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    Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

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    soccertime

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    Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  soccertime on Tue May 10, 2011 2:58 pm

    Hearing alot of back chatter about coaches moving to Texans, I would personally welcome some change, over the last two years our coaches have been less than great. Gall was talked up as the next big thing... everyone bought in and watched with anticipation of the great season ahead. All we got was a big ego that went MIA in the spring.

    The only one carrying the torch for Gall these day is PP. So here we are at a major crossroad and I'm not liking what I'm hearing. Pre-Academy is going to be implemented, possibly splitting our team in half, we are being told Hassan will coach. Who will coach the Classic League team?

    I was excited to hear that ML might be coming back and we may get a chance to have him develop our boys, but as soon as I heard he was coming back PP starts an anti ML campain behind the scene. So I have two questions:

    1. What is PP deal with ML?

    2. Why does Hassan not realize that he is being played?


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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  gababa on Tue May 10, 2011 3:10 pm

    Gee that's a bit personal isn't it ? How about running a Tv adds ?
    That being said I don't think I will ever watch trash TV again, nothing beats youth soccer in texas !

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  soccertime on Tue May 10, 2011 3:13 pm

    gababa wrote:Gee that's a bit personal isn't it ? How about running a Tv adds ?
    That being said I don't think I will ever watch trash TV again, nothing beats youth soccer in texas !



    Yes it is personal, we are dealing with my son.

    futbolnutt

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  futbolnutt on Tue May 10, 2011 3:17 pm

    soccertime wrote:
    gababa wrote:Gee that's a bit personal isn't it ? How about running a Tv adds ?
    That being said I don't think I will ever watch trash TV again, nothing beats youth soccer in texas !



    Yes it is personal, we are dealing with my son.


    It's best to get the parents to get the manager to request a meeting with HN. HN will be more than happy to do it; and make sure your voices are heard (ie., don't go silent in the meeting).

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  BlueBandit on Tue May 10, 2011 3:33 pm

    soccertime wrote:Hearing alot of back chatter about coaches moving to Texans, I would personally welcome some change, over the last two years our coaches have been less than great. Gall was talked up as the next big thing... everyone bought in and watched with anticipation of the great season ahead. All we got was a big ego that went MIA in the spring.

    The only one carrying the torch for Gall these day is PP. So here we are at a major crossroad and I'm not liking what I'm hearing. Pre-Academy is going to be implemented, possibly splitting our team in half, we are being told Hassan will coach. Who will coach the Classic League team?

    I was excited to hear that ML might be coming back and we may get a chance to have him develop our boys, but as soon as I heard he was coming back PP starts an anti ML campain behind the scene. So I have two questions:

    1. What is PP deal with ML?

    2. Why does Hassan not realize that he is being played?



    1. My 99 boy trained with ML and we think he is the best skill trainer in the metroplex for youth players bar none. If I think you are referring to a parent, "PP", than I believe that person has 3 or 4 kids playing for the Texans, that is a huge expense for a family per year. I am not sure he that parent, "PP", has a kid in the 00 or 99 age bracket but that may answer your question in terms of ML being the sole coach of the team he runs.

    2. Again if that parent has 3 or 4 kids in that club that should answer your question about the money involved.

    If you can shed more light on which Gall team you are referring to I can voice my opinion further. Gall has currently the 00 and 99 teams.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  ontherightside on Tue May 10, 2011 3:34 pm

    soccertime wrote:Hearing alot of back chatter about coaches moving to Texans, I would personally welcome some change, over the last two years our coaches have been less than great. Gall was talked up as the next big thing... everyone bought in and watched with anticipation of the great season ahead. All we got was a big ego that went MIA in the spring.

    The only one carrying the torch for Gall these day is PP. So here we are at a major crossroad and I'm not liking what I'm hearing. Pre-Academy is going to be implemented, possibly splitting our team in half, we are being told Hassan will coach. Who will coach the Classic League team?

    I was excited to hear that ML might be coming back and we may get a chance to have him develop our boys, but as soon as I heard he was coming back PP starts an anti ML campain behind the scene. So I have two questions:

    1. What is PP deal with ML?

    2. Why does Hassan not realize that he is being played?


    Who is playing who here? Me thinks you are "playing" this forum with your "we" BS.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  Marmaduke on Tue May 10, 2011 3:42 pm

    soccertime wrote:Hearing alot of back chatter about coaches moving to Texans, I would personally welcome some change, over the last two years our coaches have been less than great. Gall was talked up as the next big thing... everyone bought in and watched with anticipation of the great season ahead. All we got was a big ego that went MIA in the spring.

    The only one carrying the torch for Gall these day is PP. So here we are at a major crossroad and I'm not liking what I'm hearing. Pre-Academy is going to be implemented, possibly splitting our team in half, we are being told Hassan will coach. Who will coach the Classic League team?

    I was excited to hear that ML might be coming back and we may get a chance to have him develop our boys, but as soon as I heard he was coming back PP starts an anti ML campain behind the scene. So I have two questions:

    1. What is PP deal with ML?

    2. Why does Hassan not realize that he is being played?



    My guess would be that PP has an issue with ML since he bailed on the '00 team that he was turning over to him and the Texans when he jumped to Andro.


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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  cleatsup on Tue May 10, 2011 4:06 pm

    The reason PP is now panicking is because when ML first starting looking into Andromeda, PP had promised ML that the 00s would go with him wherever he went.
    PP didn’t follow through and left ML hanging.
    If ML goes back to the Texans, PP fears that his bb will be left behind.
    Everything PP does is targeted to form the best team around his bb.

    stumpyD

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  stumpyD on Tue May 10, 2011 4:17 pm

    futbolnutt wrote:
    soccertime wrote:
    gababa wrote:Gee that's a bit personal isn't it ? How about running a Tv adds ?
    That being said I don't think I will ever watch trash TV again, nothing beats youth soccer in texas !



    Yes it is personal, we are dealing with my son.


    It's best to get the parents to get the manager to request a meeting with HN. HN will be more than happy to do it; and make sure your voices are heard (ie., don't go silent in the meeting).


    I'm with rightside on this one. If this were a parent they would know who is coaching the classic league team because we were told on Monday night who it is. IF they were at the meeting they also had plenty of opportunity to say all of these things to Hassan. I also don't think Hassan is making decisions based PP. Hassan doesn't need PP to tell him what ML did a year ago.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  ontherightside on Tue May 10, 2011 4:21 pm

    How do you move to the next level?
    soccertime on Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:12 pm
    My bb has played with his current team for about 2 years. We are at a cross road of what to do, he is one of the better players on his current team and enjoys all the friendships he has made. I think the coaching has been good over the last few years but I feel he is falling behind. I have been watching kids from many of the top teams over the last year and they seem to be improving rapidly yet my bb is improving at a slower pace. So as I see it we have two options:
    1. Pay for some private skills outside of the club we are with.
    2. Move to another team, disrupting our current team and hoping he fits in with a new one.
    I would really appreciate anyones thoughts!

    So...soccertime has the coaching been good or not...make up your mind.

    You, my friend, are an anonymous LIAR.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  stumpyD on Tue May 10, 2011 4:28 pm

    cleatsup wrote:The reason PP is now panicking is because when ML first starting looking into Andromeda, PP had promised ML that the 00s would go with him wherever he went.
    PP didn’t follow through and left ML hanging.
    If ML goes back to the Texans, PP fears that his bb will be left behind.
    Everything PP does is targeted to form the best team around his bb.


    I doubt he is panicking. PP's 00 will not be left behind. If ML goes to the Texans, can't imagine he would be given Gall's team after leaving them hanging. I am sure part of the deal would include him bringing his own 00 Andro team.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  THE NEEDLE on Tue May 10, 2011 4:35 pm

    Get your popcorn ready! This should be entertaining.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  cleatsup on Tue May 10, 2011 4:39 pm

    I am not saying ML would take Gall's team, but potentially some of Gall's players might be interested in switching to ML's team, therefore weakening JG's team.
    Again, ML did not leave the 00s hanging.
    When he signed the deal with Andromeda, he was under the assumption that the 00s would go with him.
    He was misled by PP.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  go99 on Tue May 10, 2011 4:40 pm

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    "Every that has transpired has done so according to my design"-HN

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  socmom3 on Tue May 10, 2011 4:41 pm

    go99 wrote:[img][/img]



    "Every that has transpired has done so according to my design"-HN


    "LIKE" button....and it was such a slow week....this is getting good!!! bom

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  Ibystander on Tue May 10, 2011 4:43 pm

    socmom3 wrote:
    go99 wrote:


    "Every that has transpired has done so according to my design"-HN


    "LIKE" button....and it was such a slow week....this is getting good!!! bom

    Hey, that was the guy at our meeting last night! He didn't really talk though, he just stuck out his hand and we all nodded.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  go99 on Tue May 10, 2011 4:47 pm

    No one is misleading HN. He may be misleading everyone else, but he knows exactly what he is doing and I don't expect he will let the Gall team collapse because some parents may or may not like the special one. This is not FCD people, somebody is incharge of things. Good or bad there is only one chief there. Maybe Pom Poms doesn't like some of the credit that the special one has taken for developing his teams skills? Maybe Sir Gall doesn't like the suave silvery hair and fancy jeans of the special one?

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  stumpyD on Tue May 10, 2011 5:03 pm

    cleatsup wrote:I am not saying ML would take Gall's team, but potentially some of Gall's players might be interested in switching to ML's team, therefore weakening JG's team.
    Again, ML did not leave the 00s hanging.
    When he signed the deal with Andromeda, he was under the assumption that the 00s would go with him.
    He was misled by PP.


    If he moved based on PP getting the team to move with him that his fault. Why would ML not get the commitment from the parents themselves, if he did then he was misled by the parents not PP. PP (or any coach) can only suggest not make people move, which brings me back to ML decide to moved. I don't think the team said hey ML lets move so you can make more money. Call it hanging or whatever he left.

    again, doubt PP is panicking, if he's not happy, bb will just play up.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  go99 on Tue May 10, 2011 5:06 pm

    stumpyD wrote:
    cleatsup wrote:I am not saying ML would take Gall's team, but potentially some of Gall's players might be interested in switching to ML's team, therefore weakening JG's team.
    Again, ML did not leave the 00s hanging.
    When he signed the deal with Andromeda, he was under the assumption that the 00s would go with him.
    He was misled by PP.


    If he moved based on PP getting the team to move with him that his fault. Why would ML not get the commitment from the parents themselves, if he did then he was misled by the parents not PP. PP (or any coach) can only suggest not make people move, which brings me back to ML decide to moved. I don't think the team said hey ML lets move so you can make more money. Call it hanging or whatever he left.

    again, doubt PP is panicking, if he's not happy, bb will just play up.

    Same coaches and slow your roll there a bit

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  futbolnutt on Tue May 10, 2011 5:17 pm

    Don't think ML left just to find greener pastures. There's more to the story than that. ML coming back to the Texans is good for the Texans and the BBs that train under him.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  stumpyD on Tue May 10, 2011 5:38 pm

    futbolnutt wrote:Don't think ML left just to find greener pastures. There's more to the story than that. ML coming back to the Texans is good for the Texans and the BBs that train under him.


    Not disputing ML's reputation has a skills coach, my bb is on the 99 team that he trained for sometime before he left. He would have been our coach. I am pretty familiar with ML and the circumstances around his departure.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  stumpyD on Tue May 10, 2011 6:24 pm

    go99 wrote:
    stumpyD wrote:
    cleatsup wrote:I am not saying ML would take Gall's team, but potentially some of Gall's players might be interested in switching to ML's team, therefore weakening JG's team.
    Again, ML did not leave the 00s hanging.
    When he signed the deal with Andromeda, he was under the assumption that the 00s would go with him.
    He was misled by PP.


    If he moved based on PP getting the team to move with him that his fault. Why would ML not get the commitment from the parents themselves, if he did then he was misled by the parents not PP. PP (or any coach) can only suggest not make people move, which brings me back to ML decide to moved. I don't think the team said hey ML lets move so you can make more money. Call it hanging or whatever he left.

    again, doubt PP is panicking, if he's not happy, bb will just play up.

    Same coaches and slow your roll there a bit


    Can you elaborate? same coaches? slow my roll?

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  soccerdoc on Tue May 10, 2011 8:43 pm

    I don't know why this board likes to pit people against each other. Everyone seems to forget that we are talking about youth soccer. Certain people want to spit venom every chance they get.

    I have spent time at the Texans and was a part of the ML breakup. I was told we would go where ever Marcio went. When the time came we went with ML because he was the reason we went to the Texans in the first place. The majority of the people stayed behind. Everyone has their own theories of why the plan changed suddenly. Some peoples feeling where hurt but most people have seemed to gotten over it.

    ML has done a great job of developing my BB over the last year. I personally have been very pleased and could not imagine anyone doing better. Andromeda's situation has been rough on everyone involved most importantly the 500+ kids. The coaches have found themselves in a tough position and are looking at there opportunities. I personally was excited to hear that Texans was a possibility. My bb has alot of friends there and I know that there are a few bb's on our team that may be interested in the new school.

    I don't have any anamosity twards any Texan. I do have issue with what has transpired today. This wild fire on this post has people pointing fingers and making hurtful accusations. Like most everything on this board half truths and opinions based on more fiction than fact. It is pathetic.

    I spent 10 years down at the capital in Austin dealing with politics, little did I know it was just a warm up for Club Soccer.




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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  go99 on Tue May 10, 2011 10:24 pm

    stumpyD wrote:
    go99 wrote:
    stumpyD wrote:
    cleatsup wrote:I am not saying ML would take Gall's team, but potentially some of Gall's players might be interested in switching to ML's team, therefore weakening JG's team.
    Again, ML did not leave the 00s hanging.
    When he signed the deal with Andromeda, he was under the assumption that the 00s would go with him.
    He was misled by PP.


    If he moved based on PP getting the team to move with him that his fault. Why would ML not get the commitment from the parents themselves, if he did then he was misled by the parents not PP. PP (or any coach) can only suggest not make people move, which brings me back to ML decide to moved. I don't think the team said hey ML lets move so you can make more money. Call it hanging or whatever he left.

    again, doubt PP is panicking, if he's not happy, bb will just play up.

    Same coaches and slow your roll there a bit


    Can you elaborate? same coaches? slow my roll?

    the 00 have ML and Gall. The 99 also have ML and Gall. Slow you your roll on him playing up into the 99 team,

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    Post  drsoccer on Wed May 11, 2011 7:38 am

    so will the players get to pick which coach they want? That would be interesting to see if the parents were happy with the development of the team under Gall amd stay with him, or if they preferred their pre-select coach. Based on some of the info here one can spectulate that PP or G did some character assasination after ML left that might be leaving them a little quesey right now. But PP (whoever that is) could just leave his kid with Gall. At least we have something to talk about besides the demise of andro.

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    Post  stumpyD on Wed May 11, 2011 9:12 am

    go99 wrote:
    stumpyD wrote:
    go99 wrote:
    stumpyD wrote:
    cleatsup wrote:I am not saying ML would take Gall's team, but potentially some of Gall's players might be interested in switching to ML's team, therefore weakening JG's team.
    Again, ML did not leave the 00s hanging.
    When he signed the deal with Andromeda, he was under the assumption that the 00s would go with him.
    He was misled by PP.


    If he moved based on PP getting the team to move with him that his fault. Why would ML not get the commitment from the parents themselves, if he did then he was misled by the parents not PP. PP (or any coach) can only suggest not make people move, which brings me back to ML decide to moved. I don't think the team said hey ML lets move so you can make more money. Call it hanging or whatever he left.

    again, doubt PP is panicking, if he's not happy, bb will just play up.

    Same coaches and slow your roll there a bit


    Can you elaborate? same coaches? slow my roll?

    the 00 have ML and Gall. The 99 also have ML and Gall. Slow you your roll on him playing up into the 99 team,


    no not the same coaches. Gall will no longer have the 99's. Why would I "slow my roll" on him playing up?

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  Friscosoccer on Wed May 11, 2011 9:38 am

    I agree with GO on this one. PP's 00 great player just not sure he can very easily just play up with 99's.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  chriswhit on Wed May 11, 2011 9:53 am

    This particular subject has taken a few different bunny trails…

    Pretty sure what went down last year, still hasn't been accurately portrayed...but who cares? It was last year. If ML is coming back to the Texans, then clearly he is past it in one way or another...Others should get past it too.

    Hassan is coaching the 99 pre-academy (I heard there is an issue in that Gall is a HS and Club coach, and several of the players on those teams would also be in his HS system...and I think that is a no-no.)

    SoccerTime…

    Sigh...

    If your BB is really good...then you have all the choices in the world to you. You can decide which coach/team/club you want your kid to play for, based on whatever criteria you deem worthy of a decision.

    That said...a few suggestions, since you did post out to the masses...
    1. You truly want answers to your questions? Suggest you go to PP and Hassan directly. Sounds like you missed your opportunity during Monday evening's meeting about next year. But hey...pick up the phone...I know one of their numbers is readily available. Otherwise, this is all BULSH (for all you Ticket fans out there).
    2. Whatever beef you have with PP...you should re-focus your efforts, as he is not part of your problems. If you really think he is, then you have even bigger problems, which makes my next suggestion moot.
    3. Eliminate the drama....Focus on your BB, instead of trying to influence others. You are a parent of a youth soccer player, which is simply one of many things your BB needs your support on. And...it's not what YOU want, it's what your kid wants that is important. BE A PARENT...oh...and try smiling a couple of times a day...it's good for your soul.

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    Re: Hassan - Puppet Master to Puppet

    Post  stumpyD on Wed May 11, 2011 10:10 am

    Friscosoccer wrote:I agree with GO on this one. PP's 00 great player just not sure he can very easily just play up with 99's.

    He played with us for years, practices with us some and has no problem competing in practice/scrimmages, and it has been talked about him moving to our team very recently. He would have no problem playing and competing with the 99's. But at the end if the day it doesn't matter what we think, if he wants to play up, the coach/club will make that decision.

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    Post  go99 on Wed May 11, 2011 10:11 am

    All great advice chris but non of that does any good for the rest of us. This is just starting to make the boards interesting. So I know HN will take the pre academy and destroy all before him but who will take the 99 cl team if not sir Gall.
    Here is how I see it. Sir Gall was the new sheriff in town and now the old sheriff is back and wants his badge back. Now HN and the special one are new BFF's because he wants to know where the special one gets those really cool jeans and who styles his hair. Extra cheesy is the old BFF from grade school who thinks what happened to us? all while connell sits and thinks "why won't you love me?" Several parents chose sides during the first breakup and now that the are back to being BFFs are feeling conflicted. Hmm Sir Gall but he did abandon me for the royal wedding? The special one left me and is sometime mean to me but he does have fabulous hair? Not to worry though HN has a plan that will include lot's of winning. Twisted Evil

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