Almost halfway done with the Fall season - looking ahead to Dallas Cup invitations so I thought I would give my picks on the standings at the end of the Fall season.

1. SR 25 points
2. DTS 22 points
3. DT 18 points
4. DTR 16 points
4 Barca 16 points
6. FCD 13 points
7. FCDY 8 points
8. FCD-C 6 points
9. Titans 5 points
10. Comets 0 points

If I am right - it could come down to goal differential for Barca and DTR to determine Dallas Cup invites.

Big congrats to DTR - they only got into D-1 through a bye, but they sure have proved they belong!!!

i don't think so.

Texans get two as host club as long as the two are top 7.

Then the next two highest, regardless of club, get invite. If they earn it, they get it.

afrankw wrote:

ontherightside wrote:Almost halfway done with the Fall season - looking ahead to Dallas Cup invitations so I thought I would give my picks on the standings at the end of the Fall season.

1. SR 25 points
2. DTS 22 points
3. DT 18 points
4. DTR 16 points
4 Barca 16 points
6. FCD 13 points
7. FCDY 8 points
8. FCD-C 6 points
9. Titans 5 points
10. Comets 0 points

If I am right - it could come down to goal differential for Barca and DTR to determine Dallas Cup invites.

Big congrats to DTR - they only got into D-1 through a bye, but they sure have proved they belong!!!

I might be wrong, but I think that the Dallas Texans only get two bids, even if there are more in the top four.

Still a bit early to be making Dallas Cup predictions in my opinion. I also think that this using pre-academy players is not the right thing to do for a couple of reasons. If I'm not mistaken, Solar Red, FCD Premier, and DT Red are the only three teams that have pre-academy players. So if these teams go to out of town tournies (ie. Disney) or make Dallas Cup, will the pre-academy players even be playing? So then what is really the point of having pre-academy players "play down"? Ok, some will say it provides extra touches and blah blah, but I'm not so sure. I still think it's all about the club and coach and the win at all costs mentality. Now if you have a full time classic team player that plays up on pre-academy when possible, that is completely understandable. I'm pretty happy with what our team is doing and the kids know what they have to do to earn a spot at Dallas Cup. I think we could always go get a few well qualified players from our pre-academy team to help win if that was the goal at hand. Luckily our coach is not resorting to that........yet........lol.

Having said that, I think Barca may be the most rounded team in classic right now. I watched them play DTS in a tourny and thought they outplayed them and perhaps game coaching is what cost them the game. I also saw part of their loss against DTR and the last 10 - 15 minutes was a barrage of shots on goal that just missed and some outstanding saves by the DTR goalie. We didn't have our big boy against Barca due to injury which hurt us, but they still out-played us.

So I'm not so sure on your early Dallas Cup predictions just yet as I think you'll see some movement and improvement by teams by the 2nd half. Right now we are just gonna focus on our next game as the outcome against DTR should be telling and they sure seem to be playing well right now.

Not sure what you are worried about, Axx. Your team is an automatic invitation.

As far as PA dual-rostered, you forgot one, DTS has one.

Axxman wrote:

afrankw wrote:

ontherightside wrote:Almost halfway done with the Fall season - looking ahead to Dallas Cup invitations so I thought I would give my picks on the standings at the end of the Fall season.

1. SR 25 points
2. DTS 22 points
3. DT 18 points
4. DTR 16 points
4 Barca 16 points
6. FCD 13 points
7. FCDY 8 points
8. FCD-C 6 points
9. Titans 5 points
10. Comets 0 points

If I am right - it could come down to goal differential for Barca and DTR to determine Dallas Cup invites.

Big congrats to DTR - they only got into D-1 through a bye, but they sure have proved they belong!!!

I might be wrong, but I think that the Dallas Texans only get two bids, even if there are more in the top four.

Still a bit early to be making Dallas Cup predictions in my opinion. I also think that this using pre-academy players is not the right thing to do for a couple of reasons. If I'm not mistaken, Solar Red, FCD Premier, and DT Red are the only three teams that have pre-academy players. So if these teams go to out of town tournies (ie. Disney) or make Dallas Cup, will the pre-academy players even be playing? So then what is really the point of having pre-academy players "play down"? Ok, some will say it provides extra touches and blah blah, but I'm not so sure. I still think it's all about the club and coach and the win at all costs mentality. Now if you have a full time classic team player that plays up on pre-academy when possible, that is completely understandable. I'm pretty happy with what our team is doing and the kids know what they have to do to earn a spot at Dallas Cup. I think we could always go get a few well qualified players from our pre-academy team to help win if that was the goal at hand. Luckily our coach is not resorting to that........yet........lol.

Having said that, I think Barca may be the most rounded team in classic right now. I watched them play DTS in a tourny and thought they outplayed them and perhaps game coaching is what cost them the game. I also saw part of their loss against DTR and the last 10 - 15 minutes was a barrage of shots on goal that just missed and some outstanding saves by the DTR goalie. We didn't have our big boy against Barca due to injury which hurt us, but they still out-played us.

So I'm not so sure on your early Dallas Cup predictions just yet as I think you'll see some movement and improvement by teams by the 2nd half. Right now we are just gonna focus on our next game as the outcome against DTR should be telling and they sure seem to be playing well right now.

If it was win at all costs mentality - wouldn't they have their absolute best PA players be dual-rostered????

ontherightside wrote:Not sure what you are worried about, Axx. Your team is an automatic invitation.

As far as PA dual-rostered, you forgot one, DTS has one.

I'm not counting any chickens just yet. And we are not an automatic bid unless we earn it. If two Texan teams finish top 3 and we are not within that 3, we will not qualify, regardless of what spot we finish in (even if it's in spot 4 thru 7).

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:

afrankw wrote:

ontherightside wrote:Almost halfway done with the Fall season - looking ahead to Dallas Cup invitations so I thought I would give my picks on the standings at the end of the Fall season.

1. SR 25 points
2. DTS 22 points
3. DT 18 points
4. DTR 16 points
4 Barca 16 points
6. FCD 13 points
7. FCDY 8 points
8. FCD-C 6 points
9. Titans 5 points
10. Comets 0 points

If I am right - it could come down to goal differential for Barca and DTR to determine Dallas Cup invites.

Big congrats to DTR - they only got into D-1 through a bye, but they sure have proved they belong!!!

I might be wrong, but I think that the Dallas Texans only get two bids, even if there are more in the top four.

Still a bit early to be making Dallas Cup predictions in my opinion. I also think that this using pre-academy players is not the right thing to do for a couple of reasons. If I'm not mistaken, Solar Red, FCD Premier, and DT Red are the only three teams that have pre-academy players. So if these teams go to out of town tournies (ie. Disney) or make Dallas Cup, will the pre-academy players even be playing? So then what is really the point of having pre-academy players "play down"? Ok, some will say it provides extra touches and blah blah, but I'm not so sure. I still think it's all about the club and coach and the win at all costs mentality. Now if you have a full time classic team player that plays up on pre-academy when possible, that is completely understandable. I'm pretty happy with what our team is doing and the kids know what they have to do to earn a spot at Dallas Cup. I think we could always go get a few well qualified players from our pre-academy team to help win if that was the goal at hand. Luckily our coach is not resorting to that........yet........lol.

Having said that, I think Barca may be the most rounded team in classic right now. I watched them play DTS in a tourny and thought they outplayed them and perhaps game coaching is what cost them the game. I also saw part of their loss against DTR and the last 10 - 15 minutes was a barrage of shots on goal that just missed and some outstanding saves by the DTR goalie. We didn't have our big boy against Barca due to injury which hurt us, but they still out-played us.

So I'm not so sure on your early Dallas Cup predictions just yet as I think you'll see some movement and improvement by teams by the 2nd half. Right now we are just gonna focus on our next game as the outcome against DTR should be telling and they sure seem to be playing well right now.

If it was win at all costs mentality - wouldn't they have their absolute best PA players be dual-rostered????

Good point, perhaps it's a win at some cost mentality. And I doubt they would get the absolute best to agree to play down.

Axxman wrote:

ontherightside wrote:Not sure what you are worried about, Axx. Your team is an automatic invitation.

As far as PA dual-rostered, you forgot one, DTS has one.

I'm not counting any chickens just yet. And we are not an automatic bid unless we earn it. If two Texan teams finish top 3 and we are not within that 3, we will not qualify, regardless of what spot we finish in (even if it's in spot 4 thru 7).

I am not seeing the rules that way -- maybe you could show me where it limits Texans to two invites. I know that they get two if top seven, but then all it says is next two highest - no restriction. You guys may be correct, I am just missing it in the rules.

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:

ontherightside wrote:Not sure what you are worried about, Axx. Your team is an automatic invitation.

As far as PA dual-rostered, you forgot one, DTS has one.

I'm not counting any chickens just yet. And we are not an automatic bid unless we earn it. If two Texan teams finish top 3 and we are not within that 3, we will not qualify, regardless of what spot we finish in (even if it's in spot 4 thru 7).

I am not seeing the rules that way -- maybe you could show me where it limits Texans to two invites. I know that they get two if top seven, but then all it says is next two highest - no restriction. You guys may be correct, I am just missing it in the rules.

I stated something incorrectly. We can finish 4th and still go. What we've been told is that only 4 teams from our age group will be invited to Dallas Cup. The top two Texan teams and the top two classic league teams. The only way for all 3 Texan teams to go is all 3 finish in the top 4. If that doesn't happen, then we would either need to finish as the 1st or 2nd Texan team or in the top four of Classic League.

that is my understanding as well.

I guess I said automatic because I don't see your team finishing out of the top four.

ontherightside wrote:that is my understanding as well.

I guess I said automatic because I don't see your team finishing out of the top four.

Well I hope you are correct. If we do not finish top 4 we should not be invited, even if we were to finish as one of the top two Texan teams. Would not be fair to the team that gets left out. One of the few (or many) Texan deals I don't much agree with.

On a side note, looking forward to watching the Texan vs FCD pre-academy match this coming Sunday.

ontherightside wrote:Not sure what you are worried about, Axx. Your team is an automatic invitation.

As far as PA dual-rostered, you forgot one, DTS has one.

DTS you mean their defender? i believe he mainly plays with DTS?

omega striker wrote:

ontherightside wrote:Not sure what you are worried about, Axx. Your team is an automatic invitation.

As far as PA dual-rostered, you forgot one, DTS has one.

DTS you mean their defender? i believe he mainly plays with DTS?

I think you are right - don't think he or the DTR kid have played PA (they are not "playing down" - they are CL boys for all purposes)and the two FCD boys skipped the CL game against DT all of which goes right against Axx's complaint, but whatever.

Axxman wrote:

ontherightside wrote:that is my understanding as well.

I guess I said automatic because I don't see your team finishing out of the top four.

Well I hope you are correct. If we do not finish top 4 we should not be invited, even if we were to finish as one of the top two Texan teams. Would not be fair to the team that gets left out. One of the few (or many) Texan deals I don't much agree with.

On a side note, looking forward to watching the Texan vs FCD pre-academy match this coming Sunday.

Should not be that close - Texans should take it.

Dallas Cup invites are based on the standings at the end of the Fall season, correct?

finish1 wrote:Dallas Cup invites are based on the standings at the end of the Fall season, correct?

Yes, but not for PA. They will determine the date, my bet is after the Nov. games and it is based on Dallas area head to heads. Only one PA team gets invite, and the U13 PA will play U14 DC.

I knew about the U14 DC age group issue (same as Disney). Makes sense to have November as the cutoff (matches the end of Fall for CL).


Axx, you guys are halfway through the Fall season and some tough matches ahead (DTR, DTS then SR).

finish1 wrote:I knew about the U14 DC age group issue (same as Disney). Makes sense to have November as the cutoff (matches the end of Fall for CL).


Axx, you guys are halfway through the Fall season and some tough matches ahead (DTR, DTS then SR).

Indeed we do but then again, so do they.

Axxman wrote:

finish1 wrote:I knew about the U14 DC age group issue (same as Disney). Makes sense to have November as the cutoff (matches the end of Fall for CL).


Axx, you guys are halfway through the Fall season and some tough matches ahead (DTR, DTS then SR).

Indeed we do but then again, so do they.

Axx your my boy blue! but without the huge kid in defense your in some deep doo doo coming up and i gotta pick against you against those teams! I hope that doesnt take me off the xams list

omega striker wrote:

Axxman wrote:

finish1 wrote:I knew about the U14 DC age group issue (same as Disney). Makes sense to have November as the cutoff (matches the end of Fall for CL).


Axx, you guys are halfway through the Fall season and some tough matches ahead (DTR, DTS then SR).

Indeed we do but then again, so do they.

Axx your my boy blue! but without the huge kid in defense your in some deep doo doo coming up and i gotta pick against you against those teams! I hope that doesnt take me off the xams list

I do think that size has lots to do with it right now. If you look at SR, DTR, DTS, and Barca, they all have big boys that pose match up problems for the rest of us. In fact I saw a couple of them parking their cars at Richland this past weekend. But seriously, our big boy is out for at least one more game and that certainly does not help, but don't count us out. In fact I was at practice tonight and slipped the boys some estrogen blockers so we should come out feisty.

ontherightside wrote:Almost halfway done with the Fall season - looking ahead to Dallas Cup invitations so I thought I would give my picks on the standings at the end of the Fall season.

1. SR 25 points
2. DTS 22 points
3. DT 18 points
4. DTR 16 points
4 Barca 16 points
6. FCD 13 points
7. FCDY 8 points
8. FCD-C 6 points
9. Titans 5 points
10. Comets 0 points

If I am right - it could come down to goal differential for Barca and DTR to determine Dallas Cup invites.

Big congrats to DTR - they only got into D-1 through a bye, but they sure have proved they belong!!!

After this week-end's results, I have to update my end of Fall season predictions. I had DT beating DTR and Titans and FCD -C tying.

1. SR 25 points
2. DTS 22 points
3. DTR 17 points
4. DT 16 points
4. Barca 16 points
6. FCD 13 points
7. FCDY 8 points
8. Titans 7 points
9. FCD-C 5 points
10.Comets 0 points

Looks like now the battle for Dallas Cup will be between Barca and DT.

Hey OTRS, my suspicions are that you are with DTR, would like to get your thoughts on that game. And for the record, I'm gonna predict DT finishes with either 17 or 19 points. Willing to take bets for the fun of it.

Sorry, Axx. Not with DTR - have no ideas on how the game went, but I can guess. Their BFS striker put one in on your team. Looks like ML should not have sent him away so quickly.

ontherightside wrote:Sorry, Axx. Not with DTR - have no ideas on how the game went, but I can guess. Their BFS striker put one in on your team. Looks like ML should not have sent him away so quickly.

You're not one of these know it alls that's scared to reveal what team they back are you?

Well that confirms you weren't there cause the striker you reference sat out due to a previous red card. As to your wise comment, ML wasn't interested in kick and run to win. No disrespect to that bb cause he seems like a great kid, and although big, fast and athletic, his skills where not there yet at the time.

Their goal came on a nice little shove to our sweeper that created the necessary space to get a nice cross post shot off that hit the side of the net.

I'm not a know it all - in fact, I know very little when it comes to this sport, but here's one thing I do know, Coaches do read this thing (for some reason) and my BB is not good enough to overcome a negative perception of his parents. Although, you should notice I usually try to stay away from saying anything negative about any team or player. That's not my thing. If I have offended you, I apologize.

ontherightside wrote:I'm not a know it all - in fact, I know very little when it comes to this sport, but here's one thing I do know, Coaches do read this thing (for some reason) and my BB is not good enough to overcome a negative perception of his parents. Although, you should notice I usually try to stay away from saying anything negative about any team or player. That's not my thing. If I have offended you, I apologize.

No need to apologize as you have not offended me in any way. I was just being nosy that's all. One of these years when it's all said and done it would be interesting to learn some identities for curiosities sake, including the likes of OTRS and Speedy.

By the way, I did not mean anything negative on DTR's big boy, just stating my opinion. I do think if he was in the lineup the outcome may have been different. I for one was hoping ML would've kept him because as stated he was a very nice kid and seemed to me like he was willing to work hard and would improve quickly (maybe he has as he seems to be contributing big for DTR). But I have given up trying to figure out these coaches and their reasoning/goals.

But I have given up trying to figure out these coaches and their reasoning/goals.[/quote]


AMEN!!!