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    Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

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    ball-coise is mhath

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    Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  ball-coise is mhath on Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:20 pm

    WOndering what kind of coaching style he has

    97MAN

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  97MAN on Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:30 pm

    Not a good coach!!!

    rdg

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  rdg on Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:49 pm

    You might have to dig a little, but there is a whole thread on here somewhere of the negative experiences a few people had.
    Also not able to keep a team in D3 says something.

    plantit

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  plantit on Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:53 pm



    $%&#@**#@ Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    afrankw

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  afrankw on Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:55 pm

    He did move his 99 Boys Central team from DII to DI, coming in second place. Not sure of his impact, however they moved from DIII the prior year.

    ball-coise is mhath

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  ball-coise is mhath on Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:04 pm

    I tried searching the forum and came up with nothing.

    By that logic, having a team finish 2d in DII only 1 point behind 1st and with similar goal diff and another doing OK in DII would say something too, the opposite of what I expect you were trying to convey, RDG. I don't think how teams fare says all that much about coaching style or ability most of the time (might say more about recruiting ability or the type of players he is trying to develop).

    I also tend to ignore comments like "not a good coach!" with nothing to support the statement and no comment about the reasons or coaching style. Plantit, the same. SOunds too much like their kid got cut or rode the pine or were unhappy finishing low.

    rdg

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  rdg on Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:45 pm

    ball-coise is mhath wrote:I tried searching the forum and came up with nothing.

    By that logic, having a team finish 2d in DII only 1 point behind 1st and with similar goal diff and another doing OK in DII would say something too, the opposite of what I expect you were trying to convey, RDG. I don't think how teams fare says all that much about coaching style or ability most of the time (might say more about recruiting ability or the type of players he is trying to develop).

    I also tend to ignore comments like "not a good coach!" with nothing to support the statement and no comment about the reasons or coaching style. Plantit, the same. SOunds too much like their kid got cut or rode the pine or were unhappy finishing low.


    I would consider everyone's input (pos. and neg.) then watch some training sessions to form your own opinions.

    I do not personally know Plantit, but based on forum talk, I believe that he has extensive FCD experience and his opinion prob. has some merit.

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  Cyclone on Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:47 pm

    ball-coise is mhath wrote:WOndering what kind of coaching style he has


    I don't know him at all, but I recall this thread

    FCD coach Arias

    omega striker

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  omega striker on Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:55 pm

    first that 99 squad was never in D3 but just stayed in D2 and yes they moved into D1 but this was a team "handed" to him and then a parent with deep pockets did some recruiting but not too impressed by his coaching and have never heard anything positive about him but he has to be doing something right to still be on the FCD payroll? Suspect

    The German

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  The German on Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:59 pm

    Heard a rumor that he combined practices of his 97 teams (3) all the time.

    ball-coise is mhath

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  ball-coise is mhath on Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:28 pm

    We'll on a site like this I expect to hear more negative comments--it's just the nature of the beast. I'd rather Plantit and 97Man give some substance as to why they react the way they do, but if they don't feel like it, that's fine.

    I've gone through NTX soccer with older kids and know how to do this, but it is hard to get a good read on a coach mid June. Particularly here in 98 land, as it now seems to appear Gabby has enough to meet N+1, so they just handed Arias the FCD D1 bye. With kids flying around for pre-academy, Gabby, Renfro, and now Arias, it will be even harder to get a read.

    Does he coach kick and run with a diamond defense, or possession with a flatback and aggressive offsides trap? Is the captain the goalie to avoid conflict, the rich dad's kid, or the kid with good leadership skills? Is he a yeller? Does he make reasoned game substitutions? Does he demand attention from the boys and run a focused and productive practice, or is there a lot of wasted time?

    Combined practices can be bad, they can be good. Depends on where your kid falls on the talent spectrum of all the kids. Can also be real helpful for coaches trying to work out specific game situation issues, but a steady diet of it wouldn't be good.


    The German

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  The German on Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:43 pm

    If the choice is one of the 3 mentioned above my choice for sure would be Gabby.

    kickit

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  kickit on Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:07 pm

    He is a terrible coach. Shows up 5 minutes before games. Will say anything during recruitment and sing a different tune after signing. It's all about the money for him.

    ball-coise is mhath

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    Post  ball-coise is mhath on Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:22 pm

    kickit wrote:He is a terrible coach. Shows up 5 minutes before games. Will say anything during recruitment and sing a different tune after signing. It's all about the money for him.

    Thanks for the input--was he late because he had three teams and was running between games? Was he always late to practice? Did he actually do any coaching, or talk to the boys after games?


    Like I said, this ain't my first rodeo--I know how to interpret what coaches say during June. Contrary to common opinion, there actually are some straight forward coaches out there. There are even some decent ones who seem to lose their sensibility during June. You can usually tell when you should ignore what a coach tells you. It also helps to understand that there are a lot of parents that lie and string on coaches as well--they start reacting to that.

    ball-coise is mhath

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  ball-coise is mhath on Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:33 pm

    Related story--a number of years ago, back when there was no D3 and the N+1 rule was in place, Hassan cut all his pine riders from a top D1 team and kept 10 or something like that plus new talent. On July 1 two of the ten didn't show up despite their promises to stay with the team, so the team didn't make N+1 and went to Plano.

    The 8 or so and the rest of the new team stuck together, so of course they crushed Plano that year, crushed D2 the next, and were back in D1.

    omega striker

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  omega striker on Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:37 pm

    ball-coise is mhath wrote:
    kickit wrote:He is a terrible coach. Shows up 5 minutes before games. Will say anything during recruitment and sing a different tune after signing. It's all about the money for him.

    Thanks for the input--was he late because he had three teams and was running between games? Was he always late to practice? Did he actually do any coaching, or talk to the boys after games?


    Like I said, this ain't my first rodeo--I know how to interpret what coaches say during June. Contrary to common opinion, there actually are some straight forward coaches out there. There are even some decent ones who seem to lose their sensibility during June. You can usually tell when you should ignore what a coach tells you. It also helps to understand that there are a lot of parents that lie and string on coaches as well--they start reacting to that.
    not trying to be a smartass but you talk about comments on this "site" but yet you started the thread and then you ask about a coach and then post you know how to deal with coaches and its not your first rodeo so it seems to me like you already know the answer? confused

    ball-coise is mhath

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  ball-coise is mhath on Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:46 pm

    omega striker wrote:
    ball-coise is mhath wrote:
    kickit wrote:He is a terrible coach. Shows up 5 minutes before games. Will say anything during recruitment and sing a different tune after signing. It's all about the money for him.
    Thanks for the input--was he late because he had three teams and was running between games? Was he always late to practice? Did he actually do any coaching, or talk to the boys after games?


    Like I said, this ain't my first rodeo--I know how to interpret what coaches say during June. Contrary to common opinion, there actually are some straight forward coaches out there. There are even some decent ones who seem to lose their sensibility during June. You can usually tell when you should ignore what a coach tells you. It also helps to understand that there are a lot of parents that lie and string on coaches as well--they start reacting to that.
    not trying to be a smartass but you talk about comments on this "site" but yet you started the thread and then you ask about a coach and then post you know how to deal with coaches and its not your first rodeo so it seems to me like you already know the answer? confused

    Not to be a smartass back, but did you not see this concerns a coach just appearing on the scene, mid June, with combined practices for a bunch of coaches? Not much opportunity to observe how he is as a coach before any of them will be asking for a firm commitment.

    omega striker

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    Post  omega striker on Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:56 pm

    ball-coise is mhath wrote:
    omega striker wrote:
    ball-coise is mhath wrote:
    kickit wrote:He is a terrible coach. Shows up 5 minutes before games. Will say anything during recruitment and sing a different tune after signing. It's all about the money for him.
    Thanks for the input--was he late because he had three teams and was running between games? Was he always late to practice? Did he actually do any coaching, or talk to the boys after games?


    Like I said, this ain't my first rodeo--I know how to interpret what coaches say during June. Contrary to common opinion, there actually are some straight forward coaches out there. There are even some decent ones who seem to lose their sensibility during June. You can usually tell when you should ignore what a coach tells you. It also helps to understand that there are a lot of parents that lie and string on coaches as well--they start reacting to that.
    not trying to be a smartass but you talk about comments on this "site" but yet you started the thread and then you ask about a coach and then post you know how to deal with coaches and its not your first rodeo so it seems to me like you already know the answer? confused

    Not to be a smartass back, but did you not see this concerns a coach just appearing on the scene, mid June, with combined practices for a bunch of coaches? Not much opportunity to observe how he is as a coach before any of them will be asking for a firm commitment.
    gotcha no problem Cool

    kickit

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  kickit on Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:25 pm

    5 players on his 97 D3 team asked for a release before the end of the season.

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    Re: Anyone have input on FCD Coach Francisco Arias?

    Post  plantit on Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:32 am

    kickit wrote:He is a terrible coach. Shows up 5 minutes before games. Will say anything during recruitment and sing a different tune after signing. It's all about the money for him.



    BALL COISE.. You ask my opinion ?? Kick it pretty much sums it up! Lets just say I left with my morals and integrity still in tact , which is more than I can say for said coach. How do I, as a parent, teach my kid to respect someone who is not worthy of respect. FCD has many fine coaches . Both my kids have landed with 2 that we really like. They possess the values and integrity that we want to instill in our kids. Straight forward no BS.. so they are out there. Agree w/ the German ,, Gabby and Ren I've heard are solid .. Good luck!


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