If anyone knows how to contact this team please send me a PM.

Was looking to scrimmage them but nevermind. thnx buddy

Seinfeld4 wrote:They have some strong players and some really dirty players. Played them on two seperate teams. Both games a player left the field with a broken ankle. Both times a very late slide tackle from behind when the ball had been gone for 2-3 seconds. Sad!

are they dirty players? or just inexperienced players trying real hard to impress the coach,mom and dad??

Seinfeld4 wrote:I guess the definition depends on perspective. One injury happened in October and the other in April. In that time frame I would suggest the coach or parent could correct that behavior or it could be the behavior is encouraged. I have no idea. I personally saw both injuries and I would define the tackles as dirty with intent to injure.

every team seems to have that one or two kids that just have "intense contact desire" lol the only coaches that I have ever heard teach "fouls" are big club coaches! Pachuca in not what i would call a dirty team but just a team with less skilled players that try very hard to compete! IMO that is!

Are there multiple 99 Pachuca Teams? We played a 99 Pachuca in a tourney few weeks ago and beat them 4-0. My son was guesting with a 00 D-3 team. They had a forward who mustve been 6'3" 275. Didn't think they particularly dirty. Same team?

jimulon6 wrote:Are there multiple 99 Pachuca Teams? We played a 99 Pachuca in a tourney few weeks ago and beat them 4-0. My son was guesting with a 00 D-3 team. They had a forward who mustve been 6'3" 275. Didn't think they particularly dirty. Same team?

if he was guest playing with hurst united then it sure looks that way from their gotsoccer record!

omega striker wrote:

jimulon6 wrote:Are there multiple 99 Pachuca Teams? We played a 99 Pachuca in a tourney few weeks ago and beat them 4-0. My son was guesting with a 00 D-3 team. They had a forward who mustve been 6'3" 275. Didn't think they particularly dirty. Same team?

if he was guest playing with hurst united then it sure looks that way from their gotsoccer record!

Yes we did play w/ Hurst, guess it is the same team. Not a bad team. that one big guy for them towered over our coaches!

jimulon6 wrote:

omega striker wrote:

jimulon6 wrote:Are there multiple 99 Pachuca Teams? We played a 99 Pachuca in a tourney few weeks ago and beat them 4-0. My son was guesting with a 00 D-3 team. They had a forward who mustve been 6'3" 275. Didn't think they particularly dirty. Same team?

if he was guest playing with hurst united then it sure looks that way from their gotsoccer record!

Yes we did play w/ Hurst, guess it is the same team. Not a bad team. that one big guy for them towered over our coaches!

guess it didn't matter did it?

Yup, that's us. The tall player that you are referring to is 12yrs old and is a great kid. When he started playing with our team, he couldn't last more than 5mins. on the pitch. He's sure come a long way.

As to the comments made by @seinfeld4, the comments are completely untrue. In fact, we have the videos for most of our games this season. We are currently in the process of putting a website together, so the videos of our season games will be uploaded to www.youtube.com. We will post all the details here as soon as they become available.

Back in April, we played at the Elite Tournament and beat a Liverpool team (@seinfeld4's team) that took the defeat pretty badly. So much so, that a Liverpool player initiated a fight with one of our boys, at which point the ref called the game. The funny thing is, the video shows that the Liverpool team was displaying unsportsmanlike conduct throughout. We encourage everyone to watch the video and judge for themselves. Given the nature of @seinfeld4's comments, we plan to post the youtube link here before the website is complete, hopefully by the end of this weekend.

It's worth noting that we understand the need for fierce competition on the pitch and that our past experiences with Liverpool as a club have been welcomed for their competitive nature. But the Liverpool team that we faced as of late is doing a disservice to the club's reputation.

Thanks guys (and gals).

Seinfeld4 wrote:My son has never played for Liverpool. I was referring to the October 9 game vs. Triumph. I realize now that I wrote "played on two seperate teams" - I meant that I had watched them play on two seperat occasions. I apologize for that being misleading. That was my mistake.

I would love to see video's from both games if they are available. If the camera was anywhere close to the play in the Triumph game you will hear the leg break. I was standing on the sidelines where it happened. I was standing about 60 yards from the play and clearly heard the leg break.

Honestly, I am not familiar with this game. However, I am hopeful that I have the video. Please provide me your team colors and as much information from the game in question so that I may review it this weekend. Good or bad, I will post the video and let the facts speak for themselves.

Without having watched the video recently, I can say that labeling a team "dirty" is a serious accusation. Harsh words undermine the hard work of many good people, even without any evidence to support them. As many people are aware, small clubs like ours have to work at least twice as hard as the big clubs, and even harder still when misleading information is given out.

As a wise man once said,"...don't know that it is fair to throw someone under the bus if we don't know all the facts." -seinfeld4

http://www.txsoccer.info/t2854p30-30th-annual-carey-invitational-u12-boys-accepted-teams mid-page

Seinfeld4 wrote:

Seinfeld4 wrote:They have some strong players and some really dirty players. Played them on two seperate teams. Both games a player left the field with a broken ankle. Both times a very late slide tackle from behind when the ball had been gone for 2-3 seconds. Sad!

You are right that is a very harsh term to use for a 12 year old child. I apologize for using that term. Watching the tackles in real time I believe the tackles were very late with intent to injure. I have always labeled those type of tackles as dirty.

All that I can say is that in the heat of the moment, many times our competitive juices are flowing and we see what we want to see and not what actually took place.

This has happened to me many times. This is one of the reasons why we choose to record as many games as we can and suspend our judgment until after we review the facts.

Going forward, please be encouraged to contact us with any concerns regarding our team. We encourage an open dialogue within as well as without. When given the opportunity, if there is ever a situation on or off the pitch that can be interpreted as even minutely hostile, we will be the first to apologize and offer a reasonable solution to the situation.

Seinfeld4 wrote:I agree. A lot of times our perception of reality is based on what color jersey we are cheering for. Next time my son plays Pachuca I will send you a PM and we can meet. I truly appreciate your outlook

Thank you. I look forward to it.

pachuca_fc_99 wrote:

Seinfeld4 wrote:I agree. A lot of times our perception of reality is based on what color jersey we are cheering for. Next time my son plays Pachuca I will send you a PM and we can meet. I truly appreciate your outlook

Thank you. I look forward to it.

SNIFFLE, SNIFFLE I'm getting choked up. The Bromance is touching..

plantit wrote:

pachuca_fc_99 wrote:

Seinfeld4 wrote:I agree. A lot of times our perception of reality is based on what color jersey we are cheering for. Next time my son plays Pachuca I will send you a PM and we can meet. I truly appreciate your outlook

Thank you. I look forward to it.

SNIFFLE, SNIFFLE I'm getting choked up. The Bromance is touching..

Seinfeld, I believe Puchuca is helping make your point. The facts as you witnessed them are two broken ankles in two games versus their team. That's a red flag to me.


The need for the team to record their games and post them on youtube to "suspend judgement" is, by itself, acknowlegement of a problem. By their own admission, these circumstances have happened "many times". Thanks for the heads up.

finish1 wrote:Seinfeld, I believe Puchuca is helping make your point. The facts as you witnessed them are two broken ankles in two games versus their team. That's a red flag to me.


The need for the team to record their games and post them on youtube to "suspend judgement" is, by itself, acknowlegement of a problem. By their own admission, these circumstances have happened "many times". Thanks for the heads up.

huh? more than likely they have video tape from a proud parent watching the game?

omega striker wrote:

finish1 wrote:Seinfeld, I believe Puchuca is helping make your point. The facts as you witnessed them are two broken ankles in two games versus their team. That's a red flag to me.


The need for the team to record their games and post them on youtube to "suspend judgement" is, by itself, acknowlegement of a problem. By their own admission, these circumstances have happened "many times". Thanks for the heads up.

huh? more than likely they have video tape from a proud parent watching the game?

The posts from Seinfeld and Pachuca paint the picture of a team surrounded by rough play. Proud Mary keeps on rollin'

finish1 wrote:Seinfeld, I believe Puchuca is helping make your point. The facts as you witnessed them are two broken ankles in two games versus their team. That's a red flag to me.


The need for the team to record their games and post them on youtube to "suspend judgement" is, by itself, acknowlegement of a problem. By their own admission, these circumstances have happened "many times". Thanks for the heads up.

@seinfeld4: You are a great guy and I look forward to meeting you.

@finish1: This thing has a built in spell-checker, so how did you misspell "judgment" and "acknowledgment"? My guess is that your decision-making skills are no better...

I am still waiting on a replay. Pachuca please respond to my PM and dont listen to all these folks cryin about physical play. They obviously dont know soccer as well as they think.

sorry meant to say REPLY

My BB has played against both Pachuca and Triumph multiple times and they play very different styles of soccer but I would not say Pachuca is in any way any "dirtier" than any of the other teams we played against including Triumph. I don't care what team you play on or against, there will always be the "more aggressive,frustrated or less skilled" player/s that gets carried away during a game just like there are always a couple parents that are over the top on the sidelines. @Pachuca props for posting the video so this incident can be seen for what it is one way or another.