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Classic Tourney Round 2 Results

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Post by SOCCER TRUTH on 6/12/2017, 6:58 am

Anyone know why Round 2 results haven't been posted? All other age groups announced the teams moving up in the Fall except U15.

Hmmmmm. Am I smelling a controversy brewing??

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something happened and no one is saying anything

Post by XcelexSoccer on 6/12/2017, 11:56 am

Why did no one from bracket D advance. Elite united finished with 22pts and bracket winner. If they did something wrong to advanced and where DQ should not the other teams get the forfeit pts. It would mean a 3way tie but you should not punish the other teams for what 1 team did.

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Re: Classic Tourney Round 2 Results

Post by SOCCER TRUTH on 6/12/2017, 1:54 pm

Agree. Pure BS!!

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Re: Classic Tourney Round 2 Results

Post by Mavsfanatic on 6/12/2017, 3:00 pm

CCSAI owes these teams an explanation. If there was unethical behavior taking place this weekend, I'd like to know.

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Re: Classic Tourney Round 2 Results

Post by XcelexSoccer on 6/12/2017, 3:21 pm

They seem to be staying quiet on the subject. No response to the questions being asked. It even states in their own rules if a team violates and uses an illegal player they FORFEIT ALL games. Meaning all 3 teams in group D have 18pts which is higher then the 2 other wildcard teams taken.
Arsenal NW (Elite) - 16pts
Dallas Texans (FTW)- 20pts
FCD Central - 14pts
FCD N Blue -18pts
FCD West - 22 pts
FPS- 23 Pts
That is 3 bracket winners and 3 high pts when Elite United had 22 pts and not included in Classic 3 advancement meaning they did something to get DQ.

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Re: Classic Tourney Round 2 Results

Post by truthseeker on 6/12/2017, 4:13 pm

I believe forfeits are scored 1-0 are they not? This would give the teams 8 points for their wins not 10. If this is the case it would result in a 4 way tie for teams with 16 points each (Arsenal and the teams from bracket D). Not sure how FCD Central got the tiebreaker.

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Re: Classic Tourney Round 2 Results

Post by Marvelousmar on 6/12/2017, 4:43 pm

As they say I have no dog in this hunt. But the league has a lot of things to sort out related to this issue and this process. ( I think I have had this rant a few years back though it seems like it is just yesterday)

The process should be clear well before the first kick as to reduce the appearance of favors and for the integrity of the league.

The process has built in reality TV show to occur. Example if it rains. No comment on when the rain out would be made up. ( It seems to always rain) Does it appear fair that teams get rest and have to play other teams with less rest for example. Was the seeding correct for round 1 or round 2. No matter what you do Classic league is going to have an issue. However, they need to do their best to be consistent and provide the best possibility for fairness. ( I argue the rain because I think it messed our side up every side that played a 8PM match followed by an 8AM match against a fresh side that didn't have an match the Saturday lost) I could bring up another drama similar to the current one from years gone by but I'll keep my mouth shut cause that caused much pain.

So what is the correct answer in this scenario to bring the best teams from the 14 into the final 6 in round 2. If you look at the play on the field it's probably the right 6, if you look at the results and the rules ( which are clear on this point) your left with Teams from bracket D at a what the heck is going on camp.

I have a suggestion. Replay the entire 02 bracket again. (Now isn't that self serving.....) Think all the seeding would be adjusted if Elite wasn't in it, the whole 02 bracket was effected.

I say that in a joke however, to Jeanie's defense ( I can't believe I am saying this out loud) no matter what she does someone is going to be negatively effected by this decision, I really feel for the league on this one. Good luck to all of the teams that were given invites. ( key word there) and the teams in Bracket D that will be complaining about the league on this one.
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Re: Classic Tourney Round 2 Results

Post by nearpost95 on 6/12/2017, 4:55 pm

What a mess.

It is possible that Elite was DQ'ed for a reason other than an ineligible player and the games were not forfeited.

Otherwise...

Removing/adjusting the Elite U games from the bracket, Liverpool and Xcelex would be tied for top of bracket by goals scored after 3rd tiebreak is applied and Tigres would be 3rd.

Accordingly, the catch-all "Tournament committee decision" comes into play. (This is not Jeanie despite assertion of previous post.)

Again what a mess.  

The ultimate catch-all: Classic League is an invitational league and it reserves the right to invite/disinvite any teams.
The published list is of the teams that will be invited by Classic to play in the 2017/18 league.

You have a group D where none of the 3 remaining  teams distinguished themselves, none won any actual games and scored just 3 actual goals between them.  I suppose that did not help their case.

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