randee42 wrote:soccerboy9 wrote:I think you must accept that the Mexican boys or hispanic boys definitly are better than us,they play with the heart and they feel the game, our son's maybe have more $$ but no more talent, and personality I see USA boys look bigger on teams like FCD,Andromeda,Hurst United etc. and nobody says anything!, in the other hand the NTSA have the birth certificate,those boys are in 8th grade so I feel emberassed when Tigres,Irvin Elite, Rayados Monterrey win and we say its because they are older than our son's!!!!!!!!!That is not right. Please we need to win them on the field with no excuses!! with all do respect that is what I think.
Ok, I was teasing a bit about the Tigres and their man-child players. True, I think some of the boys grow faster than others and the Tigres have cornered the market on some of those. That being said, my son is a big mexican but some of those boys make him look like he is in 4th grade. My rule of thumb, if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and walks like a duck, well then it is not a chicken.
I do think part of it is cultural, some of the hispanic boys are born with a soccer ball on their foot; where as in the states, not so much. I know soccer was not the sport my BB was involved in nor did we ever think his chunky little body would ever play select. Passion is bred into from the family and soccer is def the "it" sport in latin american so their is much more passion involved into it.
That being said, I do have a bit of a negative feeling about the 97 Tigres, they play dirty and have a bad rep. Bad rep may be just to the 97's but I have personally witnessed the dirty play. Additionally, I know enough Spanish to know they are not telling my son "good job" in Spanish when they are yelling at him... Irving Elite is big but I would not say abnormally large. I like IE, they play fair, tough and have a great coach that will ensure his team wins with respect. My son's old team played IE several times and they played a bit aggressive but I would never say they played dirty. Not sure about the Monterrey team, I was them play a bit in Plano and did not think they were any different from any other team.
I've been thinking a bit about these post'.... IMO I think that maybe these 13-14 year old Mexican boys on these said teams look older than they are is because they are older....Not by age, but mentally that is. Here is my theory.. I think a-lot of these boys are asked to do a lot more than just go to school, get good grades, and play soccer.
Many if these kids are helping around the house with siblings, serious household duties, and some of these young men are probably already working with dad, or relatives on their free time. Many are having to be the liaison between their parents, and the English speaking world.
We are products of our environment.Our culture calls for us to be men way before it is our natural time. These man-childs as many of you call them is what they are. I know because I was one. As a 14 year old I was one of the oldest looking kids in my class, I had a mustache and a part time job washing dishes on the weekends.... On top of anything else that was being asked from me at home... My parents are a lot like the parents I see out there with these boys in question.... My folks needed my help.
This is why I think some of these kids look older than what they are. They are being asked to do way more than most of the other kids, their bodies adjust to their mindset pretty quick...
I know what you are saying randee42, I've seen your son when both our kids were training with the same team earlier this summer. Yes he is big, but not a manchild by any means. He like my son still have that kid look to them. That is because I think we are raising them a little different than the way we were. My sons' only 3 jobs are school, household chores i.e. throwing out trash, cleaning around the house... And soccer... That's it... I look at my son and think, there us no way this 13 yr old kid could do what I was doing at 13.
That is because unlike my parents, I don't need my son to translate for me when we are out and about, I don't need him to watch his siblings while I am at work, he doesn't need to know how to have dinner ready for his mom and I when we get home from work. And the list goes on and on... He is growing up an all American boy.... Enjoying his childhood... It is still very hard for me to justify to myself the amount of money I am paying for both my kids to play select soccer this year... But it is something that my folks could not do for me, and I am glad that my wife and I can give this to our kids.
My point is there is a pretty good gap in the income on these teams in question compared to lets say some of the 4 big names out there... All these teams have big kids on them, but they still look like kids... IMO it's because most of their parents are better off financially than parents on teams in question... They are growing up "All American Boys" I don't think it's got anything to do with having a ball at your feet since birth...
These are just the cards we are dealt in life. We can choose to repeat the cycle or change it for the better.. Bb played against the Tigres today, I did see some boys that looked a little older than our boys. I don't think they were though. They are probably just being asked to do more than get good grades and go to soccer practice during the week. But hey guess what? We don't grow much after this... lol... I never grew another inch after the 8th grade... Go figure right... So this time next year most of those said teams will be looking over at the predominantly and I quote "USA" Teams and say to themselves " Those are some big a$$ kids"....
The difference in sizes will level off sooner rather than later.... The man-childs of today will be the short guys of tomorrow, with a few exceptions here and there...
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