Just found out today that the clubs are breaking up and going their own ways, that being said my sons coach said the club (Longhorns) is likely going to fire him. Our manager told us that if everyone on the team wants to move with him to another club, we would be able to, but if just one kid does not want to follow him the rest of the team, will have to stay with the Longhorns and they will find a new coach for us. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation? We really like this coach, and want to follow him if possible, but are under contract with the Longhorns. He has already been approached by Solar, Andromeda, TFC, and ASG about moving his teams over.

mcc78 wrote:Just found out today that the clubs are breaking up and going their own ways, that being said my sons coach said the club (Longhorns) is likely going to fire him. Our manager told us that if everyone on the team wants to move with him to another club, we would be able to, but if just one kid does not want to follow him the rest of the team, will have to stay with the Longhorns and they will find a new coach for us. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation? We really like this coach, and want to follow him if possible, but are under contract with the Longhorns. He has already been approached by Solar, Andromeda, TFC, and ASG about moving his teams over.

This may not be relevant to your issue, but really...Who cares....When the Longhorns recruit a 98B/DIII player away from his team..courted through May and June...futsal and tournaments and then offered no contract, what do you really expect?...the BB, who deserves to play is sitting out and not playing soccer at all....a really gifted boy who should be playing every Saturday...WAY TO GO LONGHORNS...or AYSES or WHATEVER..

You don't say what age or league this is (Classic, Plano, Arlington) but in the case of Classic, the rule is clear. 75% of the team must leave the club in order for the team to keep the bye. Otherwise the club keeps the bye.

There is also the issue of money. Some amount of money has been paid to the club by the players, and it's very likely that none of it will be returned.

mcc78 wrote:Just found out today that the clubs are breaking up and going their own ways, that being said my sons coach said the club (Longhorns) is likely going to fire him. Our manager told us that if everyone on the team wants to move with him to another club, we would be able to, but if just one kid does not want to follow him the rest of the team, will have to stay with the Longhorns and they will find a new coach for us. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation? We really like this coach, and want to follow him if possible, but are under contract with the Longhorns. He has already been approached by Solar, Andromeda, TFC, and ASG about moving his teams over.

Just went through this with my dd's coach. He took a job as DOC with another club, had an academy and select team. The academy team could do whatever they wanted. The select team all had to sign an NTSSA paper stating they are going with the new team. He offered to release anyone at the end of the season if they didn't want to join the new club. Everyone agreed - we all like the coach and they are top teams.

There really is no choice - if you decide to be a hold out - you are alienating your child and harming all the other kids. Who wants to be stuck on a team not knowing anything about the new coach the club would select?

All the clubs mentioned are good clubs IMO - so, I don't really think that would be an issue - just make sure you get a good deal on uniforms and fees as the timing isn't too great from that standpoint.

Wow - didn't the Ayses just finish a nasty divorce from Andromeda only a couple or three years ago? Maybe the Ayses should consider staying single

cornerkick96 wrote:Wow - didn't the Ayses just finish a nasty divorce from Andromeda only a couple or three years ago? Maybe the Ayses should consider staying single

Divorces can be so difficult on the kids. Ayses can try just living with another club for a while before actually getting married.

Ibra wrote:

mcc78 wrote:Just found out today that the clubs are breaking up and going their own ways, that being said my sons coach said the club (Longhorns) is likely going to fire him. Our manager told us that if everyone on the team wants to move with him to another club, we would be able to, but if just one kid does not want to follow him the rest of the team, will have to stay with the Longhorns and they will find a new coach for us. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation? We really like this coach, and want to follow him if possible, but are under contract with the Longhorns. He has already been approached by Solar, Andromeda, TFC, and ASG about moving his teams over.

This may not be relevant to your issue, but really...Who cares....When the Longhorns recruit a 98B/DIII player away from his team..courted through May and June...futsal and tournaments and then offered no contract, what do you really expect?...the BB, who deserves to play is sitting out and not playing soccer at all....a really gifted boy who should be playing every Saturday...WAY TO GO LONGHORNS...or AYSES or WHATEVER..

Okaayyy, and to the point of the post.

Sammy is tough to nail down. He will have his own club, and that is all there is to it!!

mcc78 you have a simple decision, stay with your team or it will not survive based on the 100% rule that applies to inter-club transfers of teams during the season.

homer999 wrote:

cornerkick96 wrote:Wow - didn't the Ayses just finish a nasty divorce from Andromeda only a couple or three years ago? Maybe the Ayses should consider staying single

Divorces can be so difficult on the kids. Ayses can try just living with another club for a while before actually getting married.

DQ's all of ya!!

Let the Ayses flag fly high ... again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqJLSuynB9o&feature=related

OnTheSurface wrote:You don't say what age or league this is (Classic, Plano, Arlington) but in the case of Classic, the rule is clear. 75% of the team must leave the club in order for the team to keep the bye. Otherwise the club keeps the bye.

There is also the issue of money. Some amount of money has been paid to the club by the players, and it's very likely that none of it will be returned.

The 75% rule applies to the bye invitation only and is a CL rule. The 100% rule is a NTX rule and this is the one that applies in this case.

not surprised this happened....the merger was done at the last minute without much forethought. Sammy is a great guy and a wonderful coach. Shame he did not surround himself with coaches of the same caliber. The 98boy coach is all about winning at all costs. Some of the parents are the ones running the team, not the coach. No integrity!

soccer4me wrote:not surprised this happened....the merger was done at the last minute without much forethought. Sammy is a great guy and a wonderful coach. Shame he did not surround himself with coaches of the same caliber. The 98boy coach is all about winning at all costs. Some of the parents are the ones running the team, not the coach. No integrity!

Isn't there 2 or 3 98B teams at the combined club? It's hard to tell since there is both an AYSES & Longhorns website. Folks mentioned this merger would be challenging when it was announced given the reputation of the Longhorns board members. What is the history with the board members?

There were 2 98B teams; one of which was an original LH team and the other Ayses. I was refering to the Ayses one.....

soccer4me wrote:not surprised this happened....the merger was done at the last minute without much forethought. Sammy is a great guy and a wonderful coach. Shame he did not surround himself with coaches of the same caliber. The 98boy coach is all about winning at all costs. Some of the parents are the ones running the team, not the coach. No integrity!

yes, that coach is not an honorable person. It's too bad that he has been allowed to sully the reputation of the development program Sammy has built over the years. The coach claims to be his own man but his actions are generally directed by his recruiting department (a couple parents who own the team). As for the poor kid that was duped into believing he had a spot...you probably now know you are better off not playing for that coach.

Which coach are you referring too on the 98 Boys - the orange teams coach or the gold teams coach?

TxHunter wrote:Which coach are you referring too on the 98 Boys - the orange teams coach or the gold teams coach?

GOLD

Interesting - I have not seen that in the coach you are referring. I have seen win at all costs coaches and I would not categorize him as one of those.

TxHunter wrote:Interesting - I have not seen that in the coach you are referring. I have seen win at all costs coaches and I would not categorize him as one of those.

Trust me he is - it's all about recruiting players, not developing them. It's fine as long as you state your true intentions not lie about developing players. Sammy should have fired him years ago as he is the antithesis of the club's direction.

The coach that the bitter parent is referring to is the most honorable coach and person I have experienced in 14 years. He develops his players to their full potential, he completely cares about them, loves soccer, and he places a higher regard to playing good soccer than winning a game. Isn't it sad when parents let their bitterness creep into their morals and allow them to spread untrue characteristics about a person.

soccer_08 wrote:The coach that the bitter parent is referring to is the most honorable coach and person I have experienced in 14 years. He develops his players to their full potential, he completely cares about them, loves soccer, and he places a higher regard to playing good soccer than winning a game. Isn't it sad when parents let their bitterness creep into their morals and allow them to spread untrue characteristics about a person.

Soccer_08 = 98 Gold coach? -- I did notice your only other post with any significant contribution to a topic said: http://www.txsoccer.info/general-soccer-discussion-f2/andromeda-bait-and-switch-t2011.htm

"I would check out Andro's reputation, it is rampant with theft and switching coaches with out notice, and financial trouble and you will get no support from the club. Be very careful if you work for AAC, as is stated that you should on your contract, that money disappears also and again the club does nothing to get it back."

So everything written is fact with evidence so your point is?

oops

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soccer_08 wrote:So everything written is fact with evidence so your point is?

Point is your last post said something about bitterness and spreading untrue characteristics about people, yet your only other post is about Andromeda allegedly "theft", etc. Now you say its "fact with evidence"? Just sounds like it might be bitterness over something, and possibly like maybe you are spreading untrue characteristics about people.

Does that make the point more clear?

No, if you will investigate Andromedas books and reputation you will discover that the mananger from one(that there is proof) of the teams stole money, the person responsible for the American Airlines center kept the payout that American Airlines paid out instead of paying the workers, it is fact, not bitterness. And your post represent??????????

Now which is the real TL 98 Gold coach? I heard complaints last year that he gave all his players fairly equal playing time in games and that he gave free skills sessions. Which is it? Development or pretty much the same as the other "dishonorable" coaches who want to win? Some of ya'lls experiences must be different than mine. Isn't it pretty standard for coaches to try out players in May and June?

Dont know who any of you guys are, but I would be careful posting allegations (whether true or not) about clubs and their inner workings. They may have better lawyers that you. Seriously.

And who exactly are their good lawyers going to go after?

It's not libel (or slander) if it's true.


PS: No dog in this hunt, just sayin'.

soccer_08 wrote:And who exactly are their good lawyers going to go after?

Hopefully nobody. Hey, not meant to be a challenge. I just wouldnt be that gutsy--Each to his own. And I know the difference between slander and libel. I am assuming you may not have every detail EXACTLY as it happened.