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Is the Club right or wrong?

Post by 04Soccerdad on 5/18/2017, 2:00 pm

I had a conversation with a coworker today at lunch. He received an email this morning regarding the coach for his son's team. The coach recently announced to the team that he will be leaving the club (we'll call it club A) and moving to a new club (club B) in June.

The manager offered to give the team a list of coaches if they want to stay with club A and help them find a team that would be a fit. If they wanted, they could follow him to club B. As we all know, parents are going to do whatever they want. Some stay at a club just for the name of the club and others will follow the coach.

Today, club A sent an email to all of the parents stating that the coach is no longer with the club effective immediately. Basically, he was fired. Club A is going to name a new coach to take over and continue training through June. They also offered to find a new team as well.

Is the club right for firing the coach? For me personally, it would piss me off. We're so close to the end, what difference does it make? The kids may or may not follow him. Getting rid of him now does not change that. What do you think?

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Post by Number13 on 5/18/2017, 2:13 pm

I think that is pretty common. Not just in that job but in any job. If you are going to leave to work for a competitor, we'd like you to leave immediately.



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Re: Is the Club right or wrong?

Post by Socceropath on 5/18/2017, 2:28 pm

I think from a business standpoint it makes total sense for the club to plant a seed of doubt in the parents mind about the outgoing coach. In addition to lost revenue, an entire team leaving hurts the clubs reputation as well. The ability to keep even 2-3 players is a huge win for the club in that situation. If a solid core remains with the club, the coach ends up looking pretty bad.

If you want to make an ethical argument, you can't because ethics don't exist in NTX soccer!

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Post by Uncleof05AP on 5/18/2017, 3:03 pm

Clearly, the club was acting in the best interest of the children.  In making these decisions, the club is rarely making a business decision.  It is always about the children.   You can say a lot about North Texas soccer, but you cannot say it is about the money for the big clubs.

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Post by bigtex75081 on 5/18/2017, 3:37 pm

I side with the club here.

I don't know about other industries but I work in IT. If someone is terminated at the companies I deal with, they literally walk you out of the building IMMEDIATELY after you're notified. They do not want an angry ex-employee with intimate knowledge of their systems to have access any further. They do not want people tampering.

If the coach is leaving, why should the club allow him extra time for tampering? What positive outcomes would there be for the club?

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Post by TayJ6 on 5/18/2017, 3:53 pm

Business is business. Sounds normal to me. As the coach, it is not your privilege to take the team with you when you leave...that's not say it doesn't happen. There is no benefit to the club for the coach to stay out the season (or off-season). They need to get a new coach in and move on.

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Post by crazyET on 5/18/2017, 4:10 pm

Pretty common across industries and professions. If a lawyer gets canned at our firm or even says they are leaving voluntarily, they escort him/her out the door that day and change the code to the staff entrance. You don't want lawyers poaching clients any more than a club wants coaches poaching players. It's called damage control.
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Post by Riquelme Rises on 5/18/2017, 5:00 pm

Club wins!! Fatality!!!
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Re: Is the Club right or wrong?

Post by 04Soccerdad on 5/18/2017, 5:36 pm

True, club wins regardless. However, every team has a way to communicate weather it's email or TeamSnap. The club doesn't have control of that so the coach still has access to the players. I've been in this situation before. Some follow the coach and some stay with the club. I don't think a coach is going to be able to sway a person to follow that doesn't want to.

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Post by nearpost95 on 5/18/2017, 6:31 pm

very common.  the instance it becomes known, if a Classic bye is involved, the club fires the departing coach and assigns a new coach in an effort to keep the team, but more importantly the bye.  the club will make every effort to keep at least 25% of the players from following the coach as he needs 75% to take the bye with him.  then there may be 2 teams advertising open spots for the same bye, and neither can legitimately make the claim, and end result won't truly be known until signing day.

coach is either making a new start or is reasonably sure he'll get the 75%.

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Re: Is the Club right or wrong?

Post by winkipop77 on 5/18/2017, 9:04 pm

If this "Club A" wasn't paying the coach in a timely manner, and the full amount due, then I would say the club is wrong, and the coach is right for leaving.  But this type of shady, unethical and greedy tactic of course would be extremely rare in NTX soccer, especially by the larger clubs where it really is all about the kids, and not the money as someone stated earlier.

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