7th Heaven that has to be the stupidest comment I have seen on this blog. Do you think the kids or parents managed the fund themselves??/ Do you want to punish the kids that worked this hard and the coaches that didn’t get paid ?? I wish you worked for me, if I don't pay my bills I guess its good to just garnish your wages.
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R1- Posts: 179
Join date: 2009-06-29
Wow wrote:7th Heaven that has to be the stupidest comment I have seen on this blog. Do you think the kids or parents managed the fund themselves??/ Do you want to punish the kids that worked this hard and the coaches that didn’t get paid ?? I wish you worked for me, if I don't pay my bills I guess its good to just garnish your wages.
I took the point as being that an independent team or small club team that didn't keep their full 75% would lose their spot. In other words, they are making an exception to the rule for the Andromeda teams because their club fell apart. But if a small club fell apart, or an independent with just 1-2 teams started to fall apart, they's be SOL - no exception for the small fries - but that could be a generalization - and maybe they would make the same exception for small clubs or independents, especially now that they have made a precedent in this situation (if this exception story is true).
7thHeaven- Posts: 20
Join date: 2009-06-22
Wow wrote:7th Heaven that has to be the stupidest comment I have seen on this blog. Do you think the kids or parents managed the fund themselves??/ Do you want to punish the kids that worked this hard and the coaches that didn’t get paid ?? I wish you worked for me, if I don't pay my bills I guess its good to just garnish your wages.
Well, if I worked for you and our company didn't pay its bills, then there would be no company and neither one of us would have a job. Is it fair to punish me since I did my job but the company couldn't handle its money???
I'm just wondering why if the powers that be thought that the 75% rule made more sense than the old N+1, why not just still enforce the 75% rule here? Or, change it back to the N+1 rule for everyone.
Wow- Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-08-17
You are making my exact point??? If you did your job you should not be punished. Andromeda Kids and coaches did their job - they should not be punished either. So I agree with the reduction of required players for them or any other team that ran into the same situation.
Axxman- Posts: 983
Join date: 2009-07-09
clueless wrote:Our team's first choice was Ayses, as our style of play is consistent with their philosophy. However, upon inspection, apparently we win too much, so we weren't a candidate.
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7thHeaven- Posts: 20
Join date: 2009-06-22
Wow wrote:You are making my exact point??? If you did your job you should not be punished. Andromeda Kids and coaches did their job - they should not be punished either. So I agree with the reduction of required players for them or any other team that ran into the same situation.
I don't think I am making your exact point. If the company goes under, I DO lose my job and I AM punished. However, that isn't the intent of my original post. I'm still wondering why Andro gets to use the N+1 rule as opposed to the 75% rule. Perhaps there is a good reason, I just don't know what that is....yet. I'm sure someone will chime in and let me know.
anselansel- Posts: 422
Join date: 2010-10-01
Location: driving a kid to practice again
"I don't think I am making your exact point. If the company goes under, I DO lose my job and I AM punished. However, that isn't the intent of my original post. I'm still wondering why Andro gets to use the N+1 rule as opposed to the 75% rule. Perhaps there is a good reason, I just don't know what that is....yet. I'm sure someone will chime in and let me know. Smile"
rules are just guidelines to help things run consistently. when special circumstances arise, common sense revises the rules to better the outcome for all involved. nothing worse than a rule is a rule mentality when the boat is sinking, much like saying union rules don't allow me to bail water out of a sinking ship. This whole n texas structure is for as many kids as possible to play soccer, not having a pissing contest over paragraph b subsection a , line 4 etc. the more kids playing the better off we all are
Axxman- Posts: 983
Join date: 2009-07-09
7thHeaven wrote:Wow wrote:7th Heaven that has to be the stupidest comment I have seen on this blog. Do you think the kids or parents managed the fund themselves??/ Do you want to punish the kids that worked this hard and the coaches that didn’t get paid ?? I wish you worked for me, if I don't pay my bills I guess its good to just garnish your wages.
Well, if I worked for you and our company didn't pay its bills, then there would be no company and neither one of us would have a job. Is it fair to punish me since I did my job but the company couldn't handle its money???
I'm just wondering why if the powers that be thought that the 75% rule made more sense than the old N+1, why not just still enforce the 75% rule here? Or, change it back to the N+1 rule for everyone.
I can see both sides as we have been thru the small independant club that has teams fall apart as well. But in this case, the club was run into the ground at no fault of parents, kids, or coaches (well the majority of them anyhow). If a small independant club had the same circumstances and the team wanted to stay together, the coach could just keep on going if that's what he wanted to do. The coach would just have to figure out if it was financially viable for him and if not, the team could find another coach and proceed. Keep in mind that each team's circumstances were studied individually and considered when exceptions were made, thus it's not a blanket deal for all Andromeda teams. In the specific case of our 99s, there was a new wrench thrown into the equation called "pre-academy". I believe a good 75% of our roster is 98 birth year so the potential exists to lose some of those players to pre-academy which would make it difficult to keep our bye under the 75% rule. There are always going to be a couple unhappy kids that leave the team regardless as well.
Wow- Posts: 6
Join date: 2010-08-17
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jeffm- Posts: 11
Join date: 2011-03-31
soccer4fun wrote:TX_Wombat wrote:Does anyone have any definitive insight into any teams that have (or are in process of) departing Andro?
Heard yesterday the 95 girls have moved to Sting and that two or three academy teams have landed at Liverpool. I suspect June 1 the gates will open.
Oddly, Sting only added Ferretti's '96 and '00 teams to their website.
TX_Wombat- Posts: 13
Join date: 2011-03-31
It appears (oddly, I might add) that Bruno's 95G Andro team went to FCD (see Got Soccer team page):
http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=118284&History=yes
http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=118284&History=yes
jeffm- Posts: 11
Join date: 2011-03-31
TX_Wombat wrote:It appears (oddly, I might add) that Bruno's 95G Andro team went to FCD (see Got Soccer team page):
http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=118284&History=yes
I don't think that they updated it from the time they came to Andromeda from FCD.
MyBigToeHurts- Posts: 9
Join date: 2009-09-29
I don't understand why you boys are piling on AYSES.... isn't Andromeda the club that failed? I thought AYSES was still going strong.Axxman wrote:clueless wrote:Our team's first choice was Ayses, as our style of play is consistent with their philosophy. However, upon inspection, apparently we win too much, so we weren't a candidate.
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soccermom040- Posts: 103
Join date: 2009-07-26
Has CL decided if the "club bye" rule will stay in place for the rest of the league?
Last I heard, CL was contemplating on taking club byes away from those clubs that went pre-academy. Not sure if that would mean all club byes or just the U13-15 byes.
Last I heard, CL was contemplating on taking club byes away from those clubs that went pre-academy. Not sure if that would mean all club byes or just the U13-15 byes.
clueless- Posts: 445
Join date: 2009-08-06
MyBigToeHurts wrote:I don't understand why you boys are piling on AYSES.... isn't Andromeda the club that failed? I thought AYSES was still going strong.Axxman wrote:clueless wrote:Our team's first choice was Ayses, as our style of play is consistent with their philosophy. However, upon inspection, apparently we win too much, so we weren't a candidate.
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Get serious, we aren't piling on a club, we are piling on the posts. You can't be sensitive about your club if you are going to read these threads. The difference between clubs, parents is razor thin between club....Financials aside!
If it makes you feel any better - read every post as someone being jealous of that club - it should help.
happyfeet- Posts: 396
Join date: 2009-07-06
The league has not yet made a firm decision on how this will be handled. Any decision made will be what the board feels is in the best interest of the league. Contrary to some people's perception, it has nothing to do with big club versus small club. Logic will tell you, however, that there will be times when a decision made for a 20 team club may not be the same decision for a single team club...strictly because of the number of children involved.
soccermom040- Posts: 103
Join date: 2009-07-26
Seems consistent with the Andro decision... that affects a lot of kids also.
Is the age groups that this decision will affect also still up in the air? Or are we focusing on U13-15 byes?
Was there a big debate in regards to club byes when the U16 & U18 academy's hit town? I'm not trying to poke a sleep bear, just trying to understand the situation.
Is the age groups that this decision will affect also still up in the air? Or are we focusing on U13-15 byes?
Was there a big debate in regards to club byes when the U16 & U18 academy's hit town? I'm not trying to poke a sleep bear, just trying to understand the situation.
happyfeet- Posts: 396
Join date: 2009-07-06
This comes as a surprise to some, but the board had ZERO notice of the DA being launched in TX. The board had already passed the 75% rule when it was announced, so there was no debate. The bye decision would have likely had a different outcome if we knew the DA was coming. As an aside, the 75% rule was supported overwhelmingly by both large and small clubs in the coaches' meetings back then.
As I mentioned previously, no decision has been made for this year regarding the pre-academy ages, so I can't add anything further.
As I mentioned previously, no decision has been made for this year regarding the pre-academy ages, so I can't add anything further.
txlongball- Posts: 53
Join date: 2010-04-20
happyfeet wrote:This comes as a surprise to some, but the board had ZERO notice of the DA being launched in TX. The board had already passed the 75% rule when it was announced, so there was no debate. The bye decision would have likely had a different outcome if we knew the DA was coming. As an aside, the 75% rule was supported overwhelmingly by both large and small clubs in the coaches' meetings back then.
As I mentioned previously, no decision has been made for this year regarding the pre-academy ages, so I can't add anything further.
I am confused.
1.) Did Andromeda get the N+1 / 50% option for their teams?
2.) What possible benefit is there to the Classic league (and the teams) not letting FCD, Texans and Solar keep their D1 byes because they are forming Pre-Acadamey team that cross multiple NTX soccer years (birth year versus soccer 99s/98s/97s)?
What am I missing?
clueless- Posts: 445
Join date: 2009-08-06
It likely won't affect my kid in his current situation, but, doesn't it make sense that any entity (CCSAI in this instance) would cater to their best client(s)?
If only from a standpoint of competitiveness, it makes sense that the board would look at all options and try to stabilize a potentially unstable flood of free agents and orphaned byes.
Would a top team cut in half be better than the third place D2 team (assuming a D1 bye would be replaced by a promoted D2 team). My guess is that most of the time the D1 team would have to do very little recruiting to fill the roster but would be better than the promoted team regardless.
Just wonder what a mess this whole Classic/Academy thing will look like in 2 years (good luck to everyone whose kids will likely be playing in Europe after their short stay at a major college).
If only from a standpoint of competitiveness, it makes sense that the board would look at all options and try to stabilize a potentially unstable flood of free agents and orphaned byes.
Would a top team cut in half be better than the third place D2 team (assuming a D1 bye would be replaced by a promoted D2 team). My guess is that most of the time the D1 team would have to do very little recruiting to fill the roster but would be better than the promoted team regardless.
Just wonder what a mess this whole Classic/Academy thing will look like in 2 years (good luck to everyone whose kids will likely be playing in Europe after their short stay at a major college).
happyfeet- Posts: 396
Join date: 2009-07-06
txlongball wrote:happyfeet wrote:This comes as a surprise to some, but the board had ZERO notice of the DA being launched in TX. The board had already passed the 75% rule when it was announced, so there was no debate. The bye decision would have likely had a different outcome if we knew the DA was coming. As an aside, the 75% rule was supported overwhelmingly by both large and small clubs in the coaches' meetings back then.
As I mentioned previously, no decision has been made for this year regarding the pre-academy ages, so I can't add anything further.
I am confused.
1.) Did Andromeda get the N+1 / 50% option for their teams?
2.) What possible benefit is there to the Classic league (and the teams) not letting FCD, Texans and Solar keep their D1 byes because they are forming Pre-Acadamey team that cross multiple NTX soccer years (birth year versus soccer 99s/98s/97s)?
What am I missing?
1) Yes (some teams)
2) No one ever said this. No decisions have been made
R1- Posts: 179
Join date: 2009-06-29
happyfeet wrote:The league has not yet made a firm decision on how this will be handled. Any decision made will be what the board feels is in the best interest of the league. Contrary to some people's perception, it has nothing to do with big club versus small club. Logic will tell you, however, that there will be times when a decision made for a 20 team club may not be the same decision for a single team club...strictly because of the number of children involved.
I understand that rationale. But what I bet will likely happen is that several of these Andro teams will go to the Texans, FC Dallas, etc, and those clubs will poach off the best players to their "A" teams, etc - then the skeleton crew that is left will have several bail out as they see their studs poached away, and then Texans will fill in the D1 and D2 Andro slots with whoever can pay - so you will end up with terrible teams in some of those slots that should belong to teams below who should have been promoted up to fill in. But thats just speculation, I'm sure that kind of thing would never happen in real life.
soccergrinder- Posts: 188
Join date: 2010-04-10
Soccernovice wrote:Just call it like I see em. I assume that means I am correct again in what I stated.
When have you EVER been right. How about your latest statement that either the Texans or Solar was going under because they cannot afford to put their girls teams into a national league. That's my favorite. But the idea that the Texans and Solar need to give up their Academy teams so their players could play high school is right up there too. Of course the real answer is if they were all over at AYSES them they could all go straight to the pros with their awesome skills.
txlongball- Posts: 53
Join date: 2010-04-20
happyfeet wrote:txlongball wrote:happyfeet wrote:This comes as a surprise to some, but the board had ZERO notice of the DA being launched in TX. The board had already passed the 75% rule when it was announced, so there was no debate. The bye decision would have likely had a different outcome if we knew the DA was coming. As an aside, the 75% rule was supported overwhelmingly by both large and small clubs in the coaches' meetings back then.
As I mentioned previously, no decision has been made for this year regarding the pre-academy ages, so I can't add anything further.
I am confused.
1.) Did Andromeda get the N+1 / 50% option for their teams?
2.) What possible benefit is there to the Classic league (and the teams) not letting FCD, Texans and Solar keep their D1 byes because they are forming Pre-Acadamey team that cross multiple NTX soccer years (birth year versus soccer 99s/98s/97s)?
What am I missing?
1) Yes (some teams)
2) No one ever said this. No decisions have been made - my question is why would it even be a consideration that has to be decided on? Or, is it just a rumor that CL is considering revoking their byes?
ph223048- Posts: 156
Join date: 2009-07-23
Age: 40
Location: Wherever you need me to be
Why not let all of the kids play high school ball?
Here is what will happen. About 30% of the Academy Players will go and play college or semi-pro ball right out of high school. Then the next year, you will only have about 3%-5% that will actually continue after that. Why destroy the opportunity to touch the ball more times, hang with your friends, show-off to your girl or boyfriend, and actually get better, because of the lower speed of play. My son was invited to tryout for an academy team, but I will not let him lose that social connection the kids need, no matter what age or skill level.
So, I guess we need to call up Mexico and Brazil and tell them that there will not be anymore street ball and you must wear cleats and shin guards all of the time or you will not be a top performer. What is wrong with our program on a national level, as with any other program we have in place for development? We put to many restrictions on everything, and we try to control everything in a negative way. This is a sad day in USSF soccer development when you start to tell players they can't play with their friends.
How do you plan around all of this and allow the kids to play in other leagues? Play in the Summer in the Northern states. No one has a season going on at that time. Any thoughts on this?
Here is what will happen. About 30% of the Academy Players will go and play college or semi-pro ball right out of high school. Then the next year, you will only have about 3%-5% that will actually continue after that. Why destroy the opportunity to touch the ball more times, hang with your friends, show-off to your girl or boyfriend, and actually get better, because of the lower speed of play. My son was invited to tryout for an academy team, but I will not let him lose that social connection the kids need, no matter what age or skill level.
So, I guess we need to call up Mexico and Brazil and tell them that there will not be anymore street ball and you must wear cleats and shin guards all of the time or you will not be a top performer. What is wrong with our program on a national level, as with any other program we have in place for development? We put to many restrictions on everything, and we try to control everything in a negative way. This is a sad day in USSF soccer development when you start to tell players they can't play with their friends.
How do you plan around all of this and allow the kids to play in other leagues? Play in the Summer in the Northern states. No one has a season going on at that time. Any thoughts on this?
go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
Well I am sure you son appreciates you deciding what he wants for him
ph223048- Posts: 156
Join date: 2009-07-23
Age: 40
Location: Wherever you need me to be
go99 wrote:Well I am sure you son appreciates you deciding what he wants for him
No he did not like the decision by USSF, nor did his high school coach, but I do appreciate your wife's booty dancing for me everytime you post, or maybe that is your sister.
futbolnutt- Posts: 145
Join date: 2009-06-21
ph223048 wrote:go99 wrote:Well I am sure you son appreciates you deciding what he wants for him
No he did not like the decision by USSF, nor did his high school coach, but I do appreciate your wife's booty dancing for me everytime you post, or maybe that is your sister.
No need for the hate PH. That's what choices are all about. My two BBs chose Classic and HS over Academy also AND are happy with their decision.
go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
ph223048 wrote:go99 wrote:Well I am sure you son appreciates you deciding what he wants for him
No he did not like the decision by USSF, nor did his high school coach, but I do appreciate your wife's booty dancing for me everytime you post, or maybe that is your sister.
wrong on both accounts, it's actually your mom. Happy mothers day
clueless- Posts: 445
Join date: 2009-08-06
For the record, I like to think 'sister'.
Is it just me, or is anyone else having trouble sleeping since Go changed his avatar?
Is it just me, or is anyone else having trouble sleeping since Go changed his avatar?