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    Green Cobra66

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    Join date: 2011-04-22

    Perspective

    Post  Green Cobra66 on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:32 am

    Well after several years of going through the academy and/or req process, we are finally here. Good luck to all of the teams. It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California). After being a part of this for several years, it almost seems like a "big family". I read a statistic that many of these kids will be out of organized sports by age 12. It seems as if many parents are living vicariously through their bb necause they did not achieve their athletic goals or are dissatisfied with their life. This is suppose to be fun for them and will ulitmately be a small chapter of their life. Trust me, 99.9% of our boys will not be going pro. Have fun with this and lighten the grip. If your bb makes a mistake this weekend, he knows it. He feels the pressure. Be supportive. It kills me to see a parent yelling at the kid in the car. If a kid gets hurt from another team duing a game, don't yell, "He has to come out". Be supportive. Be humble. Be classy. Our bb learn from our actions and our behaviors. Have a great weekend of soccer.

    eagle

    Posts: 148
    Join date: 2009-06-24

    Re: Perspective

    Post  eagle on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:53 am

    Green Cobra66 wrote:Well after several years of going through the academy and/or req process, we are finally here. Good luck to all of the teams. It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California). After being a part of this for several years, it almost seems like a "big family". I read a statistic that many of these kids will be out of organized sports by age 12. It seems as if many parents are living vicariously through their bb necause they did not achieve their athletic goals or are dissatisfied with their life. This is suppose to be fun for them and will ulitmately be a small chapter of their life. Trust me, 99.9% of our boys will not be going pro. Have fun with this and lighten the grip. If your bb makes a mistake this weekend, he knows it. He feels the pressure. Be supportive. It kills me to see a parent yelling at the kid in the car. If a kid gets hurt from another team duing a game, don't yell, "He has to come out". Be supportive. Be humble. Be classy. Our bb learn from our actions and our behaviors. Have a great weekend of soccer.

    Well said. Very Happy


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    happyfeet

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    Join date: 2009-07-06

    Re: Perspective

    Post  happyfeet on Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:02 am

    eagle wrote:
    Green Cobra66 wrote:Well after several years of going through the academy and/or req process, we are finally here. Good luck to all of the teams. It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California). After being a part of this for several years, it almost seems like a "big family". I read a statistic that many of these kids will be out of organized sports by age 12. It seems as if many parents are living vicariously through their bb necause they did not achieve their athletic goals or are dissatisfied with their life. This is suppose to be fun for them and will ulitmately be a small chapter of their life. Trust me, 99.9% of our boys will not be going pro. Have fun with this and lighten the grip. If your bb makes a mistake this weekend, he knows it. He feels the pressure. Be supportive. It kills me to see a parent yelling at the kid in the car. If a kid gets hurt from another team duing a game, don't yell, "He has to come out". Be supportive. Be humble. Be classy. Our bb learn from our actions and our behaviors. Have a great weekend of soccer.

    It sounds like you trying convince yourself of these things.

    I think it's a great perspective. It's YOUR comment that makes me worry. Rolling Eyes (I see you have now edited your comment...good for you)


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    eagle

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  eagle on Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:34 am

    happyfeet wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    Green Cobra66 wrote:Well after several years of going through the academy and/or req process, we are finally here. Good luck to all of the teams. It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California). After being a part of this for several years, it almost seems like a "big family". I read a statistic that many of these kids will be out of organized sports by age 12. It seems as if many parents are living vicariously through their bb necause they did not achieve their athletic goals or are dissatisfied with their life. This is suppose to be fun for them and will ulitmately be a small chapter of their life. Trust me, 99.9% of our boys will not be going pro. Have fun with this and lighten the grip. If your bb makes a mistake this weekend, he knows it. He feels the pressure. Be supportive. It kills me to see a parent yelling at the kid in the car. If a kid gets hurt from another team duing a game, don't yell, "He has to come out". Be supportive. Be humble. Be classy. Our bb learn from our actions and our behaviors. Have a great weekend of soccer.

    It sounds like you trying convince yourself of these things.

    I think it's a great perspective. It's YOUR comment that makes me worry. Rolling Eyes

    Don't worry, be Happyfeet.


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    rqps

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  rqps on Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:23 am

    "It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.

    eagle

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    Join date: 2009-06-24

    Re: Perspective

    Post  eagle on Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:20 pm

    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.


    I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.

    jack0fspeed

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    Join date: 2011-02-09

    Re: Perspective

    Post  jack0fspeed on Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:44 pm

    For most of our kids, the QT is going to be the first tournament where the result really matters. For that reason I think it's a good teachable moment.

    First I think it's important to understand that though the competition hasn't even started, a number of teams have already won. That's the ideal place to be in any competition. You need some good luck to get there, but it's mostly a function of great preparation.

    Second ... I think it's important to understand that for the rest of us, success or failure here is going to come down to good or bad fortune, mistakes, and great plays. A great competitor embraces all those things because that's what competition is all about.

    Third ... there's going to be winners and losers here. For the losers of this competition, how they respond to that adversity is, in the end, going to say a lot more about them than the fact that they lost.

    Fourth ... before the competition even starts, everyone can pat themselves on the back for putting themselves in position to contend. It's an achievement unto itself.

    soccerrus2

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    Join date: 2009-06-22

    Re: Perspective

    Post  soccerrus2 on Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:03 pm

    jack0fspeed wrote:For most of our kids, the QT is going to be the first tournament where the result really matters. For that reason I think it's a good teachable moment.


    By the look of the posts...every tourney meant something since they were 6! Very Happy

    Durty-Tackle

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    Join date: 2011-02-22

    Re: Perspective

    Post  Durty-Tackle on Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:13 pm

    ...and please don't give your kid an energy drink before the game. Accelerating your kids blood pressure and heart rate, especially in this heat, can prove to be a huge mistake.

    When you give a kid something to excel his performance, you are inviting them to be dependent on foreign substances to achieve a win.

    Don't be "That Parent"

    Rocketeer

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    Join date: 2011-07-19

    Re: Perspective

    Post  Rocketeer on Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:18 pm

    eagle wrote:
    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.


    I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.



    huh, care to elaborate on that statement. The top talent and we are talking 10 yr olds are associated with ....

    Also the kids in this area are as good as anyone in the country, not all, but the cream. I am not standing up for NTX as I detest the system and select soccer, however I have seen a few kids with very special feet and dribbling skills and power that make them special.


    eagle

    Posts: 148
    Join date: 2009-06-24

    Re: Perspective

    Post  eagle on Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:35 pm

    Rocketeer wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.


    I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.



    huh, care to elaborate on that statement. The top talent and we are talking 10 yr olds are associated with ....

    Also the kids in this area are as good as anyone in the country, not all, but the cream. I am not standing up for NTX as I detest the system and select soccer, however I have seen a few kids with very special feet and dribbling skills and power that make them special.


    I was referring to the U14/U15 age group that was referenced in this post. A number of the top kids in that age group don't participate in ODP or NTX any longer. So in essence I was disagreeing with the conclusion that this area does not have a number of top tier soccer players by any standard. There are several representing the North Texas area on the US Federation youth teams, which I think is a much better indicator. Plus if you look at how well this area does in the Academy and still has enough talent left over to be competitive in USYS, I think that is quite impressive. I believe only the Souther Cal area would come close.

    Rocketeer

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    Join date: 2011-07-19

    Re: Perspective

    Post  Rocketeer on Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:46 pm

    eagle wrote:
    Rocketeer wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.





    I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.



    huh, care to elaborate on that statement. The top talent and we are talking 10 yr olds are associated with ....

    Also the kids in this area are as good as anyone in the country, not all, but the cream. I am not standing up for NTX as I detest the system and select soccer, however I have seen a few kids with very special feet and dribbling skills and power that make them special.


    I was referring to the U14/U15 age group that was referenced in this post. A number of the top kids in that age group don't participate in ODP or NTX any longer. So in essence I was disagreeing with the conclusion that this area does not have a number of top tier soccer players by any standard. There are several representing the North Texas area on the US Federation youth teams, which I think is a much better indicator. Plus if you look at how well this area does in the Academy and still has enough talent left over to be competitive in USYS, I think that is quite impressive. I believe only the Souther Cal area would come close.


    Yes you are right, my mistake, thought we were talking about U 10/11. I need to learn to read and comprehend.

    eastx

    Posts: 33
    Join date: 2011-08-05

    Re: Perspective

    Post  eastx on Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:42 pm

    new to the forum........coming from east tx we are just glad to have the oppertunity to try and compete in this tournemant with all the big clubs and surounding areas. i havent seen many folks talkn bout east tx teams on here.....lol

    best of luck to all

    thx


    slampg

    Posts: 215
    Join date: 2010-10-13

    Re: Perspective

    Post  slampg on Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:46 pm

    eastx wrote:new to the forum........coming from east tx we are just glad to have the oppertunity to try and compete in this tournemant with all the big clubs and surounding areas. i havent seen many folks talkn bout east tx teams on here.....lol

    best of luck to all

    thx



    Smack a couple DFW area teams around and we'll be sure to be talkin' about ya! Good luck this weekend!

    eastx

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    Join date: 2011-08-05

    Re: Perspective

    Post  eastx on Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:28 pm

    lol....thx we try!

    its alittle differant as how we are able to prepair around here vs metroplex oppertunities and player commitment level...but there going to give it their best...its always a learning experience when we go to the metroplex, have seen alot of good soccer at this age its unbelievible sometimes, but we have a good coach and whose focus is development for the future for each kid....we love it

    thx!

    slampg

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  slampg on Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:40 pm

    eastx wrote:lol....thx we try!

    its alittle differant as how we are able to prepair around here vs metroplex oppertunities and player commitment level...but there going to give it their best...its always a learning experience when we go to the metroplex, have seen alot of good soccer at this age its unbelievible sometimes, but we have a good coach and whose focus is development for the future for each kid....we love it

    thx!


    Then you've already won.

    Whether you make it select or not, are you guys planning on driving in to the metroplex each weekend for league games? Seems like a long way to drive.

    eastx

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    Join date: 2011-08-05

    Re: Perspective

    Post  eastx on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:03 pm

    absolutely!!!!

    we will be driving to the metroplex for league play one way or another is my understanding,he(son) was going to try out for odp next week as well but they cancelled, which i didnt understand why 3 continous day between qt....not to mention the heat. we will do whatever is in the best interest of his development as a player as well as teamate. like i mentioned earlier,right now we have a great coach and capeble team, and with the proper amount of time to function as a team they will develop, i figure were def behind the dfw area due to home association rules concerning academey, player commitment, as well as player pool ect...but there working hard so we will see what the future holds....

    we may be looking to play in the area one day who knows!....whats the general cost to play on a team in the area?

    thx

    slampg

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  slampg on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:16 pm

    eastx wrote:absolutely!!!!

    we will be driving to the metroplex for league play one way or another is my understanding,he(son) was going to try out for odp next week as well but they cancelled, which i didnt understand why 3 continous day between qt....not to mention the heat. we will do whatever is in the best interest of his development as a player as well as teamate. like i mentioned earlier,right now we have a great coach and capeble team, and with the proper amount of time to function as a team they will develop, i figure were def behind the dfw area due to home association rules concerning academey, player commitment, as well as player pool ect...but there working hard so we will see what the future holds....

    we may be looking to play in the area one day who knows!....whats the general cost to play on a team in the area?

    thx


    Cost? There are whole threads up here discussing the fees. Generally, the big clubs total cost is in the $2000 - $3000 range, smaller clubs are usually a fair amount less. Could be a big investment when you factor in the gas and time to get here.

    rqps

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  rqps on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:23 pm

    eagle wrote:
    Rocketeer wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.


    I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.



    huh, care to elaborate on that statement. The top talent and we are talking 10 yr olds are associated with ....

    Also the kids in this area are as good as anyone in the country, not all, but the cream. I am not standing up for NTX as I detest the system and select soccer, however I have seen a few kids with very special feet and dribbling skills and power that make them special.


    I was referring to the U14/U15 age group that was referenced in this post. A number of the top kids in that age group don't participate in ODP or NTX any longer. So in essence I was disagreeing with the conclusion that this area does not have a number of top tier soccer players by any standard. There are several representing the North Texas area on the US Federation youth teams, which I think is a much better indicator. Plus if you look at how well this area does in the Academy and still has enough talent left over to be competitive in USYS, I think that is quite impressive. I believe only the Souther Cal area would come close.


    If you are on the one of the USSF academey teams you can still represent on the national team or national camp. Very few kids from our area represent on the national team. Our kids in this area play well in the club system but as individuals other parts of the country represent better. Dont look at club results... look at individual representation from texas for the national team at any age and you will see very little representation.

    eastx

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    Join date: 2011-08-05

    Re: Perspective

    Post  eastx on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:37 pm

    your right

    .....as long as good coaching is availible and enough players it will be fine, was just curious cause you never know what could happen. we have some friends with older children who do and have played on some of the more recognizable teams and it has payed huge dividens in there development coming up as a youth(not that it gaurentess anything), granted i dont believe the quality of coaching we have now was availible at their time as well as the small town player/parent commitment problems as well. we just want the best for him as he pursues his dream.....

    thx

    eastx

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  eastx on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:42 pm

    slampg your right....wasnt responding to the post about national team players....sorry

    thx

    my2cents

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  my2cents on Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:10 pm

    rqps wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    Rocketeer wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.


    [b]I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.
    [

    huh, care to elaborate on that statement. The top talent and we are talking 10 yr olds are associated with ....

    Also the kids in this area are as good as anyone in the country, not all, but the cream. I am not standing up for NTX as I detest the system and select soccer, however I have seen a few kids with very special feet and dribbling skills and power that make them special.


    I was referring to the U14/U15 age group that was referenced in this post. A number of the top kids in that age group don't participate in ODP or NTX any longer. So in essence I was disagreeing with the conclusion that this area does not have a number of top tier soccer players by any standard. There are several representing the North Texas area on the US Federation youth teams, which I think is a much better indicator. Plus if you look at how well this area does in the Academy and still has enough talent left over to be competitive in USYS, I think that is quite impressive. I believe only the Souther Cal area would come close.


    If you are on the one of the USSF academey teams you can still represent on the national team or national camp. Very few kids from our area represent on the national team. Our kids in this area play well in the club system but as individuals other parts of the country represent better. Dont look at club results... look at individual representation from texas for the national team at any age and you will see very little representation.


    3 players from NTX in both the U15 and U17 National Team Pool is what you call very little representation?

    rqps

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  rqps on Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:10 pm

    my2cents wrote:
    rqps wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    Rocketeer wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.


    [b]I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.
    [

    huh, care to elaborate on that statement. The top talent and we are talking 10 yr olds are associated with ....

    Also the kids in this area are as good as anyone in the country, not all, but the cream. I am not standing up for NTX as I detest the system and select soccer, however I have seen a few kids with very special feet and dribbling skills and power that make them special.


    I was referring to the U14/U15 age group that was referenced in this post. A number of the top kids in that age group don't participate in ODP or NTX any longer. So in essence I was disagreeing with the conclusion that this area does not have a number of top tier soccer players by any standard. There are several representing the North Texas area on the US Federation youth teams, which I think is a much better indicator. Plus if you look at how well this area does in the Academy and still has enough talent left over to be competitive in USYS, I think that is quite impressive. I believe only the Souther Cal area would come close.


    If you are on the one of the USSF academey teams you can still represent on the national team or national camp. Very few kids from our area represent on the national team. Our kids in this area play well in the club system but as individuals other parts of the country represent better. Dont look at club results... look at individual representation from texas for the national team at any age and you will see very little representation.


    3 players from NTX in both the U15 and U17 National Team Pool is what you call very little representation?


    When you compare to other parts of the country... Yeah I do.

    eagle

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    Re: Perspective

    Post  eagle on Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:30 pm

    rqps wrote:
    my2cents wrote:
    rqps wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    Rocketeer wrote:
    eagle wrote:
    rqps wrote:"It is amazing to see the level of talent in this area. Most of these kids would excel in any other area of the country. If your bb lacks playing time, realize this is one of the most competitive areas in the country (North Texas/Florida/Sountern California)."

    I am not sure this statement is correct based on the representation for NTX at the u14/u15 national team this week.

    We have players that play well in the NTX system. If you ask those players to stand alone and excel as an individual player they do not perform as well as other parts of the country.


    [b]I think it is safe to say that some of the top talent in these age groups are no longer associated with NTX.
    [

    huh, care to elaborate on that statement. The top talent and we are talking 10 yr olds are associated with ....

    Also the kids in this area are as good as anyone in the country, not all, but the cream. I am not standing up for NTX as I detest the system and select soccer, however I have seen a few kids with very special feet and dribbling skills and power that make them special.


    I was referring to the U14/U15 age group that was referenced in this post. A number of the top kids in that age group don't participate in ODP or NTX any longer. So in essence I was disagreeing with the conclusion that this area does not have a number of top tier soccer players by any standard. There are several representing the North Texas area on the US Federation youth teams, which I think is a much better indicator. Plus if you look at how well this area does in the Academy and still has enough talent left over to be competitive in USYS, I think that is quite impressive. I believe only the Souther Cal area would come close.


    If you are on the one of the USSF academey teams you can still represent on the national team or national camp. Very few kids from our area represent on the national team. Our kids in this area play well in the club system but as individuals other parts of the country represent better. Dont look at club results... look at individual representation from texas for the national team at any age and you will see very little representation.


    3 players from NTX in both the U15 and U17 National Team Pool is what you call very little representation?


    When you compare to other parts of the country... Yeah I do.


    You would be wrong. North Texas has 4 on the US Men's team pool, including their top scoring threat Clint Dempsey. North Texas has 5 on the US Men's U20 Pool. North Texas had 2 starters on the U17 team that just played in the World Cup. Other than Southern Cal, no other part of the country comes close.

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