earbucket wrote:Here's a stab at top 30. There is plenty to disagree with, so have at it.
Group A: #1, #20, #21, #31,
Group B: #2, #19, #22, #32,
Group C: #3, #18, #23, #33,
Group D: #4, #17, #24, #34,
Group E: #5, #16, #25, #35,
Group F: #6, #15, #26, #36,
Group G: #7, #14, #27, #37,
Group H: #8, #13, #28, #38,
Group I: #9, #12, #29, #39,
Group J: #10, #11, #30, #40,

1) FCD Premier
2) DT (Pomykal)
3) Bandits
4) Wizards
5) TFC Wells
6) Solar Red
7) Andromeda Red
FCD East
9) Solar Partain
10) DT (Craft)
11) Andromeda White (fka dinamo)
12) Dallas Texans (Densk?)
13)Toros
14)Tigres
15)Tejanos
16)FCD Suarez
17) ASG Gold North
18) Ft Worth
19) Liverpool Liddell
20) TFC (Schell)
21) Liverpool Kuyt (fka Club Classic Oranje)
22) Andromeda (Mclemore)
23) TFC (Garrett)
24) Comets
25) Odyssey
26) Mitlan
27) Hurst
28) Metro
29) NT Strikers
30) Texas Revolution

Don't disagree much, except with ASG Gold North. They are hands down better than at least 4 teams shown ahead of them.

Don't disagree much, except with ASG Gold North. They are hands down better than at least 4 teams shown ahead of them.
No problem with ASG being seeded higher, but basing it on ASG losing 3 of 4 in King Tut Silver. Don't know if they lost personnel or there were other issues.
Andromeda - Mclemore won the tourney.

earbucket wrote:Don't disagree much, except with ASG Gold North. They are hands down better than at least 4 teams shown ahead of them.
No problem with ASG being seeded higher, but basing it on ASG losing 3 of 4 in King Tut Silver. Don't know if they lost personnel or there were other issues.
Andromeda - Mclemore won the tourney.

You know what, after thinking about it, I fell into the trap of not going off the recent performance. You are exactly right that unfortunately for seedings, they should be dinged for their performances in the last few tournmanents. They will be in the same boat as Bandits. Better team than what the seedings might reflect.

Make sure I am clear on the logic.....
DT Dynamo- In last two tournaments lost 2 and tied 2
FC Premier- In past 4 tourneys lost 3, tied 1 or something like that
TFC lost 2 tied 1
But ASG has a bad showing and they are done, what am I missing?

striker33 wrote:Make sure I am clear on the logic.....
DT Dynamo- In last two tournaments lost 2 and tied 2
FC Premier- In past 4 tourneys lost 3, tied 1 or something like that
TFC lost 2 tied 1
But ASG has a bad showing and they are done, what am I missing?

Maybe I'm wrong, I don't have ASG's schedule, but have they beat any of the top 5 teams other than the Wizards about a year ago? Have they even played any other team in the top 5 (Wizards, FCD Premier, Bandits, DT Dynamo, TFC Wells) other than the Wizards? (maybe they have - but I don't remember seeing it posted or talked about - could be the heat taking my memory)? If they haven't competed against those teams, why mention them as though they are comparable to those teams? Those 5 teams are always playing against eachother in the top tournaments in the top brackets with one beating the other - and thats where most of their losses come from . . . eachother - I don't remember hearing of ASG Gold North being in the mix in any of those tourneys where those teams are involved.

striker33 wrote:Make sure I am clear on the logic.....
DT Dynamo- In last two tournaments lost 2 and tied 2
FC Premier- In past 4 tourneys lost 3, tied 1 or something like that
TFC lost 2 tied 1
But ASG has a bad showing and they are done, what am I missing?

Striker not sure who you are directing your post to, but the discussion was around QT seeding vs. Ranking. ASG Gold North I am saying is a better team than what they will probably be seeded in the QT. Reason for that is King Tut and really no significant wins over any top 10 teams.

The teams you have named above have either won the importanttournaments or performed well in them.

I don't think anyone on here, especially me has said that ASG Gold North is done.

In the contrary, I believe that if they are dropped as far in the seedings as listed here, they are going to do a dis-service to whatever top seed draws them because it will be one tough game.

So....are we supposed to find out the tournament seeding this week?

dan-in-texas wrote:So....are we supposed to find out the tournament seeding this week?

I would expect tournament seedings (and therefore brackets) to be released at the QT manager's meeting this Saturday morning. At that time there will be lots of whining and gnashing of teeth (especially on this board) about teams who have been wronged in the seedings, other teams who are seeded to high, etc. That will be fun to watch, however I would submit that this season especially the seedings are not that important. There are only 40 teams in the tournament (heard from multiple sources) so half of these will make D1. Stay out of the bottom slot in your 4-team bracket and you are in Classic League. Win your bracket and you are in D1.

For those playing the 2nd weekend, you just have to finish in the top 2 out of 4 teams in your bracket to make D1. This format gives all deserving teams ample opportunity to make it into D1 regardless of seedings - if they don't make it it will probably be because others just outplayed them. Once in D1 seedings in the league don't matter at all - everyone will play everyone by the end of the spring and the rankings will be determined on the field - that will be the best part!

For those who don't make D1 but do make it into D2, you still are in Classic League and still have an opportunity to make it into the top 20 for U12 year by finishing top 2 in your league, so enjoy playing in a good league without getting hammered by the big boys. For those who don't make Classic League, enjoy Plano or Arlington because it will be a rough road to escape (other than changing teams next season). There will be good teams who for whatever reason did not participate in the QT and only two slots are available in Classic at the end of the season. There will be several teams in Plano/Arlington who are immediately better than some of the D2 teams (you will see this in tournaments). This will start new discussions about "how deserving teams are locked out of Classic League", etc. The answer to that will be "you should have entered the QT", or "you should have played better in the QT".

What a great time of year! Good luck to all 2000 teams!!

soccer geek wrote:

dan-in-texas wrote:So....are we supposed to find out the tournament seeding this week?

I would expect tournament seedings (and therefore brackets) to be released at the QT manager's meeting this Saturday morning. At that time there will be lots of whining and gnashing of teeth (especially on this board) about teams who have been wronged in the seedings, other teams who are seeded to high, etc. That will be fun to watch, however I would submit that this season especially the seedings are not that important. There are only 40 teams in the tournament (heard from multiple sources) so half of these will make D1. Stay out of the bottom slot in your 4-team bracket and you are in Classic League. Win your bracket and you are in D1.

For those playing the 2nd weekend, you just have to finish in the top 2 out of 4 teams in your bracket to make D1. This format gives all deserving teams ample opportunity to make it into D1 regardless of seedings - if they don't make it it will probably be because others just outplayed them. Once in D1 seedings in the league don't matter at all - everyone will play everyone by the end of the spring and the rankings will be determined on the field - that will be the best part!

For those who don't make D1 but do make it into D2, you still are in Classic League and still have an opportunity to make it into the top 20 for U12 year by finishing top 2 in your league, so enjoy playing in a good league without getting hammered by the big boys. For those who don't make Classic League, enjoy Plano or Arlington because it will be a rough road to escape (other than changing teams next season). There will be good teams who for whatever reason did not participate in the QT and only two slots are available in Classic at the end of the season. There will be several teams in Plano/Arlington who are immediately better than some of the D2 teams (you will see this in tournaments). This will start new discussions about "how deserving teams are locked out of Classic League", etc. The answer to that will be "you should have entered the QT", or "you should have played better in the QT".

What a great time of year! Good luck to all 2000 teams!!

Very nicely put. Thanks for the info.

Here is a slightly different take on the rankings. Good luck to everyone.

1	FCD Premier
2	DT (Pomykal)
3	Wizards
4	Bandits
5	Andromeda Red
6	TFC Wells
7	FCD East
8	Solar Red
9	Solar Partain
10	DT (Craft)
11	Dallas Texans (Densk?)
12	Andromeda (Mclemore)
13	Toros
14	ASG Gold North
15	Odyssey
16	Andromeda White (fka dinamo)
17	Tigres
18	Tejanos
19	NT Strikers
20	FCD Suarez
21	Liverpool Kuyt (fka Club Classic Oranje)
22	Ft Worth
23	TFC (Schell)
24	Comets
25	Liverpool Liddell
26	TFC (Garrett)
27	Texas Revolution
28	Mitlan
29	Metro
30	Hurst

Take a look at our tournaments for the spring. I really feel like we should be sitting in the top 30 but perhaps because we played so few you guys wont agree.

Mansfield Samba FC Gold Got Soccer ID 0170658. We only Played the Texas Lightning Showcase and the Genesis Elite, but some of the teams you have listed above us we played and defeated in those tourneys, and we made the final in both.

http://www.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=170658&History=yes


Take a look and you guys let me know what you think please.

Thanks,
BTMason

dan-in-texas wrote:

soccer geek wrote:

dan-in-texas wrote:So....are we supposed to find out the tournament seeding this week?

I would expect tournament seedings (and therefore brackets) to be released at the QT manager's meeting this Saturday morning. At that time there will be lots of whining and gnashing of teeth (especially on this board) about teams who have been wronged in the seedings, other teams who are seeded to high, etc. That will be fun to watch, however I would submit that this season especially the seedings are not that important. There are only 40 teams in the tournament (heard from multiple sources) so half of these will make D1. Stay out of the bottom slot in your 4-team bracket and you are in Classic League. Win your bracket and you are in D1.

For those playing the 2nd weekend, you just have to finish in the top 2 out of 4 teams in your bracket to make D1. This format gives all deserving teams ample opportunity to make it into D1 regardless of seedings - if they don't make it it will probably be because others just outplayed them. Once in D1 seedings in the league don't matter at all - everyone will play everyone by the end of the spring and the rankings will be determined on the field - that will be the best part!

For those who don't make D1 but do make it into D2, you still are in Classic League and still have an opportunity to make it into the top 20 for U12 year by finishing top 2 in your league, so enjoy playing in a good league without getting hammered by the big boys. For those who don't make Classic League, enjoy Plano or Arlington because it will be a rough road to escape (other than changing teams next season). There will be good teams who for whatever reason did not participate in the QT and only two slots are available in Classic at the end of the season. There will be several teams in Plano/Arlington who are immediately better than some of the D2 teams (you will see this in tournaments). This will start new discussions about "how deserving teams are locked out of Classic League", etc. The answer to that will be "you should have entered the QT", or "you should have played better in the QT".

What a great time of year! Good luck to all 2000 teams!!

Very nicely put. Thanks for the info.

agreed - last season, got a seed that I don't think we deserved, and ended up in Arl, and made it to the challenge...placed mid pack there too...but, once you get the challenge, you'll either deserve it or you won't. By the time everything REALLY MATTERS (15-16ish), then everyone is where they need to be (and then they are stolen for the national academy teams!!!)

BTMason wrote:Take a look at our tournaments for the spring. I really feel like we should be sitting in the top 30 but perhaps because we played so few you guys wont agree.

Mansfield Samba FC Gold Got Soccer ID 0170658. We only Played the Texas Lightning Showcase and the Genesis Elite, but some of the teams you have listed above us we played and defeated in those tourneys, and we made the final in both.

http://www.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=170658&History=yes


Take a look and you guys let me know what you think please.

Thanks,
BTMason

You are going to have 4 tiers for 10 groups. Tier 1 will be the top 10 teams, Tier 2 will be 11 - 20, Tier 3 will be 21 - 30 and Tier 4 will be 31 - 40.

In my opinion:

Tier 1
FCD Premier, DT Pomykal, Wizards, TFC Wells, Bandits, Solar Red, Solar Partain, Andromeda Red, FCD East, ASG Gold North

Tier 2
Andromeda White, Texas Toros, DFW Tejanos, Dallas Tigres, DT Craft, DT Densk, FCD Suarez, Liverpool (CCO), Comets, FCD Figo

Tier 3
Mitlan, Liverpool Liddell, Andromeda McClemore, Odyssey, NTX Strikers, FWFC, TFC Schell, TFC Garrett, ?, ?

Tier 4
Everyone else....

The fact of the matter is that unless you are top 20, it really won't matter. I think we can all say for certain that the top 20 (in whatever order you want to put them) are pretty clear cut.

Historically, teams seeded 21 - 40 will have a tough time advancing the first weekend anyway, so there is no poin in splitting hairs to determine if you should be 23 or 33.

Give it all you got the first weekend and if it doesn't happen, use that weekend as a learning experience for the second. The second weekend will be much closer in competetition and groups sometimes end up skewed, so there is a great chance for all to qualify.

indyfc wrote:

BTMason wrote:Take a look at our tournaments for the spring. I really feel like we should be sitting in the top 30 but perhaps because we played so few you guys wont agree.

Mansfield Samba FC Gold Got Soccer ID 0170658. We only Played the Texas Lightning Showcase and the Genesis Elite, but some of the teams you have listed above us we played and defeated in those tourneys, and we made the final in both.

http://www.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=170658&History=yes


Take a look and you guys let me know what you think please.

Thanks,
BTMason

You are going to have 4 tiers for 10 groups. Tier 1 will be the top 10 teams, Tier 2 will be 11 - 20, Tier 3 will be 21 - 30 and Tier 4 will be 31 - 40.

In my opinion:

Tier 1
FCD Premier, DT Pomykal, Wizards, TFC Wells, Bandits, Solar Red, Solar Partain, Andromeda Red, FCD East, ASG Gold North

Tier 2
Andromeda White, Texas Toros, DFW Tejanos, Dallas Tigres, DT Craft, DT Densk, FCD Suarez, Liverpool (CCO), Comets, FCD Figo

Tier 3
Mitlan, Liverpool Liddell, Andromeda McClemore, Odyssey, NTX Strikers, FWFC, TFC Schell, TFC Garrett, ?, ?

Tier 4
Everyone else....

The fact of the matter is that unless you are top 20, it really won't matter. I think we can all say for certain that the top 20 (in whatever order you want to put them) are pretty clear cut.

Historically, teams seeded 21 - 40 will have a tough time advancing the first weekend anyway, so there is no poin in splitting hairs to determine if you should be 23 or 33.

Give it all you got the first weekend and if it doesn't happen, use that weekend as a learning experience for the second. The second weekend will be much closer in competetition and groups sometimes end up skewed, so there is a great chance for all to qualify.

I could agree that you could argue that 1-5 could be interchanged and 6-12 mixed around as well, but how do you put a ranking on a teams such as FC Figo whose entire roster has turned over since the start of Summer?

@Ibra...good point! Does FC Figo even have a team, if so, how strong is it? I

Ibra wrote:

indyfc wrote:

BTMason wrote:Take a look at our tournaments for the spring. I really feel like we should be sitting in the top 30 but perhaps because we played so few you guys wont agree.

Mansfield Samba FC Gold Got Soccer ID 0170658. We only Played the Texas Lightning Showcase and the Genesis Elite, but some of the teams you have listed above us we played and defeated in those tourneys, and we made the final in both.

http://www.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=170658&History=yes


Take a look and you guys let me know what you think please.

Thanks,
BTMason

You are going to have 4 tiers for 10 groups. Tier 1 will be the top 10 teams, Tier 2 will be 11 - 20, Tier 3 will be 21 - 30 and Tier 4 will be 31 - 40.

In my opinion:

Tier 1
FCD Premier, DT Pomykal, Wizards, TFC Wells, Bandits, Solar Red, Solar Partain, Andromeda Red, FCD East, ASG Gold North

Tier 2
Andromeda White, Texas Toros, DFW Tejanos, Dallas Tigres, DT Craft, DT Densk, FCD Suarez, Liverpool (CCO), Comets, FCD Figo

Tier 3
Mitlan, Liverpool Liddell, Andromeda McClemore, Odyssey, NTX Strikers, FWFC, TFC Schell, TFC Garrett, ?, ?

Tier 4
Everyone else....

The fact of the matter is that unless you are top 20, it really won't matter. I think we can all say for certain that the top 20 (in whatever order you want to put them) are pretty clear cut.

Historically, teams seeded 21 - 40 will have a tough time advancing the first weekend anyway, so there is no poin in splitting hairs to determine if you should be 23 or 33.

Give it all you got the first weekend and if it doesn't happen, use that weekend as a learning experience for the second. The second weekend will be much closer in competetition and groups sometimes end up skewed, so there is a great chance for all to qualify.

I could agree that you could argue that 1-5 could be interchanged and 6-12 mixed around as well, but how do you put a ranking on a teams such as FC Figo whose entire roster has turned over since the start of Summer?

Do you really think that Classic League is going to know what has happened on every team? They are going to look at the GotSoccer results and go off of previous knowledge of this team to determine their seeding. Do you really think CL knows what has happened within each team? Almost every team is different going into this.

Take Andromeda Red for example. They should be given a lower top 10 seed because of their performance, but in reality, they may be the team to beat because of the coaching changes and the addition of some very talented kids. Will CL take that into account? Maybe, but based on what they have said their seeding process is, they shouldn't.

FCD Premier should get the #1 seed because of their performance over the last 3 to 4 tournaments, but they could arguably be the 4th best team.

ASG Gold North also lost a couple of kids that has potentially affected them more than one thinks, but they have done enough to earn a possible 10 seed because no one below them has anything better to show in performance. In reality, DT Craft or Liverpool could be the 10th seed, but they don't merit it on paper.

And lets not even get started on Bandits. They should be a clear top 3 seed based on what they have done, but their performance over the last few tournaments and the fact that they are an independent will hurt their seeding. And lets say that they do get the #3 seed. Are they really #3 with the changes @ Andro Red, Wizards and TFC Wells improving and Solar Red's merger with DT South?


I realize that the title of the thread says 00 Rankings, but we've been trying to guess how CL will seed these teams. In that context, FCD Figo probably belongs where it's been sloted. In a ranking, you are probably very right.

One more thing CL does is talk to some coaches that only coach in academy and get the inside story on some teams. BTW you have every year teams that qualify for CL ranked between 20 - 47. When the 97 had their QT a few years back they saw a team playing the Puma tournament as a rec team and impressed the CL folks so much that they talked them into registering late for the QT and they qualified into D1 the first year.

indyfc wrote:

Ibra wrote:

indyfc wrote:

BTMason wrote:Take a look at our tournaments for the spring. I really feel like we should be sitting in the top 30 but perhaps because we played so few you guys wont agree.

Mansfield Samba FC Gold Got Soccer ID 0170658. We only Played the Texas Lightning Showcase and the Genesis Elite, but some of the teams you have listed above us we played and defeated in those tourneys, and we made the final in both.

http://www.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=170658&History=yes


Take a look and you guys let me know what you think please.

Thanks,
BTMason

You are going to have 4 tiers for 10 groups. Tier 1 will be the top 10 teams, Tier 2 will be 11 - 20, Tier 3 will be 21 - 30 and Tier 4 will be 31 - 40.

In my opinion:

Tier 1
FCD Premier, DT Pomykal, Wizards, TFC Wells, Bandits, Solar Red, Solar Partain, Andromeda Red, FCD East, ASG Gold North

Tier 2
Andromeda White, Texas Toros, DFW Tejanos, Dallas Tigres, DT Craft, DT Densk, FCD Suarez, Liverpool (CCO), Comets, FCD Figo

Tier 3
Mitlan, Liverpool Liddell, Andromeda McClemore, Odyssey, NTX Strikers, FWFC, TFC Schell, TFC Garrett, ?, ?

Tier 4
Everyone else....

The fact of the matter is that unless you are top 20, it really won't matter. I think we can all say for certain that the top 20 (in whatever order you want to put them) are pretty clear cut.

Historically, teams seeded 21 - 40 will have a tough time advancing the first weekend anyway, so there is no poin in splitting hairs to determine if you should be 23 or 33.

Give it all you got the first weekend and if it doesn't happen, use that weekend as a learning experience for the second. The second weekend will be much closer in competetition and groups sometimes end up skewed, so there is a great chance for all to qualify.

I could agree that you could argue that 1-5 could be interchanged and 6-12 mixed around as well, but how do you put a ranking on a teams such as FC Figo whose entire roster has turned over since the start of Summer?

Do you really think that Classic League is going to know what has happened on every team? They are going to look at the GotSoccer results and go off of previous knowledge of this team to determine their seeding. Do you really think CL knows what has happened within each team? Almost every team is different going into this.

Take Andromeda Red for example. They should be given a lower top 10 seed because of their performance, but in reality, they may be the team to beat because of the coaching changes and the addition of some very talented kids. Will CL take that into account? Maybe, but based on what they have said their seeding process is, they shouldn't.

FCD Premier should get the #1 seed because of their performance over the last 3 to 4 tournaments, but they could arguably be the 4th best team.

ASG Gold North also lost a couple of kids that has potentially affected them more than one thinks, but they have done enough to earn a possible 10 seed because no one below them has anything better to show in performance. In reality, DT Craft or Liverpool could be the 10th seed, but they don't merit it on paper.

And lets not even get started on Bandits. They should be a clear top 3 seed based on what they have done, but their performance over the last few tournaments and the fact that they are an independent will hurt their seeding. And lets say that they do get the #3 seed. Are they really #3 with the changes @ Andro Red, Wizards and TFC Wells improving and Solar Red's merger with DT South?


I realize that the title of the thread says 00 Rankings, but we've been trying to guess how CL will seed these teams. In that context, FCD Figo probably belongs where it's been sloted. In a ranking, you are probably very right.

Was just using FC Figo as an example of a team with a lot of red in their Got Soccer rankings that had a fairly complete turnover of players -vs. - teams at the top of the theoretical rankings that had only a few roster changes....How does CL evaluate teams that have no roster resemblance to the roster that is documented on Got Soccer?

Two more days and all the waiting is over...

Per CCSAI - Tournament schedule will be available online on Sunday, July 25th by 9:00 AM

Pressure is building up !

DT Craft and DT Densk are the same team folks. DT Connell is the old Davis team.

How does seeding work for the second weekend, since that's when half of the teams will be playing again? Are the results from the first weekend THE factor in re-seeding or just a factor (along w/ whatever determined the first weekend's seeding)? It seems only fair & proper that a team finishing second during the first weekend should be given a 1 or 2 seeding the following weekend. That being said, there WILL be a team seeded outside the top 12 that wins their group the first weekend (teams #9-12 are so close in ranking that a 12 beating a 9 should not be considered a real upset).

Middie 07 wrote:How does seeding work for the second weekend, since that's when half of the teams will be playing again? Are the results from the first weekend THE factor in re-seeding or just a factor (along w/ whatever determined the first weekend's seeding)? It seems only fair & proper that a team finishing second during the first weekend should be given a 1 or 2 seeding the following weekend. That being said, there WILL be a team seeded outside the top 12 that wins their group the first weekend (teams #9-12 are so close in ranking that a 12 beating a 9 should not be considered a real upset).

Last year and I understand that they might not be doing it the same way this year. There were 30 teams in the second week and 10 brackets. So in each bracket there was a 2nd, 3rd and 4th place team, based on the round 1 results. I am not sure if they took anything else in to consideration.

afrankw wrote:

Middie 07 wrote:How does seeding work for the second weekend, since that's when half of the teams will be playing again? Are the results from the first weekend THE factor in re-seeding or just a factor (along w/ whatever determined the first weekend's seeding)? It seems only fair & proper that a team finishing second during the first weekend should be given a 1 or 2 seeding the following weekend. That being said, there WILL be a team seeded outside the top 12 that wins their group the first weekend (teams #9-12 are so close in ranking that a 12 beating a 9 should not be considered a real upset).

Last year and I understand that they might not be doing it the same way this year. There were 30 teams in the second week and 10 brackets. So in each bracket there was a 2nd, 3rd and 4th place team, based on the round 1 results. I am not sure if they took anything else in to consideration.

The second weekend there will be 20 teams. 5 brackets of 4 teams and the teams will be reseeded.

There are 40 teams in this years QT. 10 brackets of 4. The winners of each bracket will be D1. The last place teams in each bracket will be dropped. The remaining 20 teams will play the following weekend and top 10 finishers will also be in D1 and the rest D2.

Ok anyone ready to take a stab at a new top 10 now?
1. DT Gall
2.FCD
3. OCW
4. TFC
5. Bandits
6.Solar Red
7. DT Craft
8.Solar Partain
9. Andomeda
10. FCD Spencer

warhawk wrote:Ok anyone ready to take a stab at a new top 10 now?
1. DT Gall
2.FCD
3. OCW
4. TFC
5. Bandits
6.Solar Red
7. DT Craft
8.Solar Partain
9. Andomeda
10. FCD Spencer

I would put Tigres somewhere in there. So are we already giving DT Gall the crown ? Isn't that a bit fast ?

gababa wrote:

warhawk wrote:Ok anyone ready to take a stab at a new top 10 now?
1. DT Gall
2.FCD
3. OCW
4. TFC
5. Bandits
6.Solar Red
7. DT Craft
8.Solar Partain
9. Andomeda
10. FCD Spencer

I would put Tigres somewhere in there. So are we already giving DT Gall the crown ? Isn't that a bit fast ?

I wouldn't say giving them the crown, but I definetely think they are still #1. Remember, they were number 1 or 2 pretty much for the past 2 years. For CL qualifying they only dropped to #2 because FCD Premier did well in the tournaments the committee uses to seed the teams.

I would go:

1. DT Gall
2. FCD Premier
3. Wizards
4. TFC Wells
5. Bandits
6. Solar Partain
7. Andromeda Red
8. FCD Spencer
9. Solar Red
10. Tigres

Solar Red & DT Craft are over rated and FCD Spencer under rated in the original post....

warhawk wrote:Ok anyone ready to take a stab at a new top 10 now?
1. DT Gall
2.FCD
3. OCW
4. TFC
5. Bandits
6.Solar Red
7. DT Craft
8.Solar Partain
9. Andomeda
10. FCD Spencer

You have the usual suspects. Want to provide your thoughts on each team and their ranking?