my2cents wrote:

Soccerinsanity wrote:Perhaps the viewer could have reported it to the Field Marshall as, at the very least, unsportsmanlike conduct from the coach/parent. The officials could have suspended the man as either coach or parent, from attending games.

Much easier said than done. That takes having an A&D hearing, which to make charges stick, requires that the accusing party come and testify. People always want "somebody" to do something but when it gets to the point when the "somebody" is them, then all of a sudden they are not quite as outraged or offended.

If my memory of last year serve me this coach had a complaint filed with the Classic League for his comments to his kids about the other team. Not sure of the outcome but it couldn't have been to much since he is still coaching.

SoccerXXX wrote:

my2cents wrote:

Soccerinsanity wrote:Perhaps the viewer could have reported it to the Field Marshall as, at the very least, unsportsmanlike conduct from the coach/parent. The officials could have suspended the man as either coach or parent, from attending games.

Much easier said than done. That takes having an A&D hearing, which to make charges stick, requires that the accusing party come and testify. People always want "somebody" to do something but when it gets to the point when the "somebody" is them, then all of a sudden they are not quite as outraged or offended.

If my memory of last year serve me this coach had a complaint filed with the Classic League for his comments to his kids about the other team. Not sure of the outcome but it couldn't have been to much since he is still coaching.

A few years ago I filed a written complaint against a team whose parent/spectator yelled out to my then 12 year old " hey you want to try that on someone a little bigger?" Luckily I did not hear it and did not find out until on the way home. Classic responded by chastising me for not contacting my age group commissioner first instead of emailing the head of A&D. That was all I got for a response.

NRC wrote:Mr SoccerPapa,
So quick to judge? Is this how your kids are? You said you saw the "ending", don't be judging unless you know the facts and are a part of the team. I just want to let you know that these kids aren't encouraged by their parents/coaches to act this way!!

Mr. NRC,
Yes I saw the ending to that game they specifically were talking about. We also played Tigres twice in tournament, and we use to scrimmage Toros quite often last season, so I have plenty of experience with those two teams. When parents are telling their kids "take down their #7, he is the one who scores", that is encouraging that type of behavior. When parents question every call, kids start doing the same on the field. If you could understand spanish, you would be amazed of what is being said.
But like I said, it starts with the parents, I think.

soccerpapa wrote:

NRC wrote:Mr SoccerPapa,
So quick to judge? Is this how your kids are? You said you saw the "ending", don't be judging unless you know the facts and are a part of the team. I just want to let you know that these kids aren't encouraged by their parents/coaches to act this way!!

Mr. NRC,
Yes I saw the ending to that game they specifically were talking about. We also played Tigres twice in tournament, and we use to scrimmage Toros quite often last season, so I have plenty of experience with those two teams. When parents are telling their kids "take down their #7, he is the one who scores", that is encouraging that type of behavior. When parents question every call, kids start doing the same on the field. If you could understand spanish, you would be amazed of what is being said.
But like I said, it starts with the parents, I think.

My question is why are teams like that allowed to play in the Classic League or any other league? If what you are saying is true and the parents are calling for kids to "take out" an opposing player and these teams have a history of this, how long will it take before someone really gets hurt? Does the Classis League not have field monitors or some of type of system to ensure teams like this are outed from the league? Pretty poor if you ask me.

Running wrote:

soccerpapa wrote:

NRC wrote:Mr SoccerPapa,
So quick to judge? Is this how your kids are? You said you saw the "ending", don't be judging unless you know the facts and are a part of the team. I just want to let you know that these kids aren't encouraged by their parents/coaches to act this way!!

Mr. NRC,
Yes I saw the ending to that game they specifically were talking about. We also played Tigres twice in tournament, and we use to scrimmage Toros quite often last season, so I have plenty of experience with those two teams. When parents are telling their kids "take down their #7, he is the one who scores", that is encouraging that type of behavior. When parents question every call, kids start doing the same on the field. If you could understand spanish, you would be amazed of what is being said.
But like I said, it starts with the parents, I think.

My question is why are teams like that allowed to play in the Classic League or any other league? If what you are saying is true and the parents are calling for kids to "take out" an opposing player and these teams have a history of this, how long will it take before someone really gets hurt? Does the Classis League not have field monitors or some of type of system to ensure teams like this are outed from the league? Pretty poor if you ask me.

Stop waiting for someone else to do it. File complaints citing the specific NTSSA bylaws or rules that were violated. That means you have to put some time into it.Get signed statements from other parents and push the issue with CL and then NTSSA. They do have a system but it takes more than people complaining, wanting someone else to do something. It takes stepping up and making a stand publicly to get it done. It takes alot more than a field marshall saying "well someone told me...." to strip someone of their right to coach and the accompanying income.

jimulon6 wrote:

Running wrote:

soccerpapa wrote:

NRC wrote:Mr SoccerPapa,
So quick to judge? Is this how your kids are? You said you saw the "ending", don't be judging unless you know the facts and are a part of the team. I just want to let you know that these kids aren't encouraged by their parents/coaches to act this way!!

Mr. NRC,
Yes I saw the ending to that game they specifically were talking about. We also played Tigres twice in tournament, and we use to scrimmage Toros quite often last season, so I have plenty of experience with those two teams. When parents are telling their kids "take down their #7, he is the one who scores", that is encouraging that type of behavior. When parents question every call, kids start doing the same on the field. If you could understand spanish, you would be amazed of what is being said.
But like I said, it starts with the parents, I think.

My question is why are teams like that allowed to play in the Classic League or any other league? If what you are saying is true and the parents are calling for kids to "take out" an opposing player and these teams have a history of this, how long will it take before someone really gets hurt? Does the Classis League not have field monitors or some of type of system to ensure teams like this are outed from the league? Pretty poor if you ask me.

Long as the money flows anything goes. Those folks who "run" classic don't care.

That brings up another important question. If teams are unhappy with the way the league is run, why couldn't the power broker teams decide to change to another league alltogether and make that the elite league of north texas? They could form a league owned by the clubs as even partners in the league and make their own rules and guidlines. They could kick teams out as they see fit for this type of play. I actually know this will never happen but if I was in charge of one of the clubs, I would make calls to try to get it started. Pipe Dreams I guess....

"Stop waiting for someone else to do it. File complaints citing the specific NTSSA bylaws or rules that were violated. That means you have to put some time into it.Get signed statements from other parents and push the issue with CL and then NTSSA. They do have a system but it takes more than people complaining, wanting someone else to do something. It takes stepping up and making a stand publicly to get it done. It takes alot more than a field marshall saying "well someone told me...." to strip someone of their right to coach and the accompanying income."



yes and make an enemy out of someone with anger issues crazy enough to slap a skid in public and his compliant parent friends. next you will be going after the gambinos huh?

my2cents wrote:

Running wrote:

soccerpapa wrote:

NRC wrote:Mr SoccerPapa,
So quick to judge? Is this how your kids are? You said you saw the "ending", don't be judging unless you know the facts and are a part of the team. I just want to let you know that these kids aren't encouraged by their parents/coaches to act this way!!

Mr. NRC,
Yes I saw the ending to that game they specifically were talking about. We also played Tigres twice in tournament, and we use to scrimmage Toros quite often last season, so I have plenty of experience with those two teams. When parents are telling their kids "take down their #7, he is the one who scores", that is encouraging that type of behavior. When parents question every call, kids start doing the same on the field. If you could understand spanish, you would be amazed of what is being said.
But like I said, it starts with the parents, I think.

My question is why are teams like that allowed to play in the Classic League or any other league? If what you are saying is true and the parents are calling for kids to "take out" an opposing player and these teams have a history of this, how long will it take before someone really gets hurt? Does the Classis League not have field monitors or some of type of system to ensure teams like this are outed from the league? Pretty poor if you ask me.

Stop waiting for someone else to do it. File complaints citing the specific NTSSA bylaws or rules that were violated. That means you have to put some time into it.Get signed statements from other parents and push the issue with CL and then NTSSA. They do have a system but it takes more than people complaining, wanting someone else to do something. It takes stepping up and making a stand publicly to get it done. It takes alot more than a field marshall saying "well someone told me...." to strip someone of their right to coach and the accompanying income.

I completely agree with what your saying here and if I was in this situation, I would hope to follow through and have that done. However, just a few posts up you cited an example where you were blown off for making a complaint. Doesn't sound like it works very well.

Running wrote:

my2cents wrote:

Running wrote:

soccerpapa wrote:

NRC wrote:Mr SoccerPapa,
So quick to judge? Is this how your kids are? You said you saw the "ending", don't be judging unless you know the facts and are a part of the team. I just want to let you know that these kids aren't encouraged by their parents/coaches to act this way!!

Mr. NRC,
Yes I saw the ending to that game they specifically were talking about. We also played Tigres twice in tournament, and we use to scrimmage Toros quite often last season, so I have plenty of experience with those two teams. When parents are telling their kids "take down their #7, he is the one who scores", that is encouraging that type of behavior. When parents question every call, kids start doing the same on the field. If you could understand spanish, you would be amazed of what is being said.
But like I said, it starts with the parents, I think.

My question is why are teams like that allowed to play in the Classic League or any other league? If what you are saying is true and the parents are calling for kids to "take out" an opposing player and these teams have a history of this, how long will it take before someone really gets hurt? Does the Classis League not have field monitors or some of type of system to ensure teams like this are outed from the league? Pretty poor if you ask me.

Stop waiting for someone else to do it. File complaints citing the specific NTSSA bylaws or rules that were violated. That means you have to put some time into it.Get signed statements from other parents and push the issue with CL and then NTSSA. They do have a system but it takes more than people complaining, wanting someone else to do something. It takes stepping up and making a stand publicly to get it done. It takes alot more than a field marshall saying "well someone told me...." to strip someone of their right to coach and the accompanying income.

I completely agree with what your saying here and if I was in this situation, I would hope to follow through and have that done. However, just a few posts up you cited an example where you were blown off for making a complaint. Doesn't sound like it works very well.

I let it go after that. It was going to be hard to prove anything as I did not know which adult it was and it was not heard by any other parents on our sideline. If I had followed up with "I would like an A&D hearing concerning the violation of the NTSSA Spectator Code Of Conduct section 4.3.2 that coccured at..." I likely would have gotten a response. If not then you take the complaint to NTSSA and document everything. It is many times not easy but it can be done and it does work. I know because I have suspended coaches and parents as a VP of A&D at the local level. JM you are talking about an issue involving a judgment call by a ref and that is an entirely different world.

anselansel wrote:


yes and make an enemy out of someone with anger issues crazy enough to slap a skid in public and his compliant parent friends. next you will be going after the gambinos huh?

Whats slap a skid?

Whats slap a skid?

slap a kid's cousin of course!,lol

my2cents wrote:

Soccerinsanity wrote:Perhaps the viewer could have reported it to the Field Marshall as, at the very least, unsportsmanlike conduct from the coach/parent. The officials could have suspended the man as either coach or parent, from attending games.

Much easier said than done. That takes having an A&D hearing, which to make charges stick, requires that the accusing party come and testify. People always want "somebody" to do something but when it gets to the point when the "somebody" is them, then all of a sudden they are not quite as outraged or offended.

true but I bet that parent doesnt do it again if so lets see what happens

And the name of this coach is?? anybody knows??

rocio wrote:And the name of this coach is?? anybody knows??

Beats me. Its not too hard to find out though. Next time you see a Toros game, jus simply ask the coach for his name.

rocio wrote:And the name of this coach is?? anybody knows??

If he is the head coach, here you go.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=19308&ApplicationID=1081684

afrankw wrote:

rocio wrote:And the name of this coach is?? anybody knows??

If he is the head coach, here you go.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=19308&ApplicationID=1081684

I'm assuming you cant read very well. The issue with the coach hitting the kid isnt Tigres, its Toros.

afrankw wrote:

rocio wrote:And the name of this coach is?? anybody knows??

If he is the head coach, here you go.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=19308&ApplicationID=1081684

Could you be with Toros? Coach maybe? Trying to post the link to a Tigres page to take the attention away from your own team and blame them. Why are you posting Tigres? If they had nothing to do with it. They won the game, so why would the Tigres coach be mad?

YM Banger wrote:

afrankw wrote:

rocio wrote:And the name of this coach is?? anybody knows??

If he is the head coach, here you go.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=19308&ApplicationID=1081684

Could you be with Toros? Coach maybe? Trying to post the link to a Tigres page to take the attention away from your own team and blame them. Why are you posting Tigres? If they had nothing to do with it. They won the game, so why would the Tigres coach be mad?

Did you ever think that maybe I had both open and made a mistake and copied the wrong link. No, that one is a little hard to believe. Let's go with I'm the coach of the Toros, that is more interesting.