This cost looks like a drop in the bucket for most NTX parents - wonder what the U9 waiting list looks like?

http://www.dallastexans.com/ResidencyProgram.php

Price is chump change. Would end up spending more on gas. My concern as a parent would be quality of the school.

LMAO okay so who's signing up? Bet bb would love that half day and more soccer, mom probably not so much. Iphone, Ipad, Imac, Ischool, everybody knows it's better when you put the "I" in front.

My son would love to be in a "soccer school"... Thanks for the link

allen04 wrote:Price is chump change. Would end up spending more on gas. My concern as a parent would be quality of the school.

$3900, plus the cost of being on a team (what's that, another $3000)? Not "chump change" at my house! Although I guess you save some money because there's no way you could do this and play any other sport!

clueless wrote:This cost looks like a drop in the bucket for most NTX parents - wonder what the U9 waiting list looks like?

Not sure how this would work -- press release only talks about "middle schools" and high school, so anyone under 11 (or below 6th grade) doesn't appear to be eligible.

Not to worry, they have Charter elementary schools as well so you can go ahead and sign up your K-5th graders, too!!!

scrdad wrote:

allen04 wrote:Price is chump change. Would end up spending more on gas. My concern as a parent would be quality of the school.

$3900, plus the cost of being on a team (what's that, another $3000)? Not "chump change" at my house! Although I guess you save some money because there's no way you could do this and play any other sport!

I'd bet there are hundreds of over-the-top dreamers that spend that much now on individual skills ($300/month).

When/if you start to travel, that amount will get you to two tournaments outside of Texas - so, it is chump change from a soccer perspective. The alternative of using that money as country club fees would prove to be better for the entire family and probably create greater memories.

Starting it at nine is brilliant, get 'em while they are young (both child and parent). In all seriousness, not sure how this would work at that young of an age for this type of sport as the growth factor hasn't hit yet.

I have a neighbor who did this in gymnastics and it basically turned their kid from very good to exceptional given the added training. Although the school wasn't much fun from a friendship standpoint - everyone in your class is also your competitor. The school is very comparable to Plano schools where the rest of the family goes. Now that cost makes soccer look free.

HN will be teaching English and they are rehiring ZB for math

clueless wrote:

scrdad wrote:

allen04 wrote:Price is chump change. Would end up spending more on gas. My concern as a parent would be quality of the school.

$3900, plus the cost of being on a team (what's that, another $3000)? Not "chump change" at my house! Although I guess you save some money because there's no way you could do this and play any other sport!

I'd bet there are hundreds of over-the-top dreamers that spend that much now on individual skills ($300/month).

When/if you start to travel, that amount will get you to two tournaments outside of Texas - so, it is chump change from a soccer perspective. The alternative of using that money as country club fees would prove to be better for the entire family and probably create greater memories.

Starting it at nine is brilliant, get 'em while they are young (both child and parent). In all seriousness, not sure how this would work at that young of an age for this type of sport as the growth factor hasn't hit yet.

I have a neighbor who did this in gymnastics and it basically turned their kid from very good to exceptional given the added training. Although the school wasn't much fun from a friendship standpoint - everyone in your class is also your competitor. The school is very comparable to Plano schools where the rest of the family goes. Now that cost makes soccer look free.

How the conversation would go at my house...

Me: Honey, look at this really cool program for Jr! He'll be the next Lionel Messi!!!

Mom: You're out of your ever-loving mind!

Me: But it will allow our guy to develop skills like no other approach could!

Mom: Fine, but get yourself an appartment near the dorms, 'cause you won't be living here.

Soccer program... $3,900
Team Fees... $3,000
Alimony and child support... $250,000

Seems like a pretty expensive program to me!

$3900, plus the cost of being on a team (what's that, another $3000?)

Considering daycare can easily run $6,000/year, I don't think it's that bad. Granted; I don't want to add that to my expenses; but all in all...

I'll admit I didn't wager team costs on top of the residence cost.

Now if they had the same type of thing concentrating on Black Ops, I think my bb would be interested. Can I use my dependent care account?

What about player rights?

I hear Neil Connell is going to operate the food service!

Here is what is really going on:

Hassan has set up shop in Ghana. He created Ghana Texans. He will sell their young players on the chance to come to the US get an education, training with the Texans on great fields, and possibly apply for citizenship (play for the US). He will own their rights and they will go to the charter school and train/play with your kids. When they can sign with the mls or pro HN (or a designated party, wink) will be their agent. To get things rolling he needs some of you NTX parents to sign up and get in line.

drsoccer wrote:Here is what is really going on:

Hassan has set up shop in Ghana. He created Ghana Texans. He will sell their young players on the chance to come to the US get an education, training with the Texans on great fields, and possibly apply for citizenship (play for the US). He will own their rights and they will go to the charter school and train/play with your kids. When they can sign with the mls or pro HN (or a designated party, wink) will be their agent. To get things rolling he needs some of you NTX parents to sign up and get in line.

Well said Drsoccer. It will be interesting to see how long before the first contract is signed and the Texans become the AJAX of the US.

striker6 wrote:

drsoccer wrote:Here is what is really going on:

Hassan has set up shop in Ghana. He created Ghana Texans. He will sell their young players on the chance to come to the US get an education, training with the Texans on great fields, and possibly apply for citizenship (play for the US). He will own their rights and they will go to the charter school and train/play with your kids. When they can sign with the mls or pro HN (or a designated party, wink) will be their agent. To get things rolling he needs some of you NTX parents to sign up and get in line.

Well said Drsoccer. It will be interesting to see how long before the first contract is signed and the Texans become the AJAX of the US.

Ok, so just to understand you guy's opinion, is that a bad thing ? Isn't that a legitimate objective for a soccer club ?

LMAO. good luck on that Ajax part. If you are looking for what's going on, there is no need to look any further than the $3900.

gababa wrote:

striker6 wrote:

drsoccer wrote:Here is what is really going on:

Hassan has set up shop in Ghana. He created Ghana Texans. He will sell their young players on the chance to come to the US get an education, training with the Texans on great fields, and possibly apply for citizenship (play for the US). He will own their rights and they will go to the charter school and train/play with your kids. When they can sign with the mls or pro HN (or a designated party, wink) will be their agent. To get things rolling he needs some of you NTX parents to sign up and get in line.

Well said Drsoccer. It will be interesting to see how long before the first contract is signed and the Texans become the AJAX of the US.

Ok, so just to understand you guy's opinion, is that a bad thing ? Isn't that a legitimate objective for a soccer club ?

It's the selling of a dream to parents here. Pay me extra and I will turn junior into a great player. BTW there is no connection to him being in the residency program and being on my top academy team. He actually needs to be able to play for that.

go99 wrote:

gababa wrote:

striker6 wrote:

drsoccer wrote:Here is what is really going on:

Hassan has set up shop in Ghana. He created Ghana Texans. He will sell their young players on the chance to come to the US get an education, training with the Texans on great fields, and possibly apply for citizenship (play for the US). He will own their rights and they will go to the charter school and train/play with your kids. When they can sign with the mls or pro HN (or a designated party, wink) will be their agent. To get things rolling he needs some of you NTX parents to sign up and get in line.

Well said Drsoccer. It will be interesting to see how long before the first contract is signed and the Texans become the AJAX of the US.

Ok, so just to understand you guy's opinion, is that a bad thing ? Isn't that a legitimate objective for a soccer club ?

It's the selling of a dream to parents here. Pay me extra and I will turn junior into a great player. BTW there is no connection to him being in the residency program and being on my top academy team. He actually needs to be able to play for that.

No doubt he is selling a dream but does that changes the point that this is the ultimate objective of a soccer club : create world class player. Does HN have the right program to make that happen still need to be proven but it simply can't be proven before he tries. Go99, you have criticized enough the club for focusing on teams instead of players; now as they turn around (or I should say, they add another option) and are trying to focus on players you can't criticize the club for trying that. Again my point here is that HN is trying to go forward; I think it is a positive move.

I wonder if there will be any kids that strictly do the residency program and don't play for any club at all.

gababa wrote:

go99 wrote:

gababa wrote:

striker6 wrote:

drsoccer wrote:Here is what is really going on:

Hassan has set up shop in Ghana. He created Ghana Texans. He will sell their young players on the chance to come to the US get an education, training with the Texans on great fields, and possibly apply for citizenship (play for the US). He will own their rights and they will go to the charter school and train/play with your kids. When they can sign with the mls or pro HN (or a designated party, wink) will be their agent. To get things rolling he needs some of you NTX parents to sign up and get in line.

Well said Drsoccer. It will be interesting to see how long before the first contract is signed and the Texans become the AJAX of the US.

Ok, so just to understand you guy's opinion, is that a bad thing ? Isn't that a legitimate objective for a soccer club ?

It's the selling of a dream to parents here. Pay me extra and I will turn junior into a great player. BTW there is no connection to him being in the residency program and being on my top academy team. He actually needs to be able to play for that.

No doubt he is selling a dream but does that changes the point that this is the ultimate objective of a soccer club : create world class player. Does HN have the right program to make that happen still need to be proven but it simply can't be proven before he tries. Go99, you have criticized enough the club for focusing on teams instead of players; now as they turn around (or I should say, they add another option) and are trying to focus on players you can't criticize the club for trying that. Again my point here is that HN is trying to go forward; I think it is a positive move.

This is no focus on the player at all, it is a money grab. If HN wants to focus on the player then they should start by doing some scouting and finding players with the natural talents and skills that actually give them the potential and then inviting those players to the residential program. Not everyone can get into the ajax program. Not everyone can get into barcelona. It is not always who everyone thinks is the best and they are not always right but they are making an attempt to identify players and then develope them. There is no identifying here except identifying that you can afford to pay $3900. 2 left feet? doesn't matter. Soccer mind of a monkey humping a football? that's okay. Just bring me $3900.

that's my call out to HN. Come on, at least try. At least look for those players, hell at least even care that they exist. Then develope like hell to see if any of those players that you think have potential will turn out to be anything.

No, never mind. Just collect the check. It's much easier because I am sure there are plenty of people who feel 3900 is a cheap price to pay to buy their kids soccer dream.

Go has it right. It is currently open to anyone - ANY player of ANY caliber from ANY club.

They need to get it started, get the money in to entice the Coach he is bringing in, and eventually the kids from Ghana.

No one ever said the man was stupid.

go99 wrote:that's my call out to HN. Come on, at least try. At least look for those players, hell at least even care that they exist. Then develope like hell to see if any of those players that you think have potential will turn out to be anything.

No, never mind. Just collect the check. It's much easier because I am sure there are plenty of people who feel 3900 is a cheap price to pay to buy their kids soccer dream.

ouch!!!!

go99 wrote:that's my call out to HN. Come on, at least try. At least look for those players, hell at least even care that they exist. Then develope like hell to see if any of those players that you think have potential will turn out to be anything.

No, never mind. Just collect the check. It's much easier because I am sure there are plenty of people who feel 3900 is a cheap price to pay to buy their kids soccer dream.

Agree on the perception of the cost vs the dream.

Since when is it mutually exclusive between recruiting/developing (sounds like the U11 posts) and making money. All can coexist - and, for that club in particular, they do exist at the highest level (not a Texan parent, never been one, FYI). The Ghana pipeline is very wise and will even help in the local participants of the residency.

Select soccer is a 'soccer dream' for the majority of parents. Many think, for too long, that their kid will be going to college for free or just even to play soccer. If they can afford additional training to prolong their dream or make it closer to reality, who cares? The numbers of college signees vs kids playing tell the real story.

Depends how selective the residency program is - if it's the top of the top, then it probably serves the best purpose it possibly can. If it's only kids being forced into it by their wealthy parents - then, it's only a money grab. Honestly, I can't believe the cost isn't $10,000 and then you'd just subsidize those with potential who can't afford it. With the cost set at $3900, I can't imagine there won't be a lot of parents wanting a soccer babysitting situations.

So basically it is a private school with on one extracurricular activity? Hmmmmmm. bet you're gonna get some first class teaching and facilities for that price. I don't know of any little struggling private church school in the metro that is that cheap.

iSchool High indeed. Is that out of a strip shopping center or just someone's garage?

Oh well, let a thousand flowers bloom I guess.

go99 wrote:

gababa wrote:

go99 wrote:

gababa wrote:

striker6 wrote:

drsoccer wrote:Here is what is really going on:

Hassan has set up shop in Ghana. He created Ghana Texans. He will sell their young players on the chance to come to the US get an education, training with the Texans on great fields, and possibly apply for citizenship (play for the US). He will own their rights and they will go to the charter school and train/play with your kids. When they can sign with the mls or pro HN (or a designated party, wink) will be their agent. To get things rolling he needs some of you NTX parents to sign up and get in line.

Well said Drsoccer. It will be interesting to see how long before the first contract is signed and the Texans become the AJAX of the US.

Ok, so just to understand you guy's opinion, is that a bad thing ? Isn't that a legitimate objective for a soccer club ?

It's the selling of a dream to parents here. Pay me extra and I will turn junior into a great player. BTW there is no connection to him being in the residency program and being on my top academy team. He actually needs to be able to play for that.

No doubt he is selling a dream but does that changes the point that this is the ultimate objective of a soccer club : create world class player. Does HN have the right program to make that happen still need to be proven but it simply can't be proven before he tries. Go99, you have criticized enough the club for focusing on teams instead of players; now as they turn around (or I should say, they add another option) and are trying to focus on players you can't criticize the club for trying that. Again my point here is that HN is trying to go forward; I think it is a positive move.

This is no focus on the player at all, it is a money grab. If HN wants to focus on the player then they should start by doing some scouting and finding players with the natural talents and skills that actually give them the potential and then inviting those players to the residential program. Not everyone can get into the ajax program. Not everyone can get into barcelona. It is not always who everyone thinks is the best and they are not always right but they are making an attempt to identify players and then develope them. There is no identifying here except identifying that you can afford to pay $3900. 2 left feet? doesn't matter. Soccer mind of a monkey humping a football? that's okay. Just bring me $3900.

Go99 are you asking the Texans to open this program up for everyone to join for free? From what I read, it's open to all players regardless of club affiliation. I don't know which planet you are living on but it does take money to get this program going.

go99 wrote:

This is no focus on the player at all, it is a money grab.

Does the texans need to introduce another program to grab some more money ? I really don't think so. HN could have played it safe and kept on doing more of the same. Here he is making an extra effort to introduce another layer of soccer in the area. And he is aiming for a better soccer. Call me a dreamer but I actually believe he wants to promote soccer and wants to create better soccer players. Will he compromise "his empire" to do so ? For sure not. But he is doing something, trying something and in a sense taking some risk. We should at least acknowledge the effort.

gababa wrote:

go99 wrote:

This is no focus on the player at all, it is a money grab.

Does the texans need to introduce another program to grab some more money ? I really don't think so. HN could have played it safe and kept on doing more of the same. Here he is making an extra effort to introduce another layer of soccer in the area. And he is aiming for a better soccer. Call me a dreamer but I actually believe he wants to promote soccer and wants to create better soccer players. Will he compromise "his empire" to do so ? For sure not. But he is doing something, trying something and in a sense taking some risk. We should at least acknowledge the effort.

so to promote better soccer it's going to cost another 4K ??? its a business no need to sugarcoat it.