ntxsoccerchat wrote:Please correct me if any of this is wrong.

DA is at 16 and 18. Ran by USSF.

Pre-Academy is now at 13, 14 and 15. Ran by US Club Soccer.

Do Pre-Academy teams play in separate Pre-Academy League? (As in no longer in CL)Yes

If so, has CL decided what to do with slots of teams that move to Pre-Academy? And if they haven't what are they waiting for? Next board meeting

What will happen to pre Pre-Academy teams? (ie 11 and 12 top teams from Pre-Academy clubs)? They play 2 years in CL and then bolt? Will CL let those Pre-Academy clubs keep byes in their league going into 13 even though their league is no longer "competitive" enough for those clubs top players/teams? Although, the merits of this new league can be endlessly debated, the board will make a decision that it deems is in the best interest of the CL's longevity and competitiveness. There is no punishing clubs because they take this opportunity, nor is there any favoritism toward the larger clubs. Any allegations to the contrary show the naivete of how the league is run. Those on this forum who are vocal critics are certainly invited to volunteer their time versus complaining without having all of the knowledge needed to make an informed decision.

I'm sure I have other questions but the last sentence took a bit out of me.

happyfeet wrote:

ntxsoccerchat wrote:If so, has CL decided what to do with slots of teams that move to Pre-Academy? And if they haven't what are they waiting for? Next board meeting

Although, the merits of this new league can be endlessly debated, the board will make a decision that it deems is in the best interest of the CL's longevity and competitiveness. There is no punishing clubs because they take this opportunity, nor is there any favoritism toward the larger clubs. Any allegations to the contrary show the naivete of how the league is run. Those on this forum who are vocal critics are certainly invited to volunteer their time versus complaining without having all of the knowledge needed to make an informed decision.

Marmaduke wrote:The word we received from CL was for the boys, the clubs do keep their bye if a team is playing in the Pre-Academy league. And it is also my understanding the teams can actually play both. On the girls side the girls teams do lose their bye if they go to the new ECNL league. So the two leagues are different on this issue.

happyfeet wrote:Maybe I napped during that part of the meeting.
It wouldn't surprise me if the board decided to remain consistent with how it was handled with DA.

ball-coise is mhath wrote:

happyfeet wrote:Maybe I napped during that part of the meeting.
It wouldn't surprise me if the board decided to remain consistent with how it was handled with DA.

Maybe it is just the coaches assuming that will be the case.
Has the board ever looked at what happened to the teams created by the clubs from scratch to fill the spots below the team leaving for DA and how they have fared over time?

happyfeet wrote:

Marmaduke wrote:The word we received from CL was for the boys, the clubs do keep their bye if a team is playing in the Pre-Academy league. And it is also my understanding the teams can actually play both. On the girls side the girls teams do lose their bye if they go to the new ECNL league. So the two leagues are different on this issue.

It would be very difficult (almost impossible) for a team to play both with two different definitions of age groups (school year for CL and calendar year for pre-academy).

happyfeet wrote:

ball-coise is mhath wrote:

happyfeet wrote:Maybe I napped during that part of the meeting.
It wouldn't surprise me if the board decided to remain consistent with how it was handled with DA.

Maybe it is just the coaches assuming that will be the case.
Has the board ever looked at what happened to the teams created by the clubs from scratch to fill the spots below the team leaving for DA and how they have fared over time?

No official look. I'm sure some of the commissioners have an idea in their age groups. I think it has been a mixed bag.

soccergrinder wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

Marmaduke wrote:The word we received from CL was for the boys, the clubs do keep their bye if a team is playing in the Pre-Academy league. And it is also my understanding the teams can actually play both. On the girls side the girls teams do lose their bye if they go to the new ECNL league. So the two leagues are different on this issue.

It would be very difficult (almost impossible) for a team to play both with two different definitions of age groups (school year for CL and calendar year for pre-academy).

You have been asleep. It is quite easy to figure out and the DA have been doing it since it's inception. You play in the division of your oldest player. Just like it states in the North Texas handbook. Just like the DA teams do in Disney and Dallas Cup.

soccergrinder wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

Marmaduke wrote:The word we received from CL was for the boys, the clubs do keep their bye if a team is playing in the Pre-Academy league. And it is also my understanding the teams can actually play both. On the girls side the girls teams do lose their bye if they go to the new ECNL league. So the two leagues are different on this issue.

It would be very difficult (almost impossible) for a team to play both with two different definitions of age groups (school year for CL and calendar year for pre-academy).

You have been asleep. It is quite easy to figure out and the DA have been doing it since it's inception. You play in the division of your oldest player. Just like it states in the North Texas handbook. Just like the DA teams do in Disney and Dallas Cup.

happyfeet wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

Marmaduke wrote:The word we received from CL was for the boys, the clubs do keep their bye if a team is playing in the Pre-Academy league. And it is also my understanding the teams can actually play both. On the girls side the girls teams do lose their bye if they go to the new ECNL league. So the two leagues are different on this issue.

It would be very difficult (almost impossible) for a team to play both with two different definitions of age groups (school year for CL and calendar year for pre-academy).

You have been asleep. It is quite easy to figure out and the DA have been doing it since it's inception. You play in the division of your oldest player. Just like it states in the North Texas handbook. Just like the DA teams do in Disney and Dallas Cup.

No DA teams play in the CL. If I didn't understand the question, my apologies.

socmom97 wrote:Board voted at the last meeting to keep things as is. The byes stay with the club unless 75% of the team goes somewhere else. I am not aware of any discussion for next months board meeting regarding pre-academy byes.

rqps wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

soccergrinder wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

Marmaduke wrote:The word we received from CL was for the boys, the clubs do keep their bye if a team is playing in the Pre-Academy league. And it is also my understanding the teams can actually play both. On the girls side the girls teams do lose their bye if they go to the new ECNL league. So the two leagues are different on this issue.

It would be very difficult (almost impossible) for a team to play both with two different definitions of age groups (school year for CL and calendar year for pre-academy).

You have been asleep. It is quite easy to figure out and the DA have been doing it since it's inception. You play in the division of your oldest player. Just like it states in the North Texas handbook. Just like the DA teams do in Disney and Dallas Cup.

No DA teams play in the CL. If I didn't understand the question, my apologies.

I am sure teams will not play in both but what about individual players? Will they be allowed to play with Pre-Academy and drop down to Classic and play with their clubs D1 team as well?

ball-coise is mhath wrote:

socmom97 wrote:Board voted at the last meeting to keep things as is. The byes stay with the club unless 75% of the team goes somewhere else. I am not aware of any discussion for next months board meeting regarding pre-academy byes.

Teams leaving the league to go to Pre-Academy are teams with 75% and more going somewhere else--they can't take a CL bye to some different league.

When DA came around, the board decided that for a team leaving the league to play in another league, the bye would stay with the club as long as it filled the roster of that leaving team's bye with N+1 players from within the club (I think as of April roster freeze date).

If the board makes no change, then the byes for teams leaving the league for pre-academy are lost, and the rules for shifting up teams based on league play (and allowing more challenge teams in) apply.

It would seem appropriate for the board to make some announcement of how byes for teams leaving for pre-academy will be treated before much of June open season is gone.


What is an N+1 player.

wareagle wrote:What is an N+1 player?

wareagle wrote:What is an N+1 player?

finish1 wrote:

wareagle wrote:What is an N+1 player?

Your best friend when moving your team...

ball-coise is mhath wrote:

wareagle wrote:What is an N+1 player?

Roster Size at freeze date/2=N

eagle wrote:

ball-coise is mhath wrote:

wareagle wrote:What is an N+1 player?

Roster Size at freeze date/2=N

Rounded up. For example N for a roster of 17 would be 10.

eagle wrote:

ball-coise is mhath wrote:

wareagle wrote:What is an N+1 player?

Roster Size at freeze date/2=N

Rounded up. For example N for a roster of 17 would be 10.

wareagle wrote:Just trying to clarify but it was stated that the players must be on the "Clubs" roster. Do they have to be rostered to a particular team or just on a roster within the club?

wareagle wrote:Just trying to clarify but it was stated that the players must be on the "Clubs" roster. Do they have to be rostered to a particular team or just on a roster within the club?