Soccer27 wrote:Now that the season is over who do people think have the best 03 team out there

This can include Primetime(gold and silver) and SDL(D3-D1)

Any thoughts?

I don't care. It has very little to do with how good the kid or team will be in eight or nine years when "it matters".

Until then enjoy all the power rankings and don't forget to brag to co-workers, neighbors and family.

27:

Are you serious? These boys are what, 7 or 8? You are a tool

The fact that "which is the best mighty-mite team?" is inevitably followed by "OMG you losers shouldn't care about this until I say you should" is about as predictable as Eastern sunrises.

Certainly nothing discussed on this site "matters" in the greater worldview, but IMO TFC Castro is the consistently best '03 boys team.

Soccer27 wrote:...I am sorry but I want my child to have the best and be the best. That is instilled at a young age where they apply that in school...

Since you mentioned it. What is the best 2nd grade out there? Is it in Highland Park, Frisco, McKinney, Flower Mound, Southlake? Do parents hop from city to city looking for the best 2nd grade... or 3rd grade or... like they do in search of the top team?

What if their 2nd grade falls from Exemplary to Recognized? Do they pack up and move?

27:

I am not a fan and I do not support power ranking academy teams. These are children that mature and develop at different rates. They make mistakes often and are rarely consistent. It is just the nature of their youth. Children may play on more than one team. They frequently move between teams. Trying to rate teams is useless as they change monthly.

If you are serious that you want the best for your children and that you are competitive, then you should consider repeating your primary schooling. Your poor grammar and misspelling are poor examples to set for your youth. It starts at home. Debit may have some recommendations on good schools for you....

debit wrote:

Soccer27 wrote:...I am sorry but I want my child to have the best and be the best. That is instilled at a young age where they apply that in school...

Since you mentioned it. What is the best 2nd grade out there? Is it in Highland Park, Frisco, McKinney, Flower Mound, Southlake? Do parents hop from city to city looking for the best 2nd grade... or 3rd grade or... like they do in search of the top team?

What if their 2nd grade falls from Exemplary to Recognized? Do they pack up and move?

debit wrote:

Soccer27 wrote:...I am sorry but I want my child to have the best and be the best. That is instilled at a young age where they apply that in school...

Since you mentioned it. What is the best 2nd grade out there? Is it in Highland Park, Frisco, McKinney, Flower Mound, Southlake? Do parents hop from city to city looking for the best 2nd grade... or 3rd grade or... like they do in search of the top team?

What if their 2nd grade falls from Exemplary to Recognized? Do they pack up and move?

Pretty good reason to buy a new house. Location, location, location!

Soccer27 wrote:I am sorry getafe. I didnt know this was a thesis. I guess since everyone in my household has a bachelors and a masters degree I don't believe the schooling is the problem

Idiots like u make it where people don't want to comment on this blog. Can we not act like adults and have a discussion about our passion. Our kids and their teams. Other people on here take things personal and make personal attacks instead of looking at the discussion in hand.

here's a novel idea - since you stated this thread how about you post your opinion on the best team? After all if you are the one saying you want you child to have the best and be the best I would expect you to know what team is the best and formulate a list for the rest of us to marvel at....

getafe01 wrote:27:

Are you serious? These boys are what, 7 or 8? You are a tool

What a stick in the mud. I bet you are real fun at parties.
The man is just trying to get some movement on this board and I don't blame him. The boys forum is not nearly as entertaining or fun as the girls forum.
Everyone knows that development is the number one priority, so quit acting like your some kind of soccer expert.
Rankings/Standings are just for fun for parents to get some banter going. I doubt anyone is actually showing it to their kids.

Let's be honest. The people that come on here and gripe about rankings usually do so because their kid isn't that good and their team sucks. Looking at rankings isn't much fun when little Johnny is on the 30th ranked team and rides the bench.
If you were really worried about only development, you would pay for a good skills coach, play 3v3, and stay away from SDL.

Put your boy in football, baseball, basketball or any other top sport and your "I'm scared of rankings" attitude will win you "the most feminine dad in the league award".

Of course, someone is going to respond to this post and explain how we don't develop players correctly, like they do in other countries, because we are only worried about winning. Meanwhile, in many of these other countries, those kids play no other sports, have no social life, live away from home at a soccer school with no parents around, and are sold off as property when they are old enough. And if they don't develop properly, they are sent home with nothing to show for it.

FCdad wrote:

getafe01 wrote:27:

Are you serious? These boys are what, 7 or 8? You are a tool

What a stick in the mud. I bet you are real fun at parties.
The man is just trying to get some movement on this board and I don't blame him. The boys forum is not nearly as entertaining or fun as the girls forum.
Everyone knows that development is the number one priority, so quit acting like your some kind of soccer expert.
Rankings/Standings are just for fun for parents to get some banter going. I doubt anyone is actually showing it to their kids.

Let's be honest. The people that come on here and gripe about rankings usually do so because their kid isn't that good and their team sucks. Looking at rankings isn't much fun when little Johnny is on the 30th ranked team and rides the bench.
If you were really worried about only development, you would pay for a good skills coach, play 3v3, and stay away from SDL.

Put your boy in football, baseball, basketball or any other top sport and your "I'm scared of rankings" attitude will win you "the most feminine dad in the league award".

Of course, someone is going to respond to this post and explain how we don't develop players correctly, like they do in other countries, because we are only worried about winning. Meanwhile, in many of these other countries, those kids play no other sports, have no social life, live away from home at a soccer school with no parents around, and are sold off as property when they are old enough. And if they don't develop properly, they are sent home with nothing to show for it.

Thank you FC! Good post. The relentless attacks are getting old. Not really sure what motivates it, but i think you are getting close. My son is also in competitive baseball and can say you hit the nail on the head with that one.

My awards for the year are: TFC (best overall team) Solar Red (most improved)

I hope my opinion does not harm any children or disrupt any development.

Nice post FC.
I agree TFC is the team to beat and Solar Red most improved. Post the details of Red's victory over TFC if you have them.

Odyssey and Solar Dynamo have to be near the top as well.

Soccer27 wrote:

hobbit wrote:

Soccer27 wrote:I am sorry getafe. I didnt know this was a thesis. I guess since everyone in my household has a bachelors and a masters degree I don't believe the schooling is the problem

Idiots like u make it where people don't want to comment on this blog. Can we not act like adults and have a discussion about our passion. Our kids and their teams. Other people on here take things personal and make personal attacks instead of looking at the discussion in hand.

here's a novel idea - since you stated this thread how about you post your opinion on the best team? After all if you are the one saying you want you child to have the best and be the best I would expect you to know what team is the best and formulate a list for the rest of us to marvel at....

I have to say
TFC-Castro is the team to beat
Solar Red Bates
Dallas Texans -Gold
Mansfield Samba gold
Wizards Gold
Dallas Texans- Silver

This is for entertainment purpose.





Solar

Was Solar your signature or were you saying that Solar was in the next group? Just asking. Don't really care. Of course, I asked so I guess I care some.

soccer27, When you say Texans, which Texans team are you taking about?

Soccerdad79 wrote:soccer27, When you say Texans, which Texans team are you taking about?

Texans does not have a Gold/Silver team. They have Gall/Densk. And South. Wondering what league that dude's kid play's in. To leave out Odyssey (won every primetime tourney entered) and Solar Dynamo????

Getting sucked into this is really silly. All changes next year when we go to 9v9. Bigger fields make for different set up but probably not best for the kids. Hope coaches keep playing small sided in practice.

Soccer27 wrote:Merlin your are right where do they have the best schools? Parents send their kids to private schools believing that will be the better education. I dont believe they are all in N Dallas. My child does not go to a private school or in N Dallas. He is a product of DISD, good ole Oak Cliff. Since i have educators in my household we made sure to research the academics before going to that school

I do like ur pic Merlin! Have good friends who coach with Wizards

Yes sir, you can find good schools in OC! LOL


BTW, our team may not be the best out there right now, but I'd put our coach up against any other coach out there in terms of development.

Keep an eye on our team, we'll be up there when it counts!

FCdad

I am sorry to rain on your parade. My bb happens to start on one of the DA teams for a club not in danger of losing their fields any time soon. I am also a former collegiate baseball player and doubt seriously that I am among the most effeminate fathers on the sidelines. Though, I can get in touch with my femminine side without issue. In any event, my point if you read the post below where I call the OP a tool is that these continuous attempts at rating a team because it wins in SDL at 7 or 8 is pointless. If you want to discuss the merits of a coach and support how well he is able to develop a child and, perhaps even more importantly, keep that child engaged in soccer throughot his/her youth and beyond is excellent information for others to utilize. However, the attempts at providing good or truly useful information on a team/coach who trains 7 or 8 year olds based on their record on Sundays does not hold a lot of water to me. It seems more like a bubba trying to flaunt his cojones to the others. If I am feminine because of such beliefs, so be it. My original point is that the players change, even weekly. They develop and mature at different rates. They stop or start playing respective sports often. They change teams or play for more than one in SDL. They are not consistent. So, if you want to believe that because your child's current team, and really your child, will be top dog in classic or developmental academy or beyond because of their wins in SDL go right ahead. There is some land on Los Rios available to you. I would get more information out of knowing about a team or coach that seems successful at keeping boys engaged in activities, keeping the spirits of the boys up (and winning certainly helps no doubt), keeping their drive to be competitive, and has a great and fun group of families (with hot moms). Not trying to piss on anyone's party. Stating the facts.

Homerun, baseball dad! You go, girl! lol. Ranking 7,8 or 9 year olds is ridiculous. You're also correct that many rosters change from week to week as players move between teams. Keep it fun for your player at the younger ages and maybe, just maybe, one or two of them will still be around when all this really matters...For now, skills, skills, skills!

getafe01 wrote:FCdad

I am sorry to rain on your parade. My bb happens to start on one of the DA teams for a club not in danger of losing their fields any time soon. I am also a former collegiate baseball player and doubt seriously that I am among the most effeminate fathers on the sidelines. Though, I can get in touch with my femminine side without issue. In any event, my point if you read the post below where I call the OP a tool is that these continuous attempts at rating a team because it wins in SDL at 7 or 8 is pointless. If you want to discuss the merits of a coach and support how well he is able to develop a child and, perhaps even more importantly, keep that child engaged in soccer throughot his/her youth and beyond is excellent information for others to utilize. However, the attempts at providing good or truly useful information on a team/coach who trains 7 or 8 year olds based on their record on Sundays does not hold a lot of water to me. It seems more like a bubba trying to flaunt his cojones to the others. If I am feminine because of such beliefs, so be it. My original point is that the players change, even weekly. They develop and mature at different rates. They stop or start playing respective sports often. They change teams or play for more than one in SDL. They are not consistent. So, if you want to believe that because your child's current team, and really your child, will be top dog in classic or developmental academy or beyond because of their wins in SDL go right ahead. There is some land on Los Rios available to you. I would get more information out of knowing about a team or coach that seems successful at keeping boys engaged in activities, keeping the spirits of the boys up (and winning certainly helps no doubt), keeping their drive to be competitive, and has a great and fun group of families (with hot moms). Not trying to piss on anyone's party. Stating the facts.

I understand what you are saying, however, this message board has nothing to do with how kids are developing on the field. They are completely separate. This board is for adults to talk, debate, banter, talk smack, etc, etc. This board is not for kids. If adults want to keep standings and stats, let them do it. It's just for entertainment. If you don't like ratings, just move on to the next topic and don't read that thread.

We all know that development is number one, but when people come on here and pretend that they have 0% interest in winning, I call BS. I have taken my kid to many different open practices and every single coach says the same thing, "I focus on developing my players". And I believe them. I haven't met a coach yet that wasn't trying to develop their players. However, these same coaches get pissed and start screaming when their team allows a goal to be scored. It's just human nature. If your kid doesn't care about winning, you should immediately take him out of sports and find a different hobby, because he will not have the desire or passion to play for very long.
The last time I checked, practices and scrimmages were for teaching skills and developing players, and games were for teaching them how to win as a team. They go hand in hand.

And I will say it again, if someone rates soccer teams on an adult message board, it has zero affect on your kids development. The only thing it could affect is your ego.
Log onto a youth football or baseball forum and explain to the members that "you think it's unfair to rank teams or keep score" because "it affects your kids development". You'll be laughed off of their forum.

The United States produces the best players in the world in football, baseball, basketball, Golf, etc, etc. All of these pro athletes were on youth teams that were ranked from a young age and taught how to win. But for some reason in soccer, we have a bunch of pansies running things and they are scared to keep score and scared to hurt someones feelings. And it's kind of ironic, that soccer is the one sport in the U.S. where we can't produce world class athletes.

finish1 wrote:Homerun, baseball dad! You go, girl! lol. Ranking 7,8 or 9 year olds is ridiculous. You're also correct that many rosters change from week to week as players move between teams. Keep it fun for your player at the younger ages and maybe, just maybe, one or two of them will still be around when all this really matters...For now, skills, skills, skills!

I bet you get really pissed when they give out report cards at school. If your kids grades aren't as good as his classmates, it might hurt his future development at school. How dare them!
Your ego is why you are scared of rankings on an adult message board.

You can't deny that Winning is fun. My son has been on a bad team and the morale on that team was the worst I have ever seen and my boy did not have fun.
Winning and skills go hand in hand. Look at the top teams, you will see lots of skill and development.
If it's only about skills for your boy, then why is he playing on a team in an organized league? Find a good skills coach.

And maybe this age doesn't matter to you, but for many of us, this is a special time in our kids life.

I look forward to seeing your boy on American Idol someday. He will go an the show thinking he is a really good singer and will be publicly humiliated because no one ever had the nads to tell him where he really ranked in comparison to his fellow competitors.