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    Rightback

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  Rightback on Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:26 pm

    I thought we called that the season, then let their performance speak for itself...

    indyfc

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  indyfc on Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:12 pm

    Rightback wrote:I thought we called that the season, then let their performance speak for itself...

    Yes, but then it wouldn't be any fun....

    1. DT Gall - This is the best passing team in this age group. They have a tremendous first touch and control the mid-field extremely well. They have an explosive forward that can beat just about any defender. If you foul them in your defensive zone you can pretty much consider it in the net with that lefty they have now. I would have seen this team as the Solar 98 team that didn't lose a game in years under Marcio, but not sure now. I do believe these parents will also bail the first sign of not dominating the entire age group.

    2. FCD Premier - Team is still improving. They play very well as a team. The coach will drop his best players to defend as soon as they get up on you and make it extremely tough to score on them. Score on them first, or you're in for a long game. Pino has done very well with the team. Boys seem to like him, but not so sure about the parents.

    3. Wizards - Extremely physical and well balanced. They run up and down the field all game long making up for their lack of posession game. They have playmakers upfront and a stingy defense. Not sure what to think about Burciaga, the progress of this team seems steady, but not a fast one.

    4. TFC Wells - Probably even more physical than Wizards. These boys will leave some bruises on you! They will beat up on the lower half of the teams, but will struggle with the top ones. They need one more forward to compliment the really good one they have. The coach is a very good one and has a good grasp of the team and parents.

    5. Bandits - I feel terrible ranking them as #5, but I may have been wrong previously stating that they may have improved after the loses they took. They don't control the midfield as well as they did and this will be exposed when they play the top teams. They will still dominate the bottom half of D1 teams. The coach is fantastic and I just hope the rest of the parents don't bail on him if they don't end up in 1st or 2nd place.

    6. Solar Partain - Best of the two Solar teams, but incredibly inconsistent. This group is very scrappy and dominate when they play their possession game. They get themselves in trouble when they try to just get it up to the forwards and when teams counter. Defense a little suspect. Coach is very good and should be able to upgrade the team next season even more.

    7. Andromeda Red - This team will be better in the Spring as the team gels. I think they will have problems scoring, but ML will get them to play a very structured midfield and they will make it tough on other teams to score as well on them. If they get a favorable fall schedule, they might be in the Top 5 by the end of the U11 year. Do I even need to comment anything on ML?

    8. FCD Spencer - One of my favorite teams to watch. This coach has done more with less than anyone else. Very good possession game and one of the best in changing the field on you. Each player on this team has to give 100% each game for the team to be successful, and they usually do. Spencer is an under rated coach. I think very highly of him.

    9. Solar Red - Over rated. The team did not improve after the merger with DT South. Don't think this team will be Top 10 very long. Didn't like anything I saw from them during the QT. Coach has done a good job when he's had the talent. Not so sure now that the talent level went down on his team.

    10. Tigres - Team plays what North Texans consider "kickball", but they are effective at it. They have a very good right forward that can will win most of his 1 on 1's. Good speed in the middle and back that make up for a lot of their mistakes. Don't know much about this coach.

    Just my observations, and I'm sure the majority will disagree, but only time will tell. Anyone else?

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  Guest on Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:26 pm

    Pretty good Indy, 2-5 are interchangeable for me after watching this weekend and 6-10 can all beat 2-5 but I don't think consistently. The synopsis is good as well. You watch a lot of soccer!!!

    Middie 07

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  Middie 07 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:40 pm

    This is more of a general comment than specific to the teams. To the top teams, don't buy your own hype. Clubs in Plano & Arlington, you can play in Classic I if you work at it. Of COURSE the top clubs blow teams away this Fall. The clubs attracted a lot of talent and boiled it down to put the top team of 10-11 year olds on the field, their version of a "Dream Team". The big clubs had a larger talent pool, but they don't have a crystal ball. Some top players will continue to be top players but a number of players on the 11-20, 21-30 and even Plano & Arlington leagues will ultimately become just as good or better. As this happens the gap that exists now will narrow. The big clubs will look to the single team clubs as farm teams and try to recruit the top player or two (and drop one of the presently ordained "stars" in the process). Of course, the big teams have good coaches and some parents will wish their bb to be coached by them or just the prestige of playing on a Div I team and will also make the jump. Quality skills coaching, teamwork, injuries, burn-out, other sports, finances and pure luck will shape the ultimate destination of your kids by the time they reach U-19 more than the QT and year 1 game results. Some of the top teams will be looking for national recognition. Some of the teams below them will be looking for the big upsets and have a lot of fun when they get it. But at 10-11, it had still better be about having fun because if its not, at 15-16 it'll be more about girls, cars and "freedom" from the soccer grind.

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  Guest on Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:47 pm

    Just when I was about to buy my own hype you go and send out a message reminding me not too, thanks just in time.

    wayoutwest

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  wayoutwest on Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:06 pm

    Well Middie, I guess that just about sums it all up, I know I couldn't have said it any better.
    One Question, how long have you been around the North Texas Soccer scene? You sure seem to have it figured out.
    I really like the farm team quote.
    It's definitely easier to win when you pluck all the best players from the smaller clubs.
    I'm courious to see how some of them like being the little fish in a big pond.

    DadofDefense

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  DadofDefense on Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:10 am

    Here are the QT results for each week with teams ranked by tournament points first, goal differential second, and one tie breaker between teams #17 and #18.
    It will be interesting to see how the order changes by the end of the year.

    Weekend 1
    TeamTourny PointsGoal Diff
    1Texans - Gall3043
    2TFC - Wells3020
    3FCD Premier3015
    4Bandits2912
    5Wizards2911
    6FCD East2710
    7Andro Red266
    8Solar Red254
    9Solar Partain2417
    10Texans - Craft2410
    Weekend 2
    TeamTourny PointsGoal Diff
    11ASG Gold299
    12Andro White2812
    13Tigres2810
    14Toros2610
    15Tejanos2510
    16Liverpool248
    17Odyssey193Odyssey beat NTxStrikers in Week 1 --- 1 - 0
    18NTxStrikers193
    19TFC White18-1
    20FW Futbol13-1

    DadofDefense

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  DadofDefense on Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:20 am

    Here are the D2 results done the same way for weekend two.

    D2
    TeamTourny PointsGoal Diff
    1FCD - Suarez11-4
    2Longview101
    3Hurst10-5
    4Chivas10-9
    5Texans White8-5
    6Mitlan7-6
    7TFC Blue4-14
    8Comets Badii2-7
    9Kernow Storm1-5
    10Andro McLemore0-9

    gababa

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  gababa on Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:47 am

    So what differentiates the 2 solar teams ? Location ? or is there supposed to be a top and a second team ?

    FlatBack4

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  FlatBack4 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:17 am

    gababa wrote:So what differentiates the 2 solar teams ? Location ? or is there supposed to be a top and a second team ?


    Solar us usually a Dallas / North Dallas team. Solar Red is usually a West Dallas / Arlington / HEB / Fort Worth team. Then again, I've seen Solar Red be mostly Dallas kids too.

    SoccerXXX

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    RE: 00 Rankings

    Post  SoccerXXX on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:20 am

    It is interesting looking at the list of 20 in D1. I will be interested to see how the rankings change over the course of the year.

    Does anyone have any predictions for who will out perform or under perform the list as shown?

    FlatBack4

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  FlatBack4 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:30 am

    SoccerXXX wrote:It is interesting looking at the list of 20 in D1. I will be interested to see how the rankings change over the course of the year.

    Does anyone have any predictions for who will out perform or under perform the list as shown?


    Texans, Solar, Andro, FCD, TFC will all be respresented in D1. One of the "small" clubs may have one or two in D1, but will probably be in D2. Next year, many of those "small" clubs will dispand and scatter to the four winds. Eventually, probably two years from now, D1 and D2 will mostly by bigger club teams with a few small clubs teams mixed in because they have quality coaching.

    Middie 07

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  Middie 07 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:23 pm

    FlatBack4 wrote:
    SoccerXXX wrote:It is interesting looking at the list of 20 in D1. I will be interested to see how the rankings change over the course of the year.

    Does anyone have any predictions for who will out perform or under perform the list as shown?


    Texans, Solar, Andro, FCD, TFC will all be respresented in D1. One of the "small" clubs may have one or two in D1, but will probably be in D2. Next year, many of those "small" clubs will dispand and scatter to the four winds. Eventually, probably two years from now, D1 and D2 will mostly by bigger club teams with a few small clubs teams mixed in because they have quality coaching.


    Do you differentiate between the small clubs like Tejanos, ASG, Strikers, Hurst & Liverpool and those clubs that may not have a team at another age group? Are there any teams not mentioned that fall into the category of those 5?

    FlatBack4

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  FlatBack4 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:43 pm

    Middie 07 wrote:
    FlatBack4 wrote:
    SoccerXXX wrote:It is interesting looking at the list of 20 in D1. I will be interested to see how the rankings change over the course of the year.

    Does anyone have any predictions for who will out perform or under perform the list as shown?


    Texans, Solar, Andro, FCD, TFC will all be respresented in D1. One of the "small" clubs may have one or two in D1, but will probably be in D2. Next year, many of those "small" clubs will dispand and scatter to the four winds. Eventually, probably two years from now, D1 and D2 will mostly by bigger club teams with a few small clubs teams mixed in because they have quality coaching.


    Do you differentiate between the small clubs like Tejanos, ASG, Strikers, Hurst & Liverpool and those clubs that may not have a team at another age group? Are there any teams not mentioned that fall into the category of those 5?


    When I say small clubs, I mean smaller than those you mentioned. I'm talking about the 1-2 team clubs. They just don't seem to have the staying power.

    soccer23

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  soccer23 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:15 pm

    Here are my predictions for D2 for the upcoming season:


    1. FC Dallas Youth (Suarez)
    2. AC Longview (Yoder)
    3. Hurst United SA (Dane)
    4. Kernow Storm FC (Penna)
    5. CD Chivas (Hernandez)
    6. Dallas Texans White (Connell)
    7. Andromeda SC (McLemore)
    8. Mitlan (Posadas)
    9. Comets SC (Badii)
    10. TFC Blue (Garrett)

    Anyone else have thoughts on D2?

    gababa

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  gababa on Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:33 pm

    Comets and Storm Kernow tied 2-2 during round 1. How come one is number 4 and the other number 9 ?

    daskeepa

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  daskeepa on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:26 pm

    Where did the TFC White team come from...they look like a new team....Anyone have thoughts about them being in D1/D2?

    omega striker

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  omega striker on Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:00 pm

    what the heck happened to the Banditos? they have been on top of the 00' heap for years and now?????????

    Middie 07

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  Middie 07 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:11 pm

    soccer23 wrote:Here are my predictions for D2 for the upcoming season:


    1. FC Dallas Youth (Suarez)
    2. AC Longview (Yoder)
    3. Hurst United SA (Dane)
    4. Kernow Storm FC (Penna)
    5. CD Chivas (Hernandez)
    6. Dallas Texans White (Connell)
    7. Andromeda SC (McLemore)
    8. Mitlan (Posadas)
    9. Comets SC (Badii)
    10. TFC Blue (Garrett)

    Anyone else have thoughts on D2?


    TFC Blue is probably not in a relegation position (should be mid-pack) & AC Longview is also mid-pack.

    afrankw

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  afrankw on Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:44 pm

    Middie 07 wrote:
    soccer23 wrote:Here are my predictions for D2 for the upcoming season:


    1. FC Dallas Youth (Suarez)
    2. AC Longview (Yoder)
    3. Hurst United SA (Dane)
    4. Kernow Storm FC (Penna)
    5. CD Chivas (Hernandez)
    6. Dallas Texans White (Connell)
    7. Andromeda SC (McLemore)
    8. Mitlan (Posadas)
    9. Comets SC (Badii)
    10. TFC Blue (Garrett)

    Anyone else have thoughts on D2?


    TFC Blue is probably not in a relegation position (should be mid-pack) & AC Longview is also mid-pack.


    Your comment on TFC Blue is based on, the win over Mansfield in the first round of QT. They played four tournaments this spring and only have two wins over TFC Phillips. They lost to AC Longview 6 - 0 in the QT. They will be in relegation position.

    Middie 07

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  Middie 07 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:45 pm

    afrankw wrote:
    Middie 07 wrote:
    soccer23 wrote:Here are my predictions for D2 for the upcoming season:


    1. FC Dallas Youth (Suarez)
    2. AC Longview (Yoder)
    3. Hurst United SA (Dane)
    4. Kernow Storm FC (Penna)
    5. CD Chivas (Hernandez)
    6. Dallas Texans White (Connell)
    7. Andromeda SC (McLemore)
    8. Mitlan (Posadas)
    9. Comets SC (Badii)
    10. TFC Blue (Garrett)

    Anyone else have thoughts on D2?


    TFC Blue is probably not in a relegation position (should be mid-pack) & AC Longview is also mid-pack.


    Your comment on TFC Blue is based on, the win over Mansfield in the first round of QT. They played four tournaments this spring and only have two wins over TFC Phillips. They lost to AC Longview 6 - 0 in the QT. They will be in relegation position.


    Its based on watching them play. The coach is working on ball distribution and other skills, from what I saw and it will show results this coming season. They obviously aren't there yet but also come from a stronger organization than some of the teams shown above them. I wouldn't put too much stock in the last game of a 2-week qualifier for a team already eliminated from Div I. My main point is that they should not be 9 or 10, probably 6-8. As for Longview, they only scored in 2 of 6 games. As always, it is just an opinion & only time will bear out whether it is right or wrong.

    sumbro

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  sumbro on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 am

    DT White should be top 4. I watched their game against Odyssey and they
    were losing 1 - 0 with 10 min. left. White's coach pulled the tall
    center back they have and moved everyone up to try and score. Odyssey
    put up 3 additional goals in the next 5 minutes or so. That 4 - 0 score
    was misleading.

    afrankw

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  afrankw on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:46 am

    I guess we will see how good DT (Gall) is as they are playing in OK this weekend and playing in the 99 age group in the Gold Division.

    Boys U12 Gold
    Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
    001) SOLAR 99 BOYS RED - - -
    002) EDMOND OFC 99 - - -
    003) DALLAS TEXANS 00B (GALL) - - -
    004) ASG FUTBOL OF DALLAS 99B GOLD NORTH - - -


    Last edited by afrankw on Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:07 pm; edited 1 time in total

    soccer23

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  soccer23 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:56 am

    omega striker wrote:what the heck happened to the Banditos? they have been on top of the 00' heap for years and now?????????


    Indy has Bandits predicted as 5th in D1 (see above). Assuming "Banditos" = Bandits.

    jimulon6

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  jimulon6 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:14 pm

    afrankw wrote:I guess we will see how good DT (Gall) is as they are playing in OK this weekend and playing in the 99 age group in the Gold Division.

    Boys U12 Gold
    Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
    001) SOLAR 99 BOYS RED - - -
    002) EDMOND OFC 99 - - -
    003) DALLAS TEXANS 00B (GALL) - - -
    004) ASG FUTBOL OF DALLAS 99B GOLD NORTH - - -


    What tourney is this?

    gababa

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  gababa on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:20 pm

    jimulon6 wrote:
    afrankw wrote:I guess we will see how good DT (Gall) is as they are playing in OK this weekend and playing in the 99 age group in the Gold Division.

    Boys U12 Gold
    Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
    001) SOLAR 99 BOYS RED - - -
    002) EDMOND OFC 99 - - -
    003) DALLAS TEXANS 00B (GALL) - - -
    004) ASG FUTBOL OF DALLAS 99B GOLD NORTH - - -


    What tourney is this?
    We are talking about Beat the heat in Edmon in OK:http://www.edmondsoccer.com/tourn_info.php

    afrankw

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  afrankw on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:22 pm

    gababa wrote:
    jimulon6 wrote:
    afrankw wrote:I guess we will see how good DT (Gall) is as they are playing in OK this weekend and playing in the 99 age group in the Gold Division.

    Boys U12 Gold
    Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
    001) SOLAR 99 BOYS RED - - -
    002) EDMOND OFC 99 - - -
    003) DALLAS TEXANS 00B (GALL) - - -
    004) ASG FUTBOL OF DALLAS 99B GOLD NORTH - - -


    What tourney is this?
    We are talking about Beat the heat in Edmon in OK:http://www.edmondsoccer.com/tourn_info.php


    Gotsoccer link
    https://www.gotsport.com/(S(dco14y45sihzubv2jf2bcu55))/events/default.aspx?EventID=9012

    omega striker

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  omega striker on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:34 pm

    afrankw wrote:I guess we will see how good DT (Gall) is as they are playing in OK this weekend and playing in the 99 age group in the Gold Division.

    Boys U12 Gold
    Team 1 Team 2 Team 3 Team 4 Points Finish
    001) SOLAR 99 BOYS RED - - -
    002) EDMOND OFC 99 - - -
    003) DALLAS TEXANS 00B (GALL) - - -
    004) ASG FUTBOL OF DALLAS 99B GOLD NORTH - - -
    they will get beat probably every game

    soccerdad1

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  soccerdad1 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:39 pm

    "If" they get beat maybe it will bring the team back down to earth after blowing out teams in QT.

    omega striker

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    Re: 00 Rankings

    Post  omega striker on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:56 pm

    soccerdad1 wrote:"If" they get beat maybe it will bring the team back down to earth after blowing out teams in QT.
    more then likely!

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