Thought I would start another thread. So looking at the latest information Bandits did "merge" with Texans and then gave their bye to DT White (Previous Mid-D2). The D3 Bye of DT White went to Metro I believe.

Other movement Andro White disbanded. Liverpool Liddel and Aztecas progressed into D3 on Challenge.

Andro Red to Texans, Solar changes coach's.

What else am I missing?

With all the changes I am interested in hearing how everyone is thinking D1 - D3 is shaping up. Parity of competition and who the eventual top / bottom two might be (wild speculation but that is the nature of the boards!!)

I don't believe Andro White has disbanded. Where did you receive that news?

TxHunter wrote:I don't believe Andro White has disbanded. Where did you receive that news?

Totally apologize to the board. Andro White has not disbanded. Meant to say Andro McLemore from D3.

From the looks of all the '00 mostly all teams are having trouble filling the roster up. (well except Texans) Some kids just quit playing soccer, some went back to recreational, & others just moving around to other teams. Could this be part of the economy situation? I even know of some teams that are taking some "none competitive quality" players just to fill the roster and keep the bye.

The main question is where did the Bandit kids go? A few here and there (Gall and others), but did the majority join the Dallas Texans team that got the D1 bye?

Mitlan also disbanded along with Andro-Mclemore. The woes of finishing last in D2.

Will it be Gall and 9 fairly even teams in D1?

D2 should be interesting. Chivas looked good at Memorial Day tourney. FCD Suarez was always pretty good. Combine that with the teams that finished 11-18 and I see parity. Is there a team that is a class above? Solar Red, your throne beckons.

What happens here? Does Hurst dominate? Will the gifted bye DT team show it belongs in classic.

earbucket wrote:The main question is where did the Bandit kids go? A few here and there (Gall and others), but did the majority join the Dallas Texans team that got the D1 bye?

Mitlan also disbanded along with Andro-Mclemore. The woes of finishing last in D2.

Will it be Gall and 9 fairly even teams in D1?

D2 should be interesting. Chivas looked good at Memorial Day tourney. FCD Suarez was always pretty good. Combine that with the teams that finished 11-18 and I see parity. Is there a team that is a class above? Solar Red, your throne beckons.

What happens here? Does Hurst dominate? Will the gifted bye DT team show it belongs in classic.

You have some interesting points. I am interested to see how many slots the old Bandits now occupy on the Texans White. I had heard some of the players out with many teams though if rumor holds Texans Gall and FCD East might have the majority of the ones that left the team.

I agree with D2 analysis. There is a lot of parity in the ranks. Should make for an exciting season.

D3 looks to be interesting as well (Perhaps not as much as the D2 field). FWFC and TFC White move to D3 and will be right in line with Hurst. (TFC/Hurst over two matches went 1 and 1 with each scoring a total of 2 goals) Additionally the inclusion of Liverpool Liddell and Aztecas will bring some additional competition into the league. All this said I suspect good competition for the year.

D1 looks to have the big delta. I suspect Gall stays on top but that 2 - 5 will be a dog fight. 5 - 10 will be behind but could take most any other team on the right day.

indyfc wrote:

Galagtic wrote:From the looks of all the '00 mostly all teams are having trouble filling the roster up. (well except Texans) Some kids just quit playing soccer, some went back to recreational, & others just moving around to other teams. Could this be part of the economy situation? I even know of some teams that are taking some "none competitive quality" players just to fill the roster and keep the bye.

Hey Galactic, who's coaching Toro's and are they staying as Toros or are they going with Real Madrid after all?

They are staying as Toros & the coach is someone that was hired by them.

No Additional Comments?

I think you pretty much nailed it X, plus there's lots of people scurrying for shelter right now. I'm sure in July things'll pick up in here.

Okay XXX, I'll bite.

D-1, or DT Division 1, as it were, will be very fluid,with the exception of Gall. When the dust settles you'll understand why. They will be significantly better than last year--that's right, I said it, and no, we don;t play there. There's been so much movement, predicting anything else beyond Gall dominating would be moot. Premier, TFC will claim a shot at #1, and these are good teams, but they did not improve talent wise on the scale of Gall. No one did. The rich got richer. Pun intended. This D-3 team that got the Bandits bye will struggle. Excluding Gall, the other 8 are good to very good--even a partial D3 team not ready for this group. Very talented group of teams. Will be fun to watch the battle for 2nd. Could be any of 5 different teams.

D-2, you are correct it is Solar Red's for the taking. Watch Toros-- if they can get a player or 2 and stick together. Liverpool is my sleeper here. These 3 finish at the top.

D-3 is where my bb currently resides, after our team disbanded from D-1. Don't know much about most of these teams, but I believe with the additions of Aztecas, Liverpool, FWFC, and TFC White, the talent level and quality went way up from last years "D2" division. This division is a total toss up. Depends on who picked up whom, who left, etc..., and I just don't know all that info. As many as 6 of these teams have a legitimate chance to win it. Which I think is great--keeps the kiddos on their toes. Should be interesting down to the wire.

Don't want to say we wont be challenged at D1 Texans Gallo . Picked up great talent but still don't know how the team going to work together . Tfc great team both FC Dallas teams in D1 if this teams stay together and have a good coach may work for them . Team ball possession would make a bigger difference this year . Talent over a well coached team that knows each other game . I think all D1 teams are able to take it . Heat (talent) VS Mavs (well coached team)?

Oh baloney, you don't believe that Tex. Nice of you to say it, though.

If anyone does it, it is Premier.

Tfc has a great chance if they pick up a good midfielder they have the forwards hard to stop . FC Dallas premier needs stronger D . FC Dallas East needs to finish up front , now if any of this team picked up what their lacking their might be a fight for first place . Has any of this team pick up new players not just to fill the roster but to make the team stronger . Texans has had great talent stop by but never saw again might be in one of this team . TFC and both FC Dallas coaches are great never count out the coach . Texans are only good because we have talent come to us , cant say We developed a great team . I respected the bandits as a club that talent was home grown . Im not dogging Texans coaches or club just saying is a greater satisfaction winning with a team u developed vs a team full of ODP players destine to win .

BigTex wrote:Tfc has a great chance if they pick up a good midfielder they have the forwards hard to stop . FC Dallas premier needs stronger D . FC Dallas East needs to finish up front , now if any of this team picked up what their lacking their might be a fight for first place . Has any of this team pick up new players not just to fill the roster but to make the team stronger . Texans has had great talent stop by but never saw again might be in one of this team . TFC and both FC Dallas coaches are great never count out the coach . Texans are only good because we have talent come to us , cant say We developed a great team . I respected the bandits as a club that talent was home grown . Im not dogging Texans coaches or club just saying is a greater satisfaction winning with a team u developed vs a team full of ODP players destine to win .

Okay, okay, you've beaten me down with sensible logic. Yes, JW did a good job with Bandits. I agree, Texans MO is to amass all the talent. Has worked for them well so far.That statement is something I've heard alot of people make, about DT gathering talent and not developing. That's the fun part of June, no one really knows what many teams will look like in a week or so. I do hope some teams challenge for the top spot. parity is healthy for sport.

Without ever seeing some of these teams play I would bet that the elite teams are the ones with the biggest and fastest players which translates to wins at this age. I am not trying to down grade any team however skills are not often developed when a kid can run past his competition at will. For all the kids out there that are a step slower or a few pounds lighter I say hang in there. Almost every year over the past 10 there is a team atop the U11 heap that laps the field and everyone believes they are the next national champs. And every year after that the field of teams start to reel them in; slowly yes but it happens. The end of year 60 goals for and 8 against goes to 40 to 12 then 30 to 20. The field shrinks and puberty arrives. Some of the "real" deals leave for other sports, some never develop skills but the bottom line is the gap is closed. Skills, Skills, Skills and fitness,fitness,fitness=elite soccer players.

Gall this, bandits that, and some Texans in a pear tree! None of this really matters, the bar has already been set by the Gall team, and God forbid any of those kids face any adversity by their opposition! I do believe the Gall team and other D1 teams have all gotten better, I also believe that we have a pool of talented boys competing in this age group, and the difference will probably be coaching. The advantage obviously goes to the underdogs "everyone below Gall". The same kids are here in the area and pieces will move around, the difference will be nominal with the exception of coaching and tactics. Let the games begin and let's see some good soccer.

Amidoinitrite? wrote:Gall this, bandits that, and some Texans in a pear tree! None of this really matters, the bar has already been set by the Gall team, and God forbid any of those kids face any adversity by their opposition! I do believe the Gall team and other D1 teams have all gotten better, I also believe that we have a pool of talented boys competing in this age group, and the difference will probably be coaching. The advantage obviously goes to the underdogs "everyone below Gall". The same kids are here in the area and pieces will move around, the difference will be nominal with the exception of coaching and tactics. Let the games begin and let's see some good soccer.

Interesting thoughts. How much effect does a coach have on an U12 team. Anyone willing to go out on a limb and rate the coaches?

List only--no rankings.
1. Gall
2. Wells
3. Pino
4. Leite
5. Spencer
6. Smith
7. Craft
8. Burciaga
9. Ortiz
10. Connell

DII.
1. Toros coach?
2. Ekeme
3. Uremovich
4. Adame
5. Wilco
6. Gallagher
7. Lopez
8. Parrish
9. Suarez
10. Zavala

DIII.
1. new FW coach
2. Schell
3. Dane
4. Yoder
5. Garrett
6. Badii
7. Penna
8. Marshall
9. Zaldana
10. DT Red West coach

Why don't we have something like this?

www.ratemysoccercoach.com

Looks like this is primarily something in California but could be used.

I love that site from California and we could add some categories......such as EGO but we would have to increase the scoring from 1-5 to 1-100

NTskeptic wrote:I love that site from California and we could add some categories......such as EGO but we would have to increase the scoring from 1-5 to 1-100

Spent a bit of time on the site looking etc. If you put North Texas in the box and hit search you get a few coaches / clubs put in. Would be interesting if a strong contingent put their ratings in. Wouldn't be the end all in a coach selection process but perhaps a good additional reference point.

earbucket wrote:

Amidoinitrite? wrote:Gall this, bandits that, and some Texans in a pear tree! None of this really matters, the bar has already been set by the Gall team, and God forbid any of those kids face any adversity by their opposition! I do believe the Gall team and other D1 teams have all gotten better, I also believe that we have a pool of talented boys competing in this age group, and the difference will probably be coaching. The advantage obviously goes to the underdogs "everyone below Gall". The same kids are here in the area and pieces will move around, the difference will be nominal with the exception of coaching and tactics. Let the games begin and let's see some good soccer.

Interesting thoughts. How much effect does a coach have on an U12 team. Anyone willing to go out on a limb and rate the coaches?

List only--no rankings.
1. Gall
2. Wells
3. Pino
4. Leite
5. Spencer
6. Smith
7. Craft
8. Burciaga
9. Ortiz
10. Connell

DII.
1. Toros coach?
2. Ekeme
3. Uremovich
4. Adame
5. Wilco
6. Gallagher
7. Lopez
8. Parrish
9. Suarez
10. Zavala

DIII.
1. new FW coach
2. Schell
3. Dane
4. Yoder
5. Garrett
6. Badii
7. Penna
8. Marshall
9. Zaldana
10. DT Red West coach

Seems to me this thread is suggesting a massive overrating of the value of individual coaches at the top end and probably an underestimation of the value of individual coaching at the lower end.

Individual reputation and club impact aside, I'd wager that the best coaches, or possibly more aptly described as the most well rounded coaches, are working successfully with teams that don't have the top talent or even a uniform level of talent on their rosters. They have more work to do and less to work with.

Let's get the rating site up and see what happens.

A parent from Toros told me yesterday at a family gathering that they are trying to convince Coach Calvillo to come back to the team. So hope that does happen for the kids.

Bringing this mid-summer "state of the union" thread to the top, to see what has transpired in the fall.

D1: Gall/Maric on top. Premier securely in 2nd. No TFC or East threatening and East is way back.

D2: Odyssey and Chivas. Andro White not far behind. Toros way behind.

D3: Hurst first and then Aztecas.

what happen to FC Dallas east and TFC this year