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    N+1 for Andromeda Only

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    speed_kills

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    N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  speed_kills on Thu May 05, 2011 12:21 pm

    Can anybody confirm this?

    finish1

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  finish1 on Thu May 05, 2011 12:24 pm

    Ja

    Axxman

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Axxman on Thu May 05, 2011 12:35 pm

    Confirmed. Don't think it's for all Andro coaches though, just a select and "chosen" few.........

    The German

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  The German on Thu May 05, 2011 12:50 pm

    How can they do it only for a few selected ones?

    ontherightside

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  ontherightside on Thu May 05, 2011 1:17 pm

    Can someone tell me what N+1 means. I know it is in the CL rules, but I am too lazy to look it up. Thanks.

    P.S. If this means Marcio's teams are going to FCD - couldn't be happier to hear that!!!!

    playhard

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  playhard on Thu May 05, 2011 1:36 pm

    Actually, I heard he is back with the Texans.
    N+1 means that you need to carry 50% + 1 of your players to move your bye to a different club.
    It usually is 75%.
    Now watch the stampede of coaches and teams running to different clubs.
    Sad situation for Andro. A great club run into the grounds through bad management.

    ontherightside

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  ontherightside on Thu May 05, 2011 1:40 pm

    Thanks. I had heard the Texans rumor as well, but certainly now hearing a lot more saying FCD. Guess no one really knows. Hope he has lots of 99dob year players to get his 50% +1.

    Axxman

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Axxman on Thu May 05, 2011 1:45 pm

    We have the N+1 already.

    I think some are putting a little too much faith into pre-academy. How many spots do people think will be available to the younger 98s? Better keep your doors open.

    Axxman

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Axxman on Thu May 05, 2011 1:50 pm

    The German wrote:How can they do it only for a few selected ones?


    Cause that's usually how a monopoly works, they do what they want, when they want, and most importantly, favor the ones that will bring cash infusions...

    Stay thirsty my friend !

    go99

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  go99 on Thu May 05, 2011 1:54 pm

    Axxman wrote:We have the N+1 already.

    I think some are putting a little too much faith into pre-academy. How many spots do people think will be available to the younger 98s? Better keep your doors open.


    Welcome to the club. Plantit has your beers ready

    ontherightside

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  ontherightside on Thu May 05, 2011 1:58 pm

    See playhard - even Go thinks they are headed to FCD where BTW there will be plenty of room for younger 98s on the pre-academy. Just sayin Axx.

    Axxman

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Axxman on Thu May 05, 2011 2:00 pm

    go99 wrote:
    Axxman wrote:We have the N+1 already.

    I think some are putting a little too much faith into pre-academy. How many spots do people think will be available to the younger 98s? Better keep your doors open.


    Welcome to the club. Plantit has your beers ready


    That's the problem amigo, FCD is offering beers and what is required are caipirinhas!

    Marmaduke

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Marmaduke on Thu May 05, 2011 2:02 pm

    playhard wrote:Actually, I heard he is back with the Texans.
    N+1 means that you need to carry 50% + 1 of your players to move your bye to a different club.
    It usually is 75%.
    Now watch the stampede of coaches and teams running to different clubs.
    Sad situation for Andro. A great club run into the grounds through bad management.


    I don't see anywhere in the rules about a "N+1" clause.


    http://www.ccsai.org/documents/classic_league_rules_apr11final.pdf


    Parties Invited.
    a. Limited Conditional Transfer of Invitation (“75% Exception”).
    As set forth above, in the typical setting, invitations to submit an application to participate in the Classic League for the upcoming soccer year (based on a team’s prior year’s competitive CL RULES – PAGE 12 OF 31 April 2011
    performance) will be extended to the club for which that team played (and not the team itself). Provided, however, if 75% of the players on the roster3 of the team upon whose competitive performance the invitation to apply for a Bye Position was extended return to such team the following year, and such team will then be playing for a new club (including a one team club), then the invitation previously extended to the former club will follow such team to its new club (that is, the invitation will be conditionally “transferred” to the new club). To count as a ‘returning player’, a player must be officially rostered to such team (through such team’s home association) prior to the deadline for submission of such team’s Bye team application. Moreover, such player, his parents, and his team must all expect such player to be available on the sideline to play at the start of the Fall Season and generally for the remainder of the Fall Season. Classic League reserves the right to require sworn affidavits and such other proof from players, parents, and/or team officials, or to require attendance verification at each game. By the announced Bye application deadline, each such team must submit its official roster for the coming season (bearing the original signature of such team’s home association registrar) and that roster must reflect the names of all of the ‘returning players’ upon whom the asserted “transfer” of the invitation is based (that is, the roster must reflect the players who comprise the 75%). Failure to submit such roster by the deadline may result in a determination that the invitation (Bye Position) will remain with the former club (plus appropriate sanctions, if any).

    b. Changing Clubs During the Soccer Year.
    The Classic League will extend any invitation which is based on a team’s competitive performance to the club for which that team is playing as of January 1 of the current soccer year. If a team leaves a club during the soccer year, any and all steps required to be taken (including NTSSA rules and/or policies relating to the changing of a team’s name) must have been completed by January 1 of the current soccer year and all relevant paperwork turned in to the League office by that date. Notwithstanding, if a team leaves a club after January 1 of the current soccer year, the invitation to apply for a Bye Position is still subject to the Limited Conditional Transfer of Invitation (“75% Exception”) set for above in sub-paragraph ‘a’.

    c. Merger/Sale/Assignment and/or Other Transfers.
    There may be limited circumstances under which the Classic CL RULES – PAGE 13 OF 31 April 2011
    League will permit invitations issued to one club to be transferred to another club as a result of a merger of clubs. This will only be permitted in very limited circumstances to be decided on a case-by-case basis in the Board’s sole discretion. Invitations are not property rights and remain revocable at all times. Invitations are merely invitations to apply for a Bye Position. No person or entity should assume that an invitation extended by the Classic League may be transferred to another club (even in the face of an otherwise effective merger) without the prior written consent of the Classic League. ALL DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER TO PERMIT AN INVITATION TO BE TRANSFERRED FALL WITHIN THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE CLASSIC LEAGUE AND ITS DECISIONS ON THIS POINT ARE FINAL AND NON-APPEALABLE. In this connection, all persons and entities are advised that it is highly unlikely that the Classic League will permit the transfer of an invitation in a circumstance where less than 100% of the teams currently playing for a given club merge (or claimed to have merged) with another club (to whom it wishes to see the invitation transferred) . IN THE EVENT THAT A DISPUTE ARISES BETWEEN ANY INTERESTED PARTIES (INCLUDING CLUBS, TEAMS, PLAYERS, PARENTS, OR OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES) AS TO THE VALIDITY OF AN INVITATION (INCLUDING THE IDENTITY OF THE CLUB TO WHOM AN INVITATION HAS BEEN EXTENDED), THE CLASSIC LEAGUE SHALL HAVE THE SOLE RIGHT TO DETERMINE SUCH DISPUTE FINALLY AND CONCLUSIVELY IN THE UNFETTERED EXERCISE OF ITS DISCRETION.


    Axxman

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Axxman on Thu May 05, 2011 2:07 pm

    You know what they say about rules......

    N+1 is an old rule that was replaced by what you are posting. They are allowing Andro to go back to N+1 due to, ummmm, special circumstances.

    Marmaduke

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Marmaduke on Thu May 05, 2011 2:15 pm

    Axxman wrote:You know what they say about rules......

    N+1 is an old rule that was replaced by what you are posting. They are allowing Andro to go back to N+1 due to, ummmm, special circumstances.


    So does it mean all the Andro teams have to all go to the same club? Or as long has they have over 1/2 the team they go where they like or even go independent?


    The German

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  The German on Thu May 05, 2011 2:33 pm

    Marmaduke wrote:
    Axxman wrote:You know what they say about rules......

    N+1 is an old rule that was replaced by what you are posting. They are allowing Andro to go back to N+1 due to, ummmm, special circumstances.


    So does it mean all the Andro teams have to all go to the same club? Or as long has they have over 1/2 the team they go where they like or even go independent?

    It is my understanding that they can go to any club or independent unless the money comes in on Friday of course.

    go99

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  go99 on Thu May 05, 2011 2:50 pm

    actually thats next friday after the meeting this coming tuesday

    Soccernovice

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Soccernovice on Thu May 05, 2011 3:32 pm

    What happenned to Andromeda USSF academy teams do they stay at Andromeda or are they gone for next year?

    eagle

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  eagle on Thu May 05, 2011 3:54 pm

    Soccernovice wrote:What happenned to Andromeda USSF academy teams do they stay at Andromeda or are they gone for next year?

    They deemed the AYSES as the only club qualified to develop soccer players, so it was determined that the academy program will cease to exist, and the Federation will grab their players directly from the Ayses. Very Happy

    7thHeaven

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  7thHeaven on Thu May 05, 2011 5:01 pm

    And, why does Andromeda get this special situation? Because they managed their money poorly? Sounds like the US government...

    soccerrus2

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  soccerrus2 on Thu May 05, 2011 5:12 pm

    eagle wrote:
    Soccernovice wrote:What happenned to Andromeda USSF academy teams do they stay at Andromeda or are they gone for next year?

    They deemed the AYSES as the only club qualified to develop soccer players, so it was determined that the academy program will cease to exist, and the Federation will grab their players directly from the Ayses. Very Happy


    Brilliant!

    THE NEEDLE

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  THE NEEDLE on Thu May 05, 2011 5:28 pm

    soccerrus2 wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    Soccernovice wrote:What happenned to Andromeda USSF academy teams do they stay at Andromeda or are they gone for next year?

    They deemed the AYSES as the only club qualified to develop soccer players, so it was determined that the academy program will cease to exist, and the Federation will grab their players directly from the Ayses. Very Happy


    Brilliant!


    Get ready for Soccernovice Ayses propaganda er... marketing. Very Happy

    OnTheSurface

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  OnTheSurface on Thu May 05, 2011 11:45 pm

    eagle wrote:
    Soccernovice wrote:What happenned to Andromeda USSF academy teams do they stay at Andromeda or are they gone for next year?

    They deemed the AYSES as the only club qualified to develop soccer players, so it was determined that the academy program will cease to exist, and the Federation will grab their players directly from the Ayses. Very Happy

    lol! flower

    Axxman

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Axxman on Thu May 05, 2011 11:52 pm

    7thHeaven wrote:And, why does Andromeda get this special situation? Because they managed their money poorly? Sounds like the US government...



    Oh yes, lets make the kids pay because some nitwit is power hungry and couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. Sounds like the US Government to me.

    Soccernovice

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  Soccernovice on Fri May 06, 2011 12:20 am

    Just call it like I see em. I assume that means I am correct again in what I stated.

    TX_Wombat

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  TX_Wombat on Fri May 06, 2011 6:57 am

    Does anyone have any definitive insight into any teams that have (or are in process of) departing Andro?

    clueless

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  clueless on Fri May 06, 2011 9:36 am

    Our team's first choice was Ayses, as our style of play is consistent with their philosophy. However, upon inspection, apparently we win too much, so we weren't a candidate.

    soccer4fun

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  soccer4fun on Fri May 06, 2011 10:20 am

    TX_Wombat wrote:Does anyone have any definitive insight into any teams that have (or are in process of) departing Andro?


    Heard yesterday the 95 girls have moved to Sting and that two or three academy teams have landed at Liverpool. I suspect June 1 the gates will open.

    TX_Wombat

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  TX_Wombat on Fri May 06, 2011 10:22 am

    I also know that the '00 girls went to Sting as well.

    futbolnutt

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    Re: N+1 for Andromeda Only

    Post  futbolnutt on Fri May 06, 2011 10:37 am

    clueless wrote:Our team's first choice was Ayses, as our style of play is consistent with their philosophy. However, upon inspection, apparently we win too much, so we weren't a candidate.


    lol!

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