sure if they changed it this year

indyfc wrote:

liebevin wrote:

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

How many teams did the big clubs get accepted? Looking back through the Spring, it looked like FCD had 10 Academy teams....40 seems a little light based upon all the teams in action for PAL and SDL....

My thoughts exactly... I believe last year there were 48 teams that entered the QT. This does seem preety light.
HD, how reliable is your information???

The 98s had 46 as well....

liebevin wrote:

indyfc wrote:My thoughts exactly... I believe last year there were 48 teams that entered the QT. This does seem preety light.
HD, how reliable is your information???

The 98s had 46 as well....

Interesting...when the '93s went through Qualifying, there were 64 teams in their QT (and that is when they only had twenty teams in Classic League (no D3)).

afrankw wrote:

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

Unless they changed if from last year. Any team can join, last year there where 48 teams. There are ten brackets and each bracket will play a round robin tournamet after the first weekend the ten winners are in D1 and places 2,3 and 4 come back the next weekend and everyone else moves on to PPL or APL. During the second weekend the team are reseaded and the play again in ten brackets. First place goes to D1, second to D2 and third onto PPL or APL. That is how they have done it the last two years, not sure if they changed it this year

It depends on how many teams you have in the QT. There will not be 10 brackets the 2nd weekend. There will only be 20 teams left to qualify after the first weekend. So 5 brackets of 4. The last place team in each bracket the first weekend will not be playing the 2nd weekend.

indyfc wrote:

liebevin wrote:

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

How many teams did the big clubs get accepted? Looking back through the Spring, it looked like FCD had 10 Academy teams....40 seems a little light based upon all the teams in action for PAL and SDL....

My thoughts exactly... I believe last year there were 48 teams that entered the QT. This does seem preety light.

HD, how reliable is your information???

I was at the meeting on the 17th.

HD wrote:

afrankw wrote:

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

Unless they changed if from last year. Any team can join, last year there where 48 teams. There are ten brackets and each bracket will play a round robin tournamet after the first weekend the ten winners are in D1 and places 2,3 and 4 come back the next weekend and everyone else moves on to PPL or APL. During the second weekend the team are reseaded and the play again in ten brackets. First place goes to D1, second to D2 and third onto PPL or APL. That is how they have done it the last two years, not sure if they changed it this year

It depends on how many teams you have in the QT. There will not be 10 brackets the 2nd weekend. There will only be 20 teams left to qualify after the first weekend. So 5 brackets of 4. The last place team in each bracket the first weekend will not be playing the 2nd weekend.

Again, I said that is how they have done it the past two years. I do not know if they changed it this year.

What meeting occurred on the 17th?

HD wrote:

indyfc wrote:

liebevin wrote:

HD wrote:There are 40 U11 teams for QT. There will be 10 brackets of 4 the first weekend. Bracket winner moves to D1 and last place will be gone. The 2nd weekend will be 5 brackets of 4 with the top 2 in each going to D1 and the bottom 2 making up D2. Remember there are 20 teams in D1 the first year and 10 in D2.

How many teams did the big clubs get accepted? Looking back through the Spring, it looked like FCD had 10 Academy teams....40 seems a little light based upon all the teams in action for PAL and SDL....

My thoughts exactly... I believe last year there were 48 teams that entered the QT. This does seem preety light.

HD, how reliable is your information???

I was at the meeting on the 17th.

What meeting on the 17th?? The QT Managers' meeting is scheduled for 7/24...

Seinfeld4 wrote:I believe the 17^th was the meeting of all the classic league commissioners.

Ahh, so HD is a commisioner in CL!!! OK HD, spill the beans.... 40 teams total..... Did the seedings get done that same day? When will the schedules be posted???

QT schedules will be handed out at the managers meeting on July 24th. Never said I was a commissioner....Never assume anything.

Wanna bet the Bandits and Wizards dont go that high? The clubs will not let them both in top 5???? Sad but Top Four will be from Texans,FCD,Solar,Andromeda?

warhawk wrote:Wanna bet the Bandits and Wizards dont go that high? The clubs will not let them both in top 5???? Sad but Top Four will be from Texans,FCD,Solar,Andromeda?

No way they can put Solar and Andro above Bandits. Wizards, maybe, but even that would be a stretch. Credibility would be out the window.

Have you seen this happen warhawk?

Here are the seedings from the 99 group

1	DALLAS TEXANS CRAFT
2	SOLAR RED PASSOS
3	DALLAS TEXANS RED SOUTH HERNANDEZ
4	SOLAR CRAWFORD
5	ANDROMEDA RED BAZAN
6	FC DALLAS SUAREZ
7	ASG GOLD NORTH NGON
8	TEXAS GUNNERS MADDOX
9	TYLER AZZURRI NAPOLI SCHUBERT
10	FORT WORTH FC WHITE CATES
11	CD CHIVAS DALLAS JAQUEZ
12	DALLAS TEXANS RED CONNELL
13	COMETS BLUE BADII
14	FC FORCE BLACK BILY
15	ATLETICO MADRID LOPEZ
16	FC DALLAS SOUTH SAAVEDRA
17	DFW TEJANOS BARROW
18	FC DALLAS BLUE RHINE
19	BOCA JRS LOPEZ
20	ANDROMEDA GENTILE
21	FC DALLAS RED PRITCHETT
22	LIVERPOOL FC KEEGAN WARDROBE
23	UNITED SC SALDANA
24	OC WIZARDS BURCIAGA
25	DALLAS TEXANS SOUTH HERNANDEZ
26	TFC BLUE GARRET
27	CLUB CLASSIC ORANGE WILCO
28	TEXAS TITANS DALLAS VELEZ
29	FORT WORTH UNITED BLUE PHILLIPS
30	BARCELONA SC GARCIA
31	FC DALLAS CENTRAL DE LA FUENTE
32	COMETS RED BADII
33	DALLAS TEXANS WHITE FRANKLIN
34	REVOLUTION DFC
35	NECAXA FC LEON
36	TFC LARRY
37	DALLAS TEXANS TARRANT SOUTH RODRIGUEZ
38	MANCHESTER SC ANDERSON
39	FC DALLAS GOLD FIGUEROA
40	TLSC ORANGE OLALI
41	TEXAS LIGHTNING BLACK PICKARD
42	TEXAS TITANS WEST WINTON
43	NORTH TEXAS STRIKERS LOPEZ
44	DFW TORNADOS WHITE MEDINA
45	TEXAS TITANS WACO ILLING
46	FC DALLAS BLACK POCOCK
47	TRIUMPH FC SMITH
48	TLSC WHITE SASTOQUE

My guess is ?
1. DT
2. FCD
3. Solar Red
4.Andromeda
5. OC
6.TFC
7. Bandits
8.FCD east
9. Solar Partain
10.Some other DT team

looks like some teams are missing- is this the final list

warhawk wrote:My guess is ?
1. DT
2. FCD
3. Solar Red
4.Andromeda
5. OC
6.TFC
7. Bandits
8.FCD east
9. Solar Partain
10.Some other DT team

Any predictions beyond the top 10? I know it gets harder to guess seeding beyond those top groups--just wondering if anyone has any thoughts.

warhawk wrote:My guess is ?
1. DT
2. FCD
3. Solar Red
4.Andromeda
5. OC
6.TFC
7. Bandits
8.FCD east
9. Solar Partain
10.Some other DT team

I really hope you're wrong. There is no way Solar Red or Andromeda merit being seeded ahead of Bandits, Wizards, or TFC Wells.

indyfc wrote:

warhawk wrote:My guess is ?
1. DT
2. FCD
3. Solar Red
4.Andromeda
5. OC
6.TFC
7. Bandits
8.FCD east
9. Solar Partain
10.Some other DT team

I really hope you're wrong. There is no way Solar Red or Andromeda merit being seeded ahead of Bandits, Wizards, or TFC Wells.

I wonder if the Texas Toros S.C. '00 are goind to be up in the top 20?

Here's a stab at top 30. There is plenty to disagree with, so have at it.
Group A: #1, #20, #21, #31,
Group B: #2, #19, #22, #32,
Group C: #3, #18, #23, #33,
Group D: #4, #17, #24, #34,
Group E: #5, #16, #25, #35,
Group F: #6, #15, #26, #36,
Group G: #7, #14, #27, #37,
Group H: #8, #13, #28, #38,
Group I: #9, #12, #29, #39,
Group J: #10, #11, #30, #40,

1) FCD Premier
2) DT (Pomykal)
3) Bandits
4) Wizards
5) TFC Wells
6) Solar Red
7) Andromeda Red
FCD East
9) Solar Partain
10) DT (Craft)
11) Andromeda White (fka dinamo)
12) Dallas Texans (Densk?)
13)Toros
14)Tigres
15)Tejanos
16)FCD Suarez
17) ASG Gold North
18) Ft Worth
19) Liverpool Liddell
20) TFC (Schell)
21) Liverpool Kuyt (fka Club Classic Oranje)
22) Andromeda (Mclemore)
23) TFC (Garrett)
24) Comets
25) Odyssey
26) Mitlan
27) Hurst
28) Metro
29) NT Strikers
30) Texas Revolution

Which Andromeda team won the Primetime Summer Shootout?...

so when did Bandits drop below DT and FCD premier?

omega striker wrote:so when did Bandits drop below DT and FCD premier?

This is just based on performance over the last few important tournaments. Bandits have not done well (for whatever reason) and FCD has. If CL does what they say and go heavily off NAMDC, King Tut and Puma Cup, then FCD has to be put on top.

This does not mean that FCD will be the best team going into QT, just means that they took care of business when they had to.

indyfc wrote:

omega striker wrote:so when did Bandits drop below DT and FCD premier?

This is just based on performance over the last few important tournaments. Bandits have not done well (for whatever reason) and FCD has. If CL does what they say and go heavily off NAMDC, King Tut and Puma Cup, then FCD has to be put on top.

This does not mean that FCD will be the best team going into QT, just means that they took care of business when they had to.

this is true!