The Marcus and Jesuit banter continues over the game last year. Carry on as both teams are not as strong this year.

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:With district nearing the halfway mark, it looks like the areas strongest 5A will be:

7-5A
8-5A
5-5A

Should be a great second half and revenge factors for some.

You have a firm grasp on the obvious. SL Carroll, Coppell and Keller ISD in 7-5A. Lewisville ISD and Plano schools in 8-5A. 5-5 not so much with the exceptions of Legacy. Whatever districts have SLC, Coppell, Plano ISD and Lewisville ISD will always dominate the boys and girls high schools soccer scene. Throwing out Jesuit (private schools don't play by the exact same rules as the rest of us), schools in 8-5A have won the last three state 5A boys titles.

I'm curious as to your revenge factors - who against who?

Every year is different. I know you are still bitter about Jesuit not letting Marcus advance last year. The UIL will not take it away. 5-5A is coming on as a district this year. Legacy, Midlothian, Duncanville all have 10+ wins.

Now that most teams have played everyone once in district, I am sure there are several teams that want REVENGE in the second round of district play. Plano vs Marcus? Coppell Vs Southlake? Keller vs Southlake? Midlothian vs Legacy?

All of these have district championship implications.

Jesuit didn't disallow our second goal in that game last year, the refs did. Jesuit got lucky which is one of things you need to win state.

I order to have a goal disallowed you have to score it first. Marcus never scored a second goal in the game. Got close, just couldn't get it in. Great save by the Jesuit keeper.

Baloney. We have two seperate videos and a still picture showing it in the goal. The goal keeper did a great acting job!!!!!! We know it was a goal and so does he. Poor kid!

Just curious since I wasn't there. Is your camera shot right ON the goal line or from an angle near midfield? Unless it's on the goal line, your video and picture are inconclusive and don't mean much.

Doesn't matter of the angle...ITOOTR

THE NEEDLE wrote:The Marcus and Jesuit banter continues over the game last year. Carry on as both teams are not as strong this year.

DISAGREE MAN.

HOW TEETH DOING?

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:With district nearing the halfway mark, it looks like the areas strongest 5A will be:

7-5A
8-5A
5-5A

Should be a great second half and revenge factors for some.

You have a firm grasp on the obvious. SL Carroll, Coppell and Keller ISD in 7-5A. Lewisville ISD and Plano schools in 8-5A. 5-5 not so much with the exceptions of Legacy. Whatever districts have SLC, Coppell, Plano ISD and Lewisville ISD will always dominate the boys and girls high schools soccer scene. Throwing out Jesuit (private schools don't play by the exact same rules as the rest of us), schools in 8-5A have won the last three state 5A boys titles.

I'm curious as to your revenge factors - who against who?

Every year is different. I know you are still bitter about Jesuit not letting Marcus advance last year. The UIL will not take it away. 5-5A is coming on as a district this year. Legacy, Midlothian, Duncanville all have 10+ wins.

Now that most teams have played everyone once in district, I am sure there are several teams that want REVENGE in the second round of district play. Plano vs Marcus? Coppell Vs Southlake? Keller vs Southlake? Midlothian vs Legacy?

All of these have district championship implications.

Jesuit didn't disallow our second goal in that game last year, the refs did. Jesuit got lucky which is one of things you need to win state.

I order to have a goal disallowed you have to score it first. Marcus never scored a second goal in the game. Got close, just couldn't get it in. Great save by the Jesuit keeper.

Baloney. We have two seperate videos and a still picture showing it in the goal. Aubrey did a great acting job!!!!!! We know it was a goal and so does he. Poor kid!

The wonderful thing about refs is they don't care who wins. They just call the game as they see it.

I too have a video of the play. And it is easy to see the ball hit the keepers foot, clearly planted in front of the touch line and the ball bouncing straight up (shame on you for calling out a plyer by name). Never crossing into the goal. The conspiracy theory still exists. I suppose you were shooting from the grassy knoll. I suppose you also have footage of the last goal hitting the football goal post instead of hitting the crossbar. So it shouldn't have counted either. Conspiracy number two.

But then I could counter with the footage I have of Jesuit scoring a goal in the second half when the keeper was out and one of the Marcus players was clearly standing inside of the goal and heading the ball out as you see the Jesuit players celebrating the scoring of the goal. Lines judge ruled the ENTIRE ball didn't cross into the goal. Oh well. I guess he blew both goals. Oops my bad, different lines judge. Or maybe I could bring up when Jesuit scored a goal in the first half when one of the Marcus fullbacks tripped over his own feet and fell down. And the ref disallowed the goal. In this case disallowed is correct as the ball HIT the back of the net. So I'll give you your goal if you give me my two. Same outcome.

Some great matchups tonight...Go attend a game this evening!

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:With district nearing the halfway mark, it looks like the areas strongest 5A will be:

7-5A
8-5A
5-5A

Should be a great second half and revenge factors for some.

You have a firm grasp on the obvious. SL Carroll, Coppell and Keller ISD in 7-5A. Lewisville ISD and Plano schools in 8-5A. 5-5 not so much with the exceptions of Legacy. Whatever districts have SLC, Coppell, Plano ISD and Lewisville ISD will always dominate the boys and girls high schools soccer scene. Throwing out Jesuit (private schools don't play by the exact same rules as the rest of us), schools in 8-5A have won the last three state 5A boys titles.

I'm curious as to your revenge factors - who against who?

Every year is different. I know you are still bitter about Jesuit not letting Marcus advance last year. The UIL will not take it away. 5-5A is coming on as a district this year. Legacy, Midlothian, Duncanville all have 10+ wins.

Now that most teams have played everyone once in district, I am sure there are several teams that want REVENGE in the second round of district play. Plano vs Marcus? Coppell Vs Southlake? Keller vs Southlake? Midlothian vs Legacy?

All of these have district championship implications.

Jesuit didn't disallow our second goal in that game last year, the refs did. Jesuit got lucky which is one of things you need to win state.

I order to have a goal disallowed you have to score it first. Marcus never scored a second goal in the game. Got close, just couldn't get it in. Great save by the Jesuit keeper.

Baloney. We have two seperate videos and a still picture showing it in the goal. Aubrey did a great acting job!!!!!! We know it was a goal and so does he. Poor kid!

The wonderful thing about refs is they don't care who wins. They just call the game as they see it.

I too have a video of the play. And it is easy to see the ball hit the keepers foot, clearly planted in front of the touch line and the ball bouncing straight up (shame on you for calling out a plyer by name). Never crossing into the goal. The conspiracy theory still exists. I suppose you were shooting from the grassy knoll. I suppose you also have footage of the last goal hitting the football goal post instead of hitting the crossbar. So it shouldn't have counted either. Conspiracy number two.

But then I could counter with the footage I have of Jesuit scoring a goal in the second half when the keeper was out and one of the Marcus players was clearly standing inside of the goal and heading the ball out as you see the Jesuit players celebrating the scoring of the goal. Lines judge ruled the ENTIRE ball didn't cross into the goal. Oh well. I guess he blew both goals. Oops my bad, different lines judge. Or maybe I could bring up when Jesuit scored a goal in the first half when one of the Marcus fullbacks tripped over his own feet and fell down. And the ref disallowed the goal. In this case disallowed is correct as the ball HIT the back of the net. So I'll give you your goal if you give me my two. Same outcome.

You're absolutely right. A private school that doesn't play by the same rules as everyone else wins state. Boy, I would be proud of a championship by a team that anybody in town can play on. Buy a soccer championship, send your kid to Jesuit! LOL!

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:With district nearing the halfway mark, it looks like the areas strongest 5A will be:

7-5A
8-5A
5-5A

Should be a great second half and revenge factors for some.

You have a firm grasp on the obvious. SL Carroll, Coppell and Keller ISD in 7-5A. Lewisville ISD and Plano schools in 8-5A. 5-5 not so much with the exceptions of Legacy. Whatever districts have SLC, Coppell, Plano ISD and Lewisville ISD will always dominate the boys and girls high schools soccer scene. Throwing out Jesuit (private schools don't play by the exact same rules as the rest of us), schools in 8-5A have won the last three state 5A boys titles.

I'm curious as to your revenge factors - who against who?

Every year is different. I know you are still bitter about Jesuit not letting Marcus advance last year. The UIL will not take it away. 5-5A is coming on as a district this year. Legacy, Midlothian, Duncanville all have 10+ wins.

Now that most teams have played everyone once in district, I am sure there are several teams that want REVENGE in the second round of district play. Plano vs Marcus? Coppell Vs Southlake? Keller vs Southlake? Midlothian vs Legacy?

All of these have district championship implications.

Jesuit didn't disallow our second goal in that game last year, the refs did. Jesuit got lucky which is one of things you need to win state.

I order to have a goal disallowed you have to score it first. Marcus never scored a second goal in the game. Got close, just couldn't get it in. Great save by the Jesuit keeper.

Baloney. We have two seperate videos and a still picture showing it in the goal. Aubrey did a great acting job!!!!!! We know it was a goal and so does he. Poor kid!

The wonderful thing about refs is they don't care who wins. They just call the game as they see it.

I too have a video of the play. And it is easy to see the ball hit the keepers foot, clearly planted in front of the touch line and the ball bouncing straight up (shame on you for calling out a plyer by name). Never crossing into the goal. The conspiracy theory still exists. I suppose you were shooting from the grassy knoll. I suppose you also have footage of the last goal hitting the football goal post instead of hitting the crossbar. So it shouldn't have counted either. Conspiracy number two.

But then I could counter with the footage I have of Jesuit scoring a goal in the second half when the keeper was out and one of the Marcus players was clearly standing inside of the goal and heading the ball out as you see the Jesuit players celebrating the scoring of the goal. Lines judge ruled the ENTIRE ball didn't cross into the goal. Oh well. I guess he blew both goals. Oops my bad, different lines judge. Or maybe I could bring up when Jesuit scored a goal in the first half when one of the Marcus fullbacks tripped over his own feet and fell down. And the ref disallowed the goal. In this case disallowed is correct as the ball HIT the back of the net. So I'll give you your goal if you give me my two. Same outcome.

You're absolutely right. A private school that doesn't play by the same rules as everyone else wins state. Boy, I would be proud. LOL!

We play by the UIL rules. And, yes, I am.

my child is not a jesuit student, though i am well versed in private education in n dallas. while jesuit is able to "recruit" students, those students must still maintain an acceptable gpa (a likely higher requirement than many of the public schools) to both play and stay in school while taking a courseload that is undoubtedly more demanding than most of the public schools. i am not attempting to bash public eduaction, but the boys that attend schools like jesuit or st marks or greenhill etc cannot simply rest on their athletic laurels, as their academic development is most important.

mplsnsg wrote:my child is not a jesuit student, though i am well versed in private education in n dallas. while jesuit is able to "recruit" students, those students must still maintain an acceptable gpa (a likely higher requirement than many of the public schools) to both play and stay in school while taking a courseload that is undoubtedly more demanding than most of the public schools. i am not attempting to bash public eduaction, but the boys that attend schools like jesuit or st marks or greenhill etc cannot simply rest on their athletic laurels, as their academic development is most important.

Isn't Jesuit following the UIL rules of a passing 70 to maintain eligibility? Of course they are, same as public schools. Now if you want to debate the quality of the education, I can understand that. Of course, Public Schools have to deal with the full socio economic issues that Jesuit doesn't. I am sure Carroll would debate you on this.

I believe as a whole, soccer players are a little smarter than the average round ball players but to say Jesuit thinks scademic is more omportant than athletics? If that was the case why did the attorney threat to sue the UIL to allow Jesuit in with public schhols with the administration backing?

I'm tired of discussing Jesuit...lets get back to the rest of the regular season and onto the playoffs.

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:With district nearing the halfway mark, it looks like the areas strongest 5A will be:

7-5A
8-5A
5-5A

Should be a great second half and revenge factors for some.

You have a firm grasp on the obvious. SL Carroll, Coppell and Keller ISD in 7-5A. Lewisville ISD and Plano schools in 8-5A. 5-5 not so much with the exceptions of Legacy. Whatever districts have SLC, Coppell, Plano ISD and Lewisville ISD will always dominate the boys and girls high schools soccer scene. Throwing out Jesuit (private schools don't play by the exact same rules as the rest of us), schools in 8-5A have won the last three state 5A boys titles.

I'm curious as to your revenge factors - who against who?

Every year is different. I know you are still bitter about Jesuit not letting Marcus advance last year. The UIL will not take it away. 5-5A is coming on as a district this year. Legacy, Midlothian, Duncanville all have 10+ wins.

Now that most teams have played everyone once in district, I am sure there are several teams that want REVENGE in the second round of district play. Plano vs Marcus? Coppell Vs Southlake? Keller vs Southlake? Midlothian vs Legacy?

All of these have district championship implications.

Jesuit didn't disallow our second goal in that game last year, the refs did. Jesuit got lucky which is one of things you need to win state.

I order to have a goal disallowed you have to score it first. Marcus never scored a second goal in the game. Got close, just couldn't get it in. Great save by the Jesuit keeper.

Baloney. We have two seperate videos and a still picture showing it in the goal. Aubrey did a great acting job!!!!!! We know it was a goal and so does he. Poor kid!

The wonderful thing about refs is they don't care who wins. They just call the game as they see it.

I too have a video of the play. And it is easy to see the ball hit the keepers foot, clearly planted in front of the touch line and the ball bouncing straight up (shame on you for calling out a plyer by name). Never crossing into the goal. The conspiracy theory still exists. I suppose you were shooting from the grassy knoll. I suppose you also have footage of the last goal hitting the football goal post instead of hitting the crossbar. So it shouldn't have counted either. Conspiracy number two.

But then I could counter with the footage I have of Jesuit scoring a goal in the second half when the keeper was out and one of the Marcus players was clearly standing inside of the goal and heading the ball out as you see the Jesuit players celebrating the scoring of the goal. Lines judge ruled the ENTIRE ball didn't cross into the goal. Oh well. I guess he blew both goals. Oops my bad, different lines judge. Or maybe I could bring up when Jesuit scored a goal in the first half when one of the Marcus fullbacks tripped over his own feet and fell down. And the ref disallowed the goal. In this case disallowed is correct as the ball HIT the back of the net. So I'll give you your goal if you give me my two. Same outcome.

You're absolutely right. A private school that doesn't play by the same rules as everyone else wins state. Boy, I would be proud. LOL!

We play by the UIL rules. And, yes, I am.

And Jesuit's attendance zone is ...... DFW. Gee, that's not the same rules as every public school. Admit it, Jesuit has a special advantage. Why don't they win in soccer every year?Why were the only two private schools in the UIL in the state 5A final last year? Gee, they must be special. Enough Jesuit bashing, I find the idea of an all boys school in this day and age quite quaint. I'll finish with this little ditty - stranger, danger, Jesuit Ranger - after all, it is a Catholic institution. No more Jesuit comments this year. I've grow tired of listening to elitist bragging.

soccerrus2 wrote:

mplsnsg wrote:my child is not a jesuit student, though i am well versed in private education in n dallas. while jesuit is able to "recruit" students, those students must still maintain an acceptable gpa (a likely higher requirement than many of the public schools) to both play and stay in school while taking a courseload that is undoubtedly more demanding than most of the public schools. i am not attempting to bash public eduaction, but the boys that attend schools like jesuit or st marks or greenhill etc cannot simply rest on their athletic laurels, as their academic development is most important.

Isn't Jesuit following the UIL rules of a passing 70 to maintain eligibility? Of course they are, same as public schools. Now if you want to debate the quality of the education, I can understand that. Of course, Public Schools have to deal with the full socio economic issues that Jesuit doesn't. I am sure Carroll would debate you on this.

I believe as a whole, soccer players are a little smarter than the average round ball players but to say Jesuit thinks scademic is more omportant than athletics? If that was the case why did the attorney threat to sue the UIL to allow Jesuit in with public schhols with the administration backing?



I'm tired of discussing Jesuit...lets get back to the rest of the regular season and onto the playoffs.

Not sure what "full socio economic issues" you refer too. Could be interpreted as a racist statement. Hopefully not. Oh I get it; there are no girls at Jesuit. That must have been what you meant. It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma!

Actually family and God come before academics at Jesuit. Athletics is down the list. I can't remember one form we filled out that asked about sports when we applied for admission. I do remember them telling us that if we were coming to Jesuit because of athletics that we were at the wrong school. Though they do believe it is a healthy part of a maturing male. My kids weren't at Jesuit when the lawsuit was filed but my opinion was the reason they filed the lawsuit was because what the UIL was doing was illegal. I guess the UIL realized it and backed off. Maybe it was because they wanted to force the UIL to come out of the dark ages and enter into the 21st century like the rest of the United States.

I too am tired of all of the crap spewed at a bunch of boys who just want to get a good education and play some sports like all of their friends that attend public schools do. Is it too much to ask? Too many it is.

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

onetenguy wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:With district nearing the halfway mark, it looks like the areas strongest 5A will be:

7-5A
8-5A
5-5A

Should be a great second half and revenge factors for some.

You have a firm grasp on the obvious. SL Carroll, Coppell and Keller ISD in 7-5A. Lewisville ISD and Plano schools in 8-5A. 5-5 not so much with the exceptions of Legacy. Whatever districts have SLC, Coppell, Plano ISD and Lewisville ISD will always dominate the boys and girls high schools soccer scene. Throwing out Jesuit (private schools don't play by the exact same rules as the rest of us), schools in 8-5A have won the last three state 5A boys titles.

I'm curious as to your revenge factors - who against who?

Every year is different. I know you are still bitter about Jesuit not letting Marcus advance last year. The UIL will not take it away. 5-5A is coming on as a district this year. Legacy, Midlothian, Duncanville all have 10+ wins.

Now that most teams have played everyone once in district, I am sure there are several teams that want REVENGE in the second round of district play. Plano vs Marcus? Coppell Vs Southlake? Keller vs Southlake? Midlothian vs Legacy?

All of these have district championship implications.

Jesuit didn't disallow our second goal in that game last year, the refs did. Jesuit got lucky which is one of things you need to win state.

I order to have a goal disallowed you have to score it first. Marcus never scored a second goal in the game. Got close, just couldn't get it in. Great save by the Jesuit keeper.

Baloney. We have two seperate videos and a still picture showing it in the goal. Aubrey did a great acting job!!!!!! We know it was a goal and so does he. Poor kid!

The wonderful thing about refs is they don't care who wins. They just call the game as they see it.

I too have a video of the play. And it is easy to see the ball hit the keepers foot, clearly planted in front of the touch line and the ball bouncing straight up (shame on you for calling out a plyer by name). Never crossing into the goal. The conspiracy theory still exists. I suppose you were shooting from the grassy knoll. I suppose you also have footage of the last goal hitting the football goal post instead of hitting the crossbar. So it shouldn't have counted either. Conspiracy number two.

But then I could counter with the footage I have of Jesuit scoring a goal in the second half when the keeper was out and one of the Marcus players was clearly standing inside of the goal and heading the ball out as you see the Jesuit players celebrating the scoring of the goal. Lines judge ruled the ENTIRE ball didn't cross into the goal. Oh well. I guess he blew both goals. Oops my bad, different lines judge. Or maybe I could bring up when Jesuit scored a goal in the first half when one of the Marcus fullbacks tripped over his own feet and fell down. And the ref disallowed the goal. In this case disallowed is correct as the ball HIT the back of the net. So I'll give you your goal if you give me my two. Same outcome.

You're absolutely right. A private school that doesn't play by the same rules as everyone else wins state. Boy, I would be proud. LOL!

We play by the UIL rules. And, yes, I am.

And Jesuit's attendance zone is ...... DFW. Gee, that's not the same rules as every public school. Admit it, Jesuit has a special advantage. Why don't they win in soccer every year?Why were the only two private schools in the UIL in the state 5A final last year? Gee, they must be special. Enough Jesuit bashing, I find the idea of an all boys school in this day and age quite quaint. I'll finish with this little ditty - stranger, danger, Jesuit Ranger - after all, it is a Catholic institution. No more Jesuit comments this year. I've grow tired of listening to elitist bragging.

I agree. If they have such an advantage why don't they win in soccer every year? They have been in the UIL since 2003. And why don't they have a dominating football team. Maybe this mysterious advantage doesn't really exist. And why did it take 100 years for a private school to win a UIL state championship in a team sport? Must be the elusive advantage again. Personally I find any adult, bashing and bad mouthing young boys because they go to a private school or because some of them are Catholic, to be a very sad state. But after all it is the "good ol boy" state of Texas and is to be expected. By the way, could you point me to the post where the "elitist bragging" was? I must have missed it.

Back to the scheduled program.

With an Allen win on Friday, drops Marcus to 4th in district! Jesuit loses to Richardson. Any update? Carroll in drivers seat for district title with win over Keller. #1 team in the nation Frisco-Wakeland loses first match in 4A. Good stuff!

soccergrinder wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

mplsnsg wrote:my child is not a jesuit student, though i am well versed in private education in n dallas. while jesuit is able to "recruit" students, those students must still maintain an acceptable gpa (a likely higher requirement than many of the public schools) to both play and stay in school while taking a courseload that is undoubtedly more demanding than most of the public schools. i am not attempting to bash public eduaction, but the boys that attend schools like jesuit or st marks or greenhill etc cannot simply rest on their athletic laurels, as their academic development is most important.

Isn't Jesuit following the UIL rules of a passing 70 to maintain eligibility? Of course they are, same as public schools. Now if you want to debate the quality of the education, I can understand that. Of course, Public Schools have to deal with the full socio economic issues that Jesuit doesn't. I am sure Carroll would debate you on this.

I believe as a whole, soccer players are a little smarter than the average round ball players but to say Jesuit thinks scademic is more omportant than athletics? If that was the case why did the attorney threat to sue the UIL to allow Jesuit in with public schhols with the administration backing?



I'm tired of discussing Jesuit...lets get back to the rest of the regular season and onto the playoffs.

Not sure what "full socio economic issues" you refer too. Could be interpreted as a racist statement. Hopefully not. Oh I get it; there are no girls at Jesuit. That must have been what you meant. It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma!

Actually family and God come before academics at Jesuit. Athletics is down the list. I can't remember one form we filled out that asked about sports when we applied for admission. I do remember them telling us that if we were coming to Jesuit because of athletics that we were at the wrong school. Though they do believe it is a healthy part of a maturing male. My kids weren't at Jesuit when the lawsuit was filed but my opinion was the reason they filed the lawsuit was because what the UIL was doing was illegal. I guess the UIL realized it and backed off. Maybe it was because they wanted to force the UIL to come out of the dark ages and enter into the 21st century like the rest of the United States.

I too am tired of all of the crap spewed at a bunch of boys who just want to get a good education and play some sports like all of their friends that attend public schools do. Is it too much to ask? Too many it is.

Grinder, you're giving SR2 too much credit...He isn't smart enough to purposefully wrap all that together in a single statement.


SR2, where were you last weekend? You were supposed to give me your schedule. We need a good laugh together!

finish1 wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

soccerrus2 wrote:

mplsnsg wrote:my child is not a jesuit student, though i am well versed in private education in n dallas. while jesuit is able to "recruit" students, those students must still maintain an acceptable gpa (a likely higher requirement than many of the public schools) to both play and stay in school while taking a courseload that is undoubtedly more demanding than most of the public schools. i am not attempting to bash public eduaction, but the boys that attend schools like jesuit or st marks or greenhill etc cannot simply rest on their athletic laurels, as their academic development is most important.

Isn't Jesuit following the UIL rules of a passing 70 to maintain eligibility? Of course they are, same as public schools. Now if you want to debate the quality of the education, I can understand that. Of course, Public Schools have to deal with the full socio economic issues that Jesuit doesn't. I am sure Carroll would debate you on this.

I believe as a whole, soccer players are a little smarter than the average round ball players but to say Jesuit thinks scademic is more omportant than athletics? If that was the case why did the attorney threat to sue the UIL to allow Jesuit in with public schhols with the administration backing?



I'm tired of discussing Jesuit...lets get back to the rest of the regular season and onto the playoffs.

Not sure what "full socio economic issues" you refer too. Could be interpreted as a racist statement. Hopefully not. Oh I get it; there are no girls at Jesuit. That must have been what you meant. It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma!

Actually family and God come before academics at Jesuit. Athletics is down the list. I can't remember one form we filled out that asked about sports when we applied for admission. I do remember them telling us that if we were coming to Jesuit because of athletics that we were at the wrong school. Though they do believe it is a healthy part of a maturing male. My kids weren't at Jesuit when the lawsuit was filed but my opinion was the reason they filed the lawsuit was because what the UIL was doing was illegal. I guess the UIL realized it and backed off. Maybe it was because they wanted to force the UIL to come out of the dark ages and enter into the 21st century like the rest of the United States.

I too am tired of all of the crap spewed at a bunch of boys who just want to get a good education and play some sports like all of their friends that attend public schools do. Is it too much to ask? Too many it is.

Grinder, you're giving SR2 too much credit...He isn't smart enough to purposefully wrap all that together in a single statement.


SR2, where were you last weekend? You were supposed to give me your schedule. We need a good laugh together!

Who really cares if Jesuit is in UIL or not! There's no way they can afford to "recruit" and scholarship a whole team. I think the bigger question (no pun intended) is the mega schools in 5A have a huge advantage when they can pick a team out of 5,000 students vs. a 5A school with 2,500 or less. IMHO, those schools have much more of an advantage than Jesuit.

If Jesuit is illegally recruiting players, like Southlake Carroll in football, UIL would call them out. Or, if you know a school is illegally recruiting players, contact Brett Shipp. Otherwise, who really cares.

finish1 wrote:

Grinder, you're giving SR2 too much credit...He isn't smart enough to purposefully wrap all that together in a single statement.


SR2, where were you last weekend? You were supposed to give me your schedule. We need a good laugh together!

Go back in your hole finish1 you have nothing to add to this discussion.

I was at Richland on Saturday, I wore yellow.

When looking at the Marcus progream, vs. the Flower Mound and Lewisville teams...you can't tell me there isn't significant "recruiting" going on to get the best soccer players in the district to attend Marcus.

Always impressed at the denial of both sides of this argument. Having no child in any of the schools mentioned (will have next year).

- the sour grapes of losing to a better team cracks me up as it could just as likely be a bigger school, not a private one, you play against the opponent scheduled - simple as that. They petitioned to be able to do just that, so you have to live with it. I'm certain those complaining would find another reason (referees, scheduling...) to pin their losses on, it's an approach as old as sports.

- to deny Jesuit has no advantage is to be blind. How many Plano West (large 5A school with a superior soccer demographic)inhabitants go to Jesuit?

Many schools recruit in sports - I don't know of any in soccer, but to think good soccer players don't choose Jesuit is being silly (reverse recruiting still is a huge advantage).

This could just as easily be another sport, if the right coach or administrator determines to emphasize it. To deny school size or open registration is an advantage is just foolish - the coach can obviously offset things like this, but normally not in a sport that is club-based. Show me a soccer team that's kicking tail and isn't club based and I'll bet it's not from North Texas.

I agree Jesuit has a perceived advantage because their available talent pool isn't limited by the boundaries of a public school district. However, that advantage may be equalized somewhat because of their religous cirriculum.

The reality is they won 5A boys soccer last year and earned every victory.

Over time, other powerhouses like Southlake, FM Marcus and Plano have better track records.

Speaking of Southlake, has anyone noticed how they are soaring up the charts? To win 5A state this year, you'll have to slay the Dragon. They play great possession ball and move it very well. I believe they are currently the only 5A team with offense and defense ranked in the Top 3.

finish1 wrote:I agree Jesuit has a perceived advantage because their available talent pool isn't limited by the boundaries of a public school district. However, that advantage may be equalized somewhat because of their religous cirriculum.

The reality is they won 5A boys soccer last year and earned every victory.

Over time, other powerhouses like Southlake, FM Marcus and Plano have better track records.

Speaking of Southlake, has anyone noticed how they are soaring up the charts? To win 5A state this year, you'll have to slay the Dragon. They play great possession ball and move it very well. I believe they are currently the only 5A team with offense and defense ranked in the Top 3.

Southlake is very good, but the bottom half of 7-5A is extremely weak, so their goal totals are a little inflated. They are fun to watch, though.

90th_minute wrote:

finish1 wrote:I agree Jesuit has a perceived advantage because their available talent pool isn't limited by the boundaries of a public school district. However, that advantage may be equalized somewhat because of their religous cirriculum.

The reality is they won 5A boys soccer last year and earned every victory.

Over time, other powerhouses like Southlake, FM Marcus and Plano have better track records.

Speaking of Southlake, has anyone noticed how they are soaring up the charts? To win 5A state this year, you'll have to slay the Dragon. They play great possession ball and move it very well. I believe they are currently the only 5A team with offense and defense ranked in the Top 3.

Southlake is very good, but the bottom half of 7-5A is extremely weak, so their goal totals are a little inflated. They are fun to watch, though.

I liked their chances more last year than this year. It will soon get more competitive and we shall see.

Lake Highlands 3 vs Jesuit 3
LH wins in pks dribble ups tonight

socmom3 wrote:Lake Highlands 3 vs Jesuit 3
LH wins in pks dribble ups tonight

Anytime LH beats Jesuit is a plus for this old man. I was responsible for LH losing to them in the Dr Pepper tournament back in the mid 80's. Easy cross and just botched it. Every win takes a little of that pain away. Way to go LHHS!

Nice butt kicking Plano put on Marcus 5-2.

Re: Southlake inflated numbers. Most 5-A districts are 3-4 deep and the rest are fairly weak. Don't you wonder why 4 go to the playoffs?

Well done LHH. Tied with Jesuit for 2nd in district. Don't you know the Mustangs were pulling for LHH last night for the first time!! Good stuff!

When does Frisco Centennial get a Varsity team?

Centennial has varsity, has since 04. All Frisco schools are varsity sports now. We rebounded from our 1-0 mishap with Frisco with a 6-0 over CHS last night. Scored 26 seconds in, good start.

How about Highland Park over RL Turner. Big win for the scots! Fun times getting ready for the playoffs!!

Go McKinney Boyd Bronos win district then go deep in playoffs maybe all the way to state! The team has improved each game and have win against Plano pre-season.

Soccer, I like your chances. Region 2 Final in Austin could be a rematch from the Governor's Cup between McKinney Boyd and The Woodlands. That would be a great match.