i would say that with all the shuffling that just went on, it is to early to tell what team is where.... I know several d1 and d2 teams were still looking for players after July 1st...


Maybe after the fall we'll have a better idea...

agree with trmntr1 and will add that I believe there will be some surprises. Some previously strong teams will not do as well and some unknowns will have surprising success. I'll go out on a limb and say look for TFCBlue to do very well in D3.

We won't have to wait long to see...the boys are now part of the older group who follow the amended schedule allowing for HS play and first game of the season will be 8/20. That's not far away at all...

Wow! Aug.20, that isn't far away at all.... Kind of a bitter sweet feeling... Can't wait to see them play, but also realizing that our soccer season/journey with our son is halfway over. My wifey and I will definitely cherish these next few years...

To all the parents out there that support your kids soccer dreams/needs/ and wishes.... my hats off to you all... Keep up the good work...

EastTexasSoccer wrote:My teams to look out for (not in any particualar order):

TFC Blue (team is getting better every season)
Millenium (very strong team)
Irving Elite (very very strong team; glad to hear they did not merge with FCD)
FC Galaxy (a team to watch for in tournaments; very talented/fast team)
Nationals FC (well coached team)
West Texas United (now FC Dallas-West Texas)
Amarillo Lightning
Monterrey

I am not on here to bash other teams, so therefore I will not list the overrated teams. Good luck to them also.

Kind of interesting that most of the eight teams you selected are teams that have been promoted to Classic League in the last three years from PPL or APL. Only Nationals FC on that list is still in Plano, although they were in the Challenge Tourney in May. Then there is FC Galaxy, a team that nobody has heard of (yet). Could it be that is the team you are affiliated with?

hoff1032 wrote:

EastTexasSoccer wrote:My teams to look out for (not in any particualar order):

TFC Blue (team is getting better every season)
Millenium (very strong team)
Irving Elite (very very strong team; glad to hear they did not merge with FCD)
FC Galaxy (a team to watch for in tournaments; very talented/fast team)
Nationals FC (well coached team)
West Texas United (now FC Dallas-West Texas)
Amarillo Lightning
Monterrey

I am not on here to bash other teams, so therefore I will not list the overrated teams. Good luck to them also.

Kind of interesting that most of the eight teams you selected are teams that have been promoted to Classic League in the last three years from PPL or APL. Only Nationals FC on that list is still in Plano, although they were in the Challenge Tourney in May. Then there is FC Galaxy, a team that nobody has heard of (yet). Could it be that is the team you are affiliated with?

Jeezzuz Krrrriiissssttt Hoff get over yourself....

I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

RytMid wrote:I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

That might be true, although they were one of the deepest teams out there. I know they lost a few key pieces, but they picked up some very good players.... They got a good catch on picking up a defender from FC D blue... That kid can ball....

RytMid wrote:I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

Based on the past year's records, Irving would have been a top 5 team even without the pre-academy stuff going on. As it is, they've actually maintained their strength through replacement, unlike any of the 4-5 teams who would have finished ahead of them. (still waiting for FCD to reveal their 'top' D1 team) Expect Irving Elite to finish in the top 3, in what should be a VERY competive D1.5

treefrog13 wrote:

RytMid wrote:I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

Based on the past year's records, Irving would have been a top 5 team even without the pre-academy stuff going on. As it is, they've actually maintained their strength through replacement, unlike any of the 4-5 teams who would have finished ahead of them. (still waiting for FCD to reveal their 'top' D1 team) Expect Irving Elite to finish in the top 3, in what should be a VERY competive D1.5

I also heard Irving Elite lost a few top players and will not be as good as previous years. I just don't see 1 team being this dominate in all 3 divisions, It would be nice to see an independent team win it all but don't see it happening.

I'm sure Solar Red, FC Dallas,and Texans will put together teams that they will have trouble beating.

treefrog13 wrote:

RytMid wrote:I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

Based on the past year's records, Irving would have been a top 5 team even without the pre-academy stuff going on. As it is, they've actually maintained their strength through replacement, unlike any of the 4-5 teams who would have finished ahead of them. (still waiting for FCD to reveal their 'top' D1 team) Expect Irving Elite to finish in the top 3, in what should be a VERY competive D1.5

well by the looks of it FCDB doesnt have a full team, jesse really angered some parents and assumed he was going to be able to replace anybody on the team if they tried out for another team so now he will have to use some of the preacademy players to help his team in the classic league so he can have a roster to play and be competitive. shame on you jesse. i can assure you this he is living the dream right now cause he has most of molinas boys in the disney cup and he's always wanted to have the top team. so enjoy now jesse but will see you in classic when we whoop that a**

punisher wrote:

treefrog13 wrote:

RytMid wrote:I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

Based on the past year's records, Irving would have been a top 5 team even without the pre-academy stuff going on. As it is, they've actually maintained their strength through replacement, unlike any of the 4-5 teams who would have finished ahead of them. (still waiting for FCD to reveal their 'top' D1 team) Expect Irving Elite to finish in the top 3, in what should be a VERY competive D1.5

well by the looks of it FCDB doesnt have a full team, jesse really angered some parents and assumed he was going to be able to replace anybody on the team if they tried out for another team so now he will have to use some of the preacademy players to help his team in the classic league so he can have a roster to play and be competitive. shame on you jesse. i can assure you this he is living the dream right now cause he has most of molinas boys in the disney cup and he's always wanted to have the top team. so enjoy now jesse but will see you in classic when we whoop that a**

Think that was the plan all along there big guy. Create space for seamless movement of players . Seems pretty smart , use every advantage the system has allowed to gain as many players experience at different levels .. Kinda sounds personal w/ you and jess.

plantit wrote:

punisher wrote:

treefrog13 wrote:

RytMid wrote:I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

Based on the past year's records, Irving would have been a top 5 team even without the pre-academy stuff going on. As it is, they've actually maintained their strength through replacement, unlike any of the 4-5 teams who would have finished ahead of them. (still waiting for FCD to reveal their 'top' D1 team) Expect Irving Elite to finish in the top 3, in what should be a VERY competive D1.5

well by the looks of it FCDB doesnt have a full team, jesse really angered some parents and assumed he was going to be able to replace anybody on the team if they tried out for another team so now he will have to use some of the preacademy players to help his team in the classic league so he can have a roster to play and be competitive. shame on you jesse. i can assure you this he is living the dream right now cause he has most of molinas boys in the disney cup and he's always wanted to have the top team. so enjoy now jesse but will see you in classic when we whoop that a**

Think that was the plan all along there big guy. Create space for seamless movement of players . Seems pretty smart , use every advantage the system has allowed to gain as many players experience at different levels .. Kinda sounds personal w/ you and jess.

No way that was planned, Basically what you are saying is Jesse intentionally planned on pissing off some parents to get rid of players, then taking less paying players on his roster just to be able to have academy players move seamlessly in and out of his line-up.... No way jose..... These clubs are in the soccer business to make money, having an elite group of players that they can seamlessly move between teams does not make you money.... Unless those parents are paying double the fees... Highly unlikely...

I have spoken to people who's bb's were on his team, and I was told a different story.... It was pure arrogance on coach's part thinking that no one would go against his demands... I can see that about him.... He's fallen into the whole "I am the greatest coach out here" syndrome.... It's o.k., maybe after eating humble pie this year he will come back down to earth with the rest of us....

Also looks as though last season's Andro Red and Andro White have partially combined (or did too many go to FCD???) to form one team and given up a bye which will be filled with FWFC. Both Andro teams finished in top 5 last year so could be really strong.

trmntr1 wrote:

plantit wrote:

punisher wrote:

treefrog13 wrote:

RytMid wrote:I'll go out on a skinnier limb and predict that this will be the first season for Irving Elite to have a balanced record.

Based on the past year's records, Irving would have been a top 5 team even without the pre-academy stuff going on. As it is, they've actually maintained their strength through replacement, unlike any of the 4-5 teams who would have finished ahead of them. (still waiting for FCD to reveal their 'top' D1 team) Expect Irving Elite to finish in the top 3, in what should be a VERY competive D1.5

well by the looks of it FCDB doesnt have a full team, jesse really angered some parents and assumed he was going to be able to replace anybody on the team if they tried out for another team so now he will have to use some of the preacademy players to help his team in the classic league so he can have a roster to play and be competitive. shame on you jesse. i can assure you this he is living the dream right now cause he has most of molinas boys in the disney cup and he's always wanted to have the top team. so enjoy now jesse but will see you in classic when we whoop that a**

Think that was the plan all along there big guy. Create space for seamless movement of players . Seems pretty smart , use every advantage the system has allowed to gain as many players experience at different levels .. Kinda sounds personal w/ you and jess.

No way that was planned, Basically what you are saying is Jesse intentionally planned on pissing off some parents to get rid of players, then taking less paying players on his roster just to be able to have academy players move seamlessly in and out of his line-up.... No way jose..... These clubs are in the soccer business to make money, having an elite group of players that they can seamlessly move between teams does not make you money.... Unless those parents are paying double the fees... Highly unlikely...

I have spoken to people who's bb's were on his team, and I was told a different story.... It was pure arrogance on coach's part thinking that no one would go against his demands... I can see that about him.... He's fallen into the whole "I am the greatest coach out here" syndrome.... It's o.k., maybe after eating humble pie this year he will come back down to earth with the rest of us....

What does it matter P/A is not free. 1 roster has 22 the other has 12 = 34 thats 17 per team . the money is there .

Yes I know P/A is not free.... You missed the point. In your logic it was Suarez's plan all along to run off players to allow for some P/A players to be rostered to his team during the season.... How does 12 paying players compare to let's say 16. That's a minimum of 9600.00 left on the table... Do you really think management said to Suarez, hey why don't you run parents off, so you can use our top P/A players during the season so you can win more games.... And don't worry about the almost ten grand we are not going to see in Revenue.... We'll just pay for fields and all other incurred expenses out of our own pocket....

Planned I think not.... Don't give him that much credit....

trmntr1 wrote: Yes I know P/A is not free.... You missed the point. In your logic it was Suarez's plan all along to run off players to allow for some P/A players to be rostered to his team during the season.... How does 12 paying players compare to let's say 16. That's a minimum of 9600.00 left on the table... Do you really think management said to Suarez, hey why don't you run parents off, so you can use our top P/A players during the season so you can win more games.... And don't worry about the almost ten grand we are not going to see in Revenue.... We'll just pay for fields and all other incurred expenses out of our own pocket....

Planned I think not.... Don't give him that much credit....

Two words that describes Suares bad side arrogance and prideful. Nice guy good with the boys but once you leave his team or you upset him he can be bad blood.

As far as Elite this team is solid and no they didnt lose any "key" players. My son didn't make the cut unfortunately but Andro will hopefully be our new home

You talking to me? wrote:

trmntr1 wrote: Yes I know P/A is not free.... You missed the point. In your logic it was Suarez's plan all along to run off players to allow for some P/A players to be rostered to his team during the season.... How does 12 paying players compare to let's say 16. That's a minimum of 9600.00 left on the table... Do you really think management said to Suarez, hey why don't you run parents off, so you can use our top P/A players during the season so you can win more games.... And don't worry about the almost ten grand we are not going to see in Revenue.... We'll just pay for fields and all other incurred expenses out of our own pocket....

Planned I think not.... Don't give him that much credit....

Two words that describes Suares bad side arrogance and prideful. Nice guy good with the boys but once you leave his team or you upset him he can be bad blood.

As far as Elite this team is solid and no they didnt lose any "key" players. My son didn't make the cut unfortunately but Andro will hopefully be our new home

Arrogant / prideful . ? If you say so . show me a coach that isn't to some degree.. I'm ok with both. What i'm not ok with is demeaning , dishonest, morally inept. Cocky? who gives a $hit . most likely told it the way it was and the parents ran out of tissues. Prideful?? who isn't . Everyone is prideful of their kids / themselves . Unless ur a junkie !!

I'll go back to simple math for the mentally challenged. 34 players paying = 2 teams worth of income 1 coach per team they split the income and share the players . math 101 here on planet earth.


Have you ever fathomed the notion, of the concept, that FCD may be telling him exactly how THEY want this to play out . Some organizations do have a hierarcy. They may have a plan that they forgot to fill you in on. Just e-mail CH and tell him to keep you in the loop next time a decision is made so he can seek ur input .


If you would like I'll buy you a new box of wheaties, cuzz, Jess obviously pissed in yours.

The Pre Academy players at FCD are not paying any club fees. Doesn't sound like the income is there afterall.

Texas101 wrote:The Pre Academy players at FCD are not paying any club fees. Doesn't sound like the income is there afterall.

Think thats the dev/academy u-16 / u-18. Those are the ones all expenses paid..

Even if the others are paid for, do you really think the hunts are not going to pay their coaches ahla Andro.

The facts are w/ FCD your just dealing with a different animal. Not a soccer club but a pro organization. Hate all you want the Dynamo are just a short 3 1/2 hour drive down 45.

Texas101 wrote:The Pre Academy players at FCD are not paying any club fees. Doesn't sound like the income is there afterall.

During tryouts there was no mention of FCD paying the Pre-academy fees, although that wouldn't have necessarily changed some folks minds about wanting to play for this club or those coaches. Just not a bright idea not to advertise this if they wanted to try and recruit some that would have come simply because it was free and would have put up with the rest.

Surprising they have these types of funds. Attendance at the FCD pro games couldn't possibly be generating much. I know other MLS pre-academy leagues are paying the kids fees but the players are responsible for all the travel and they travel quite a bit more than most clubs I know of. Wonder if FCD is covering the travel for pre-academy teams or not?

Just the club fees you are responsible for paying for your own travel.

Texas101 wrote:Just the club fees you are responsible for paying for your own travel.

As was mentioned before . Wouldn't that be a huge recruting tool to put that out there, that the club fees are covered ?I would think some people that have a hard time paying for both will be helped .So the club may have made a choice to incure the fixed costs ( the dues ). Look,, pretty much across the board the academy coaches are heads of clubs ,docs, or multi titled employees.
I think most are salaried anyway . If someone who made academy would chime in as to what the facts are and disclose, it would clear alot up.

what about TFC 97 Royal? will they make it to D1 next year? thoughts on them?

Let's talk about changes on all 97 teams. This has been a crazy year and so much movement. How many teams stayed pretty much intact and lost very few key players. I know TFC 97 Royal kept his same roster may have added a 1 or two but still has his basic core.
TFC 97 Boys has only 4 returning players.
TFC 97 White (Plano) only 3 returning players.
TFC 97 Blue has lost none of their Key players and added some good back ups.

Let's hear how the teams will stack up and what changes you know about! It will all be out next weekend any ways!

TFC Blue wins Superclubs Champions Cup this weekend in Little Rock...we're ready to play!