eagle wrote:

FlatBack4 wrote:

Yak Attack wrote:

Freeatlast wrote:I think that was a response to your "poor me, I'm white so I can't play for FCD". Oh and TBBD that is one of the problems we have in soccer development. We base it on peoples ability to pay not on their talent and abilities. FCD's priorities should be on finding and developing the best talent in the area. Clearly he has not seen his club first hand.

Can't agree here. The latest development of the U16/U18 Academy has moved these types of influences even further from the sport.

Rightback wrote:

Wouldn't matter to me if some club wanted to only target left-handed players of Estonian descent, it is a private business, but who is the "we" you mention who should be finding and developing the best talent "without regard to ability to pay?" Who IS going to pay to develop kids? The government? Benevolent businessmen? Crime syndicates? And if someone wants to pay for training, would clubs be banned from agreeing to do that? I don't understand the implied obligation for someone to pay to train other people's kids. As far as "finding" talent, I hope that FC Dallas (the pro club, not the youth) is scouting for the best players they can find and afford all the time. But they don't have any obligation that I know of to pay to develop youth. If they want to, fine, but it isn't their duty. It probably isn't even the duty of the kids' parents. Soccer is a sport, therefore a luxury item.

The FCD professional club is funding their Academy. This has nothing to do with FCD club/select. In fact I'd say the FCD club will continue along as it is, run as a separate entity. While I've seen no official announcement, Academy will be starting up a U14 group. Once that happens you will see FCD create their own youth development. It is the only way to develop the talent for the future pro ranks.

go99 wrote: Well, the words quoted by Fabiano could be read as non-racist. He may just be saying that they are building an Academy which reflects the local demographics, or maybe the demographics of the local soccer community, which includes a large percentage of "hispanics" compared to other parts of the country. On the other hand, maybe he assumes that "hispanics" are better soccer players, but what federal law is violated if a team decides to send its scouts to a certain ethnic community because it thinks more good recruits may be found there?

I guess I didn't even read anything there that said non-hispanics wouldn't be welcome if they are talented. It just says their team has a lot of hispanics. May just be a fact.

Simply put, I'd say his reference to Hispanics is about the passion and desire to be future pros. The average north of Dallas kid is looking for at best college soccer. What is the point of FCD putting $$ towards that. Where's the payback??


In fact this debate got me looking and found this:

http://www.fcdallasyouth.com/Development-of-home-grown-players-the-way-forward-for-MLS.aspx

Wow... a pro-FCD article on the FCD website.

I will have to admit, tho, Luna is a stud. The other local "darlings" are just a waste of effort. There's just too much tunnelvision around here.

This might be a telling quote from Hunt.

"I love the Chivas-Guadalajara model of having players all from Mexico," FC Dallas owner Dan Hunt said.

They can quit calling my American ass to try to sell their tickets.

FlatBack4 wrote:
Wow... a pro-FCD article on the FCD website.

I will have to admit, tho, Luna is a stud. The other local "darlings" are just a waste of effort. There's just too much tunnelvision around here.

Yak Attack wrote:

FlatBack4 wrote:
Wow... a pro-FCD article on the FCD website.

I will have to admit, tho, Luna is a stud. The other local "darlings" are just a waste of effort. There's just too much tunnelvision around here.

Uhh no, SI.COM:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tobias_lopez/09/02/mls.academy/index.html#ixzz0yPgcfT4E

And so Luna is a stud but everything else is crap.

TheFarPost wrote:
I've noticed FCD has rostered 4 MLS players on there U/18 Academy team.

They are high school grads being paid professionally and taking the spots of up and coming players that need to develop.

Is it about winning or developing.

Is this fair or did they add these Academy players to the MLS for show and are they going to get any playing time.

Luna gave up a full ride to SMU to go professional. So why is he on the U/18 Development Academy.

go99 wrote:Actually 3 of the 4 have made their debut with the pro team. FC Dallas should make a team to play in USL and use that to get the reserve players minutes

twotone wrote:

eagle wrote:

FlatBack4 wrote:

Yak Attack wrote:

Freeatlast wrote:I think that was a response to your "poor me, I'm white so I can't play for FCD". Oh and TBBD that is one of the problems we have in soccer development. We base it on peoples ability to pay not on their talent and abilities. FCD's priorities should be on finding and developing the best talent in the area. Clearly he has not seen his club first hand.

Can't agree here. The latest development of the U16/U18 Academy has moved these types of influences even further from the sport.

Rightback wrote:

Wouldn't matter to me if some club wanted to only target left-handed players of Estonian descent, it is a private business, but who is the "we" you mention who should be finding and developing the best talent "without regard to ability to pay?" Who IS going to pay to develop kids? The government? Benevolent businessmen? Crime syndicates? And if someone wants to pay for training, would clubs be banned from agreeing to do that? I don't understand the implied obligation for someone to pay to train other people's kids. As far as "finding" talent, I hope that FC Dallas (the pro club, not the youth) is scouting for the best players they can find and afford all the time. But they don't have any obligation that I know of to pay to develop youth. If they want to, fine, but it isn't their duty. It probably isn't even the duty of the kids' parents. Soccer is a sport, therefore a luxury item.

The FCD professional club is funding their Academy. This has nothing to do with FCD club/select. In fact I'd say the FCD club will continue along as it is, run as a separate entity. While I've seen no official announcement, Academy will be starting up a U14 group. Once that happens you will see FCD create their own youth development. It is the only way to develop the talent for the future pro ranks.

go99 wrote: Well, the words quoted by Fabiano could be read as non-racist. He may just be saying that they are building an Academy which reflects the local demographics, or maybe the demographics of the local soccer community, which includes a large percentage of "hispanics" compared to other parts of the country. On the other hand, maybe he assumes that "hispanics" are better soccer players, but what federal law is violated if a team decides to send its scouts to a certain ethnic community because it thinks more good recruits may be found there?

I guess I didn't even read anything there that said non-hispanics wouldn't be welcome if they are talented. It just says their team has a lot of hispanics. May just be a fact.

Simply put, I'd say his reference to Hispanics is about the passion and desire to be future pros. The average north of Dallas kid is looking for at best college soccer. What is the point of FCD putting $$ towards that. Where's the payback??


In fact this debate got me looking and found this:

http://www.fcdallasyouth.com/Development-of-home-grown-players-the-way-forward-for-MLS.aspx

Wow... a pro-FCD article on the FCD website.

I will have to admit, tho, Luna is a stud. The other local "darlings" are just a waste of effort. There's just too much tunnelvision around here.

This might be a telling quote from Hunt.

"I love the Chivas-Guadalajara model of having players all from Mexico," FC Dallas owner Dan Hunt said.

They can quit calling my American ass to try to sell their tickets.

i think you muse have mis-interpreted that quote from Dan. i read it as the Chivas model is cool for the Mexican team there and FC Dallas can duplicate it in the USA. Chivas builds its players from youth to pro and only plays Mexican players. FCD can build its players from youth to pro using Dallas/Texan players. at least thats what i got

Turftoe96 wrote:The only people that care about race are racist.
If your kid is a stud, any club or team will accept him with open arms and a free ride.

go99 wrote:In team building chemistry matters in soccer development it does not. If you are developing future talent the you take the best you can find, develope them the best you can. Because they will be moved on and judged as individuals not as a cohesive unit. So depends on what your final goal is. Win games or produce a product of value in the soccer world. Two different objective with 2 totally different approaches required.

Fabiano9 wrote:Good to hear FCD beat the mighty Solar 98 today.
Congrats to the boys & coaches.
Making Papi Pareja proud.