If you kid play for a team that plays Plano is that usually cheaper than dishing out 2K+ for team that plays in Classic?

I'm not sure the price difference is Plano vs Classic vs Arlington so much as individual team comparisons and big team vs small team.

Depends on the team, not where they play in my experience.

I cannot speak for all clubs, but I have yet to come across a club that charges less for playing in Plano vs. Classic. Typically if Club "A" has teams in both leagues, the dues are the same regardless.

I did a little research in the cost of playing in each league. This is league play only, not team registration for North Texas.

This is for U13-U14 age groups for both the Fall and Spring seasons. The number of games an ref fees do very some but these are pretty good averages.

Plano $2400
Arlington $2500
Classic $2800

Thanks guys!

Bagman00 wrote:I did a little research in the cost of playing in each league. This is league play only, not team registration for North Texas.

This is for U13-U14 age groups for both the Fall and Spring seasons. The number of games an ref fees do very some but these are pretty good averages.

Plano $2400
Arlington $2500
Classic $2800

$400/16= How much per year?, but are the BIG club fees for teams in APL or PPL less than those teams that are in Classic? Do the club fees for teams in APL or PPL fund scholarships in Classic/DI while the non CL teams "develop?".

Soccerinsanity wrote:My understanding is that most clubs charge the same for teams regardless of what league they play in, although some teams may add tournament fees directly to costs and others collect it separately.

The scholarship question is a really great question...good luck getting honest answers from clubs about it.

Honesty from BIG clubs? Really?

The big clubs all have the same base fees (coaching fees, club fees) as far as I know. I would guess there may be some minor variation in the total due based on the difference between CL fees vs PL fees (if there are any).

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that each team on FCD is given one scholarship that's covered by the club. Other scholarshipped players, of course, are covered by sponsorships or by the other parents. I'd guess that all of the big 4 have a similar policy.

Oops, double post.

Triple post, sorry for the clutter!

OnTheSurface wrote:The big clubs all have the same base fees (coaching fees, club fees) as far as I know. I would guess there may be some minor variation in the total due based on the difference between CL fees vs PL fees (if there are any).

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that each team on FCD is given one scholarship that's covered by the club. Other scholarship players, of course, are covered by sponsorships or by the other parents. I'd guess that ass many of the big 4 have a similar policy.

Considering many of these clubs carry non-for profit/501 c(3)status, open books should be the norm to see what each team is comprised of...Just Sayin...

Is there a specific link or website where you can see these 'open' books? Would love to see those.

soccermom97b wrote:This will be my BB's first year in Classc league and our dues have never differed from those who were already in Classic league, although the cost difference between PPL and Classic is quite significant. I went toe to toe with the DOC of our former club over this with a spreadsheet showing him the difference between the cost of the 2 and got absolutely no where with it except mad. Thanks to a merger and moving 100% of the team to a new club, we've been part of 4 clubs total since U11 (on the same team going into 4th year now) and all 4 clubs have been set up that way...everyone pays the same amount. Up until this year, our club charged U16-U19 teams higher fees to cover the additional $1000 they receive back for tournament fees, but this year they just raised everyone's fees to the same amount across the board.

It may happen somewhere, but I have never heard of any of the big clubs basing club dues on which league the team is playing. I know of one coach who has a couple of teams in classic league and a couple in Plano. I guess having the Plano teams may be a good thing for some coaches as they probably make more money from those teams since league fees are significantly less

P1er wrote:Is there a specific link or website where you can see these 'open' books? Would love to see those.

Books are not on line, but you can check to see who has 501 c(3) status.

http://www2.guidestar.org/

Ibra wrote:Considering many of these clubs carry non-for profit/501 c(3)status, open books should be the norm to see what each team is comprised of...Just Sayin...

Most clubs are non profit, and you can see their paperwork and filings at the level of the club. Someone posted a link on this board in the not-too-distant past, or you should be able to google it easily. The only one I looked at closely was the Texans, and the paperwork enumerates in great detail all of the monies received and paid. It’s an interesting read. The lion’s share of the dues (7 figures) is paid to a separate (and presumably for-profit) entity for “coaching services”. Of course, there is no insight available into that entity.

There is a space on the Team Fact Sheet for the number of scholarshipped players. Of the 5 fact sheets I’ve seen to date, 1 of them had an actual number filled in. The rest had blank or “TBD”.

Clubs and Teams don’t like to talk about this, because it generates drama. Why does Billy get to play for free when his parents are driving a Mercedes? Why does Jack play for free while I am busting my buns doing fundraisers? And of course, in most cases, the parents pay for the scholarshipped players in the form of higher dues.

As with most things in North Texas Soccer, the expectation is that you will do as you are told without question.