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    A "New" Rumor - Classic League

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    Rock

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    Join date: 2010-06-27

    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  Rock on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:29 pm

    Rightback wrote:1. Hispanic is fine
    2. FCD appears biased (in the real world we call this racism) in favor of "kids that can play" always being Hispanic
    3. The game that "daddy's money" pays for was invented in England and last time I checked a fair number of non-Hispanic players are considered to be capable of playing.

    So sensitive these FCD people.


    Just to be clear, I have no affiliation with FCD. My BB doesn't play for them and only aspires to play DA.

    Re #2, you should actually check the FCD DA rosters and you may find out you are wrong. As I previously noted the rosters have more caucasians than hispanics. It seems to me FCD takes the best players

    Re#3 see #2

    futbolnutt

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  futbolnutt on Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:57 pm

    finish1 wrote:
    my2cents wrote:
    finish1 wrote:Go, you're right. Competitive soccer is a privileged sport.


    Many bored members have pointed out, and I completely agree, our youth play too many meaningless games at too young an age. In general, our tactics are too simple and our touches are too sloppy. Small sided 3v3 and 4v4 games should be all we play around here until U10. We need to focus on skills, touch and simple triangles and diamonds. At U11, we should open up the field and learn broader tactics.



    Completety correct. cheers Unfortunately unless you can find a way for more money to be made from it than the current system it wont happen.




    If the "Rumor" is true, maybe we'll see a shift in soccer culture in NTX. If FCD takes control and implements a closed loop developmental system, "mommy and daddy's money" may no longer be in control.


    Am I misinterpreting that you are of the opinion if/WHEN FC Dallas is in complete control of North Texas soccer, North Texas soccer will be better off than under current system?

    Soccerinsanity

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  Soccerinsanity on Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:06 pm

    I'm busy ROFL at the post that says if FCD does a closed-loop development system, it will be more equitable because the players won't need to pay. The Hunts didn't earn their millions by giving it away, someone is going to help pay for those scholarships...just like parents do now.

    finish1

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  finish1 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:15 pm

    The club's focus would be on developing/promoting/selling players. Happens this way all over the world, just not here, yet...

    omega striker

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  omega striker on Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:24 pm

    wow! OS was here! Laughing

    go99

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  go99 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:15 pm

    Soccerinsanity wrote:I'm busy ROFL at the post that says if FCD does a closed-loop development system, it will be more equitable because the players won't need to pay. The Hunts didn't earn their millions by giving it away, someone is going to help pay for those scholarships...just like parents do now.


    Ummm....the hunts didn't make their money thru soccer either. Parents don't pay for those scholorships unless they are screwed by their coach. You can see the animosity all over the place. After all of those years of being at the club, and countless dollars spent on skill training, tournament, camps. The audacity of some mexican kid who thinks he can come in out of nowhere and take a spot on the "top" team. Simple reality is that the kids on the DA team are amongst the best of their peers regardless of ethnicity.

    Soccerinsanity

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  Soccerinsanity on Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:36 pm

    I know where the Hunts got their money, and Lamar was famous for walking into a bank in overalls with a brown paper bag! FCD may fund those out of a different pot, but the deceased club definitely charged the parents, so if the paying parents divided the cost of 16 players, no matter whether it was one, two, or three scholarshiped players. I don't have any issues with scholarships if the club/coach is honest with the parents that we are funding it, for any ethnicity.

    It's those "extra" scholarships that aren't "on paper" and the extras into the coach's pocket that irritate me.

    go99

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  go99 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:17 pm

    I have heard of coaches "funding" scholorships thru the other parents but this is not FCD policy. The team has 1 scholorship to give on a full roster. Anything over that comes out of the coaches pay. Some coaches have chosen to pass that along to the parents on the team. I have heard of this but it has never happened to me. Eveyone at FCD should know what they are supposed to pay per FCD policy it seems simple to just refuse to pay more than that

    Rightback

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  Rightback on Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:45 pm

    Rock wrote:
    Rightback wrote:1. Hispanic is fine
    2. FCD appears biased (in the real world we call this racism) in favor of "kids that can play" always being Hispanic
    3. The game that "daddy's money" pays for was invented in England and last time I checked a fair number of non-Hispanic players are considered to be capable of playing.

    So sensitive these FCD people.


    Just to be clear, I have no affiliation with FCD. My BB doesn't play for them and only aspires to play DA.

    Re #2, you should actually check the FCD DA rosters and you may find out you are wrong. As I previously noted the rosters have more caucasians than hispanics. It seems to me FCD takes the best players

    This is my opinion as I clearly stated it is based on "observation". It is not based on DA though I think that is coming. I wish I believed a monopoly on local soccer would create better players, but my IQ is >50 so I don't buy it. All other sports are dominated by Americans because so many kids play. If we did things the FCD way I assume all local football players would play in their system...our system for developing athletes in all other sports is better. Way better. Kids play, a lot. Some time around college we decide which ones are clearly better. The local soccer market tries to make the call around 10. Spare me the logic that I see posted over and over. Bottom line is that kids should be able to play. They all develop differently but by late teens is clear. Coaches are not capable of making the call. If they had brain power at that level they would be making money on something other that teaching children a sport that in other American sports is done by volunteers. And well.

    Re#3 see #2

    Ed

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  Ed on Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:32 pm

    Rightback wrote:
    Rock wrote:
    Rightback wrote:1. Hispanic is fine
    2. FCD appears biased (in the real world we call this racism) in favor of "kids that can play" always being Hispanic
    3. The game that "daddy's money" pays for was invented in England and last time I checked a fair number of non-Hispanic players are considered to be capable of playing.

    So sensitive these FCD people.


    Just to be clear, I have no affiliation with FCD. My BB doesn't play for them and only aspires to play DA.

    Re #2, you should actually check the FCD DA rosters and you may find out you are wrong. As I previously noted the rosters have more caucasians than hispanics. It seems to me FCD takes the best players

    This is my opinion as I clearly stated it is based on "observation". It is not based on DA though I think that is coming. I wish I believed a monopoly on local soccer would create better players, but my IQ is >50 so I don't buy it. All other sports are dominated by Americans because so many kids play. If we did things the FCD way I assume all local football players would play in their system...our system for developing athletes in all other sports is better. Way better. Kids play, a lot. Some time around college we decide which ones are clearly better. The local soccer market tries to make the call around 10. Spare me the logic that I see posted over and over. Bottom line is that kids should be able to play. They all develop differently but by late teens is clear. Coaches are not capable of making the call. If they had brain power at that level they would be making money on something other that teaching children a sport that in other American sports is done by volunteers. And well.

    Re#3 see #2


    Rightback - from your previous posts you complain that FCD only wants hispanic players, but now you complain about FCD becoming a monopoly??? So by taking only hispanics they can monopolize the youth soccer market in DFW??? Rolling Eyes


    omega striker

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  omega striker on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:20 pm

    Soccerinsanity wrote:I know where the Hunts got their money, and Lamar was famous for walking into a bank in overalls with a brown paper bag! FCD may fund those out of a different pot, but the deceased club definitely charged the parents, so if the paying parents divided the cost of 16 players, no matter whether it was one, two, or three scholarshiped players. I don't have any issues with scholarships if the club/coach is honest with the parents that we are funding it, for any ethnicity.

    It's those "extra" scholarships that aren't "on paper" and the extras into the coach's pocket that irritate me.
    I concur! Cool

    mcleanpe

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    Join date: 2009-06-25

    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  mcleanpe on Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:35 pm

    eredivisie wrote:I like the idea of 1 team per club in each division. Weakens the big clubs hold over Classic League while increasing options (cost competition). It would also force clubs to better promote talent within the club or lose the player.

    Besides the first year scramble of teams going independent to keep their Bye, any downsides?


    Actually, the only thing this does is prevent massive player movement and whole teams up and leaving a club to go to another club just to fill a bye. Helps players stay on competitive clubs and teams without having to drive 1.5 hrs both ways to practice at 3.50/gal gas.

    wait a minute. thats actually not a bad thing, is it?

    Peace

    finish1

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  finish1 on Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:58 am

    FlatBack4 wrote:A year ago, I heard a rumor (see http://www.txsoccer.info/t794-kevin-smudger-smith).

    Now, I just heard another rumor, but this one is about Classic League, and you just are not going to believe it.

    Prepare yourself.... Life as you know it, well... NTX soccer life as you know it, may be about to change.



    FB4, what's the update?

    FlatBack4

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    Re: A "New" Rumor - Classic League

    Post  FlatBack4 on Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:05 pm

    finish1 wrote:
    FlatBack4 wrote:A year ago, I heard a rumor (see http://www.txsoccer.info/t794-kevin-smudger-smith).

    Now, I just heard another rumor, but this one is about Classic League, and you just are not going to believe it.

    Prepare yourself.... Life as you know it, well... NTX soccer life as you know it, may be about to change.



    FB4, what's the update?


    From what I understand, the, umm... decision making committee (cough... cough...) is in a holding pattern, so to speak. Cooler heads seem to have prevailed for now. They may wait a year before pulling the trigger. If they'd just wait two, or so, more years, my youngest kid will be outta here, and will be unaffected.

    I just read the entire thread. Several good points, but none of them stack up to what's about to happen. Although, I suppose it could be argued that some of the comments were kinda, sorta on the right track.

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