1. Liverpool Gerard over CFVC Cole 3-0. (Liverpool remains UNDEFEATED)

2. Odyssey over CVFC Cole 2-0 (Odyssey playing well as of late)

3. DT Scott over FCD Toros: 2-0.

4. DT Scott v. Solar BLue: Solar BLue to win 2-1( Blue is still a good team even without any Dynamo Players)

5. LP Rush Fagenover DT. United 3-1.

6. DT South v FCD Goncalves: DT South 3-0. Goncalves is good team but DTS coming off 4-0 win over Crushers and have their scoring boots back on.

7. FCD PRemiere over Dynamo 2-0. Close game but FCD pulls it out.

8. Odyssey over FCD Toros 3-1: Odyssey stronger than FCD Toros.

9. SOlar Red Crushers over TFC 3-0. (I have this as game of the week. After talk from TFC regarding LP Gerrard, this will be a good chance for TFC to show they are top five team. If they can win, will be much props to TFC, but do not see it happening based upon past results.)

Good luck 02's.

Solar Red Crushers white vs. TFC Larry this weekend. Last time TFC played this team, Solar won 2-1 (Primetime Fall Kick Classic in August). I expect a similar result. Tough, hard fought game with a close score. Hope TFC wins. They need another win against a top team.

DT Scott vs. Solar Blue 1-0 Solar Blue

Was a good competitive match imho, good to see Blue getting back on track

madisonmyers wrote:Solar Red Crushers white vs. TFC Larry this weekend. Last time TFC played this team, Solar won 2-1 (Primetime Fall Kick Classic in August). I expect a similar result. Tough, hard fought game with a close score. Hope TFC wins. They need another win against a top team.

Solar Red Crushers white beat TFC Larry 1-0 in the last minute of the game. A player missed a clearance and Solar Crushers capitalized on it.

Congrats Solar!!!!

Solar Crushers white vs. TFC Larry. Very defense-oriented game. Very few runs made by either team. It sort of degenerated into kickball both ways, neither team making good passes. Both offenses were very disrupted by the other team. Should have ended in a 0-0 tie if not for one ball that TFC failed to clear in the last minutes. Difficult game both ways. Well-matched teams.

davito wrote:So how was DTS v Goncalves? I've been impressed by Goncalves but still didn't expect them to win this one. Was it an even game?

Surprise,, surprice FC Dallas Goncalves 2 DT South 1

davito wrote:The first half was pretty even after an uncertain start by TFC. But Solar pegged TFC back in the second half and thoroughly deserved their goal. No one player stood out for the Crushers, just all around good players.

TFC have come a really long way this year and yet again showed they are close to the top teams but just lacking that little bit of team depth.

Very close to being a top team. Just a couple of key positions and maybe some bench strength and they will be a contender.

Some interesting results over the weekend:


1. LP Gerrard tied CVFC 1-1. ( It appears the CVFC team is pretty good to stay with LP Gerrard)LP will bounce back next week.

2. DT United/Scott beat LP Fagen 2-1. I had this game the other way around. Good job DT.

3. Dynamo v. FCD Premiere Snell. ( Not sure who won this game)

4. Crushers v. TFC: Crushers only winning 1-0. Thought it would be larger but TFC keeps hanging tough. Getting closer to a win over a top team.

5. FCD Goncalves over DTS 2-1. A suprise but not unbelievable. The top teams are getting closer and on any given day any team can beat the other one. Saw this game and FCD Goncalves will be pushing for top spot in the Spring and towards Select. Just not yet. Still have to give DTS top spot for now.

6. Odyssey bumped up to 6th place in rankings last week and beat FCD Toros 3-0 and CVFC 2-1. Not quite the top level of teams, but winning the last few weeks to climb higher in rankings.

WRG wrote:Some interesting results over the weekend:


1. LP Gerrard tied CVFC 1-1. ( It appears the CVFC team is pretty good to stay with LP Gerrard)LP will bounce back next week.

2. DT United/Scott beat LP Fagen 2-1. I had this game the other way around. Good job DT.

3. Dynamo over FCD Premiere Snell. I also picked this game for FCD. Dynamo trying to make a move back to the top. Good win over a good team.

4. Crushers v. TFC: Crushers only winning 1-0. Thought it would be larger but TFC keeps hanging tough. Getting closer to a win over a top team.

5. FCD Goncalves over DTS 2-1. A suprise but not unbelievable. The top teams are getting closer and on any given day any team can beat the other one. Saw this game and FCD Goncalves will be pushing for top spot in the Spring and towards Select. Just not yet. Still have to give DTS top spot for now.

6. Odyssey bumped up to 6th place in rankings last week and beat FCD Toros 3-0 and CVFC 2-1. Not quite the top level of teams, but winning the last few weeks to climb higher in rankings.

Hey, WRG
What was the score on Dinamo vs FCD Premier? Also, how was DTS vs FCD Goncalves game? Heard that FCD dominated the game?

ManU wrote:

WRG wrote:Some interesting results over the weekend:


1. LP Gerrard tied CVFC 1-1. ( It appears the CVFC team is pretty good to stay with LP Gerrard)LP will bounce back next week.

2. DT United/Scott beat LP Fagen 2-1. I had this game the other way around. Good job DT.

3. Dynamo over FCD Premiere Snell. I also picked this game for FCD. Dynamo trying to make a move back to the top. Good win over a good team.

4. Crushers v. TFC: Crushers only winning 1-0. Thought it would be larger but TFC keeps hanging tough. Getting closer to a win over a top team.

5. FCD Goncalves over DTS 2-1. A suprise but not unbelievable. The top teams are getting closer and on any given day any team can beat the other one. Saw this game and FCD Goncalves will be pushing for top spot in the Spring and towards Select. Just not yet. Still have to give DTS top spot for now.

6. Odyssey bumped up to 6th place in rankings last week and beat FCD Toros 3-0 and CVFC 2-1. Not quite the top level of teams, but winning the last few weeks to climb higher in rankings.

Hey, WRG
What was the score on Dinamo vs FCD Premier? Also, how was DTS vs FCD Goncalves game? Heard that FCD dominated the game?

I got the Dynamo score from the scorebook but checking a second time it has both Dynamo and FCD premiere losing 2-1. Not sure who won that game.


The FCD v. DTS game was a good game. Did not see it as FCD dominating but definately had chances. DTS is DTS and will always be a top team if they keep their players together, but as I have said before, I think it is getting closer at the top.

ManU wrote:

WRG wrote:Some interesting results over the weekend:


1. LP Gerrard tied CVFC 1-1. ( It appears the CVFC team is pretty good to stay with LP Gerrard)LP will bounce back next week.

2. DT United/Scott beat LP Fagen 2-1. I had this game the other way around. Good job DT.

3. Dynamo over FCD Premiere Snell. I also picked this game for FCD. Dynamo trying to make a move back to the top. Good win over a good team.

4. Crushers v. TFC: Crushers only winning 1-0. Thought it would be larger but TFC keeps hanging tough. Getting closer to a win over a top team.

5. FCD Goncalves over DTS 2-1. A suprise but not unbelievable. The top teams are getting closer and on any given day any team can beat the other one. Saw this game and FCD Goncalves will be pushing for top spot in the Spring and towards Select. Just not yet. Still have to give DTS top spot for now.

6. Odyssey bumped up to 6th place in rankings last week and beat FCD Toros 3-0 and CVFC 2-1. Not quite the top level of teams, but winning the last few weeks to climb higher in rankings.

Hey, WRG
What was the score on Dinamo vs FCD Premier? Also, how was DTS vs FCD Goncalves game? Heard that FCD dominated the game?

FCD-G played more aggressively and won the game fairly. DTS had some opportunities and despite missing 3 starters (forward, midfielder and defender) the boys didn't capitalize. It's tough adjusting to key absences against opponents of this caliber, but most of the DTS parents felt the competition was really good. Nice work FCD.

accidentalelbow wrote:
FCD-G played more aggressively and won the game fairly. DTS had some opportunities and despite missing 3 starters (forward, midfielder and defender) the boys didn't capitalize. It's tough adjusting to key absences against opponents of this caliber, but most of the DTS parents felt the competition was really good. Nice work FCD.

I have really enjoyed reading all of the '02 talk this season and how seriously the parents take these games/standings. So I'm curious...

How many shots on goal did DTS manage with their starting forward and midfielder missing? I'm sure that stat would be an interesting one. Elbow - you're the keeper of that stat, correct?

Also, since they did have 3 starters out, was the bench just light by 3, or did DTS have some "guest" players?

Soccerdad79, Creeper, or any other DTS poster is welcome to jump in and respond.

frisco hooligan wrote:

accidentalelbow wrote:
FCD-G played more aggressively and won the game fairly. DTS had some opportunities and despite missing 3 starters (forward, midfielder and defender) the boys didn't capitalize. It's tough adjusting to key absences against opponents of this caliber, but most of the DTS parents felt the competition was really good. Nice work FCD.

I have really enjoyed reading all of the '02 talk this season and how seriously the parents take these games/standings. So I'm curious...

How many shots on goal did DTS manage with their starting forward and midfielder missing? I'm sure that stat would be an interesting one. Elbow - you're the keeper of that stat, correct?

Also, since they did have 3 starters out, was the bench just light by 3, or did DTS have some "guest" players?

Soccerdad79, Creeper, or any other DTS poster is welcome to jump in and respond.

No guest players for DTS. All players on the field are the same players on the original roster. Not having certain players does have an impact on how the team plays. It happens & Saturday, it happened. No excuses, hats off to FCD-G for the great game they gave. Will it happen twice by the same team, not likely.

Soccerdad79 wrote:

frisco hooligan wrote:

accidentalelbow wrote:
FCD-G played more aggressively and won the game fairly. DTS had some opportunities and despite missing 3 starters (forward, midfielder and defender) the boys didn't capitalize. It's tough adjusting to key absences against opponents of this caliber, but most of the DTS parents felt the competition was really good. Nice work FCD.

I have really enjoyed reading all of the '02 talk this season and how seriously the parents take these games/standings. So I'm curious...

How many shots on goal did DTS manage with their starting forward and midfielder missing? I'm sure that stat would be an interesting one. Elbow - you're the keeper of that stat, correct?

Also, since they did have 3 starters out, was the bench just light by 3, or did DTS have some "guest" players?

Soccerdad79, Creeper, or any other DTS poster is welcome to jump in and respond.

No guest players for DTS. All players on the field are the same players on the original roster. Not having certain players does have an impact on how the team plays. It happens & Saturday, it happened. No excuses, hats off to FCD-G for the great game they gave. Will it happen twice by the same team, not likely.

Thanks for the response Soccerdad79. So I can assume from the response (and the result) that the players that were missing were "impact" players and therefore that stat that Elbow keeps would have been affected...

This is exactly why I don't understand why records and standings are so highly regarded in an '02 age group (try reading the '04 threads - it's gold). I am fairly certain that most of the teams that are jeered for using "guest" players are in a development mode, testing and trying to find a good fit/mix of players to make up the 16 man roster for next year - and therefore decreasing the impact of missing impact players.

While I think it's great that DTS can hold their head up and claim no guest players, what happens if 1 or 2 of those impact players leave next year - there's been no experimentation to fill that void.

On the other side of that coin, the parents of the players that are guesting are probably looking out for their kid's development (I'm sure there are some instances of pre-positioning for the top team - even if they ride the bench or back fill positions). I would imagine that as a parent, I would like my kids to have a range of experiences with a range of coaches (since I'm not aware of any coach in NTX that has fully developed a EPL or SPL player from start to finish) - each child will respond differently to different influences.

So I'm sure that all of the badgering and Top team talk is all in good fun and in good spirit, and none of it is thought to be "serious" - until Select that is... but then again, none of that really matters either as there will be another complete shift when puberty hits

until Select that is... but then again, none of that really matters either as there will be another complete shift when puberty hits [/quote]




Don't forget that when these kids hit U13 there will be another complete shake up when they have a chance to go to Pre Academy. Some of these teams will probably disinegrate completely. Will only have two years in classic league to dominate.....

[/quote]
So I'm sure that all of the badgering and Top team talk is all in good fun and in good spirit, and none of it is thought to be "serious" - until Select that is...[/quote]

What do you mean until Select? This is serious stuff now.
Practices everyday, the price of fuel these days, the time spent at different fields, the eating out expenses, new cleats every 3 months because the new cleats 3 months ago don't fit anymore. Did I mention the cost of fuel???
I'm joking if you can't tell.

but then again, none of that really matters either as there will be another complete shift when puberty hits [/quote]


Puberty hit and my son quit, but back to living vicariously through our 9 and 10 year olds....

frisco hooligan wrote:

accidentalelbow wrote:
FCD-G played more aggressively and won the game fairly. DTS had some opportunities and despite missing 3 starters (forward, midfielder and defender) the boys didn't capitalize. It's tough adjusting to key absences against opponents of this caliber, but most of the DTS parents felt the competition was really good. Nice work FCD.

I have really enjoyed reading all of the '02 talk this season and how seriously the parents take these games/standings. So I'm curious...

How many shots on goal did DTS manage with their starting forward and midfielder missing? I'm sure that stat would be an interesting one. Elbow - you're the keeper of that stat, correct?

Also, since they did have 3 starters out, was the bench just light by 3, or did DTS have some "guest" players?

Soccerdad79, Creeper, or any other DTS poster is welcome to jump in and respond.

Not sure. I haven't checked the stats (collected by someone else), but we didn't have as many shots as usual. To be clear, one of our starting forwards played defense, one was missing, we don't have guest players and we didn't play well. We played FCD-G over summer in a tournament and won 7-0 or something like that, but they have improved greatly and I'm sure they will continue to improve, as players from top teams visit them at practice. This is to be expected on all teams – I firmly believe what’s best for the player is not always what’s best for the team and vice versa, so movement is necessary. Additionally, I'm not concerned about the loss (it's good on all accounts) and honestly, I hope the match ups get closer - it forces improvement.

accidentalelbow wrote:

frisco hooligan wrote:

accidentalelbow wrote:
FCD-G played more aggressively and won the game fairly. DTS had some opportunities and despite missing 3 starters (forward, midfielder and defender) the boys didn't capitalize. It's tough adjusting to key absences against opponents of this caliber, but most of the DTS parents felt the competition was really good. Nice work FCD.

I have really enjoyed reading all of the '02 talk this season and how seriously the parents take these games/standings. So I'm curious...

How many shots on goal did DTS manage with their starting forward and midfielder missing? I'm sure that stat would be an interesting one. Elbow - you're the keeper of that stat, correct?

Also, since they did have 3 starters out, was the bench just light by 3, or did DTS have some "guest" players?

Soccerdad79, Creeper, or any other DTS poster is welcome to jump in and respond.

Not sure. I haven't checked the stats (collected by someone else), but we didn't have as many shots as usual. To be clear, one of our starting forwards played defense, one was missing, we don't have guest players and we didn't play well. We played FCD-G over summer in a tournament and won 7-0 or something like that, but they have improved greatly and I'm sure they will continue to improve, as players from top teams visit them at practice. This is to be expected on all teams – I firmly believe what’s best for the player is not always what’s best for the team and vice versa, so movement is necessary. Additionally, I'm not concerned about the loss (it's good on all accounts) and honestly, I hope the match ups get closer - it forces improvement.

Was DTS missing one of its big three players in that game? If they were missing the center forward, center mid or left mid, it would make them a different team. But, I guess you could say that about any of the top teams if they were missing their best players.

DTS, when it has those three players all there, is a few levels above everyone else. Without them, every one else has a good chance.

Gatorz wrote:

accidentalelbow wrote:

frisco hooligan wrote:

accidentalelbow wrote:
FCD-G played more aggressively and won the game fairly. DTS had some opportunities and despite missing 3 starters (forward, midfielder and defender) the boys didn't capitalize. It's tough adjusting to key absences against opponents of this caliber, but most of the DTS parents felt the competition was really good. Nice work FCD.

I have really enjoyed reading all of the '02 talk this season and how seriously the parents take these games/standings. So I'm curious...

How many shots on goal did DTS manage with their starting forward and midfielder missing? I'm sure that stat would be an interesting one. Elbow - you're the keeper of that stat, correct?

Also, since they did have 3 starters out, was the bench just light by 3, or did DTS have some "guest" players?

Soccerdad79, Creeper, or any other DTS poster is welcome to jump in and respond.

Not sure. I haven't checked the stats (collected by someone else), but we didn't have as many shots as usual. To be clear, one of our starting forwards played defense, one was missing, we don't have guest players and we didn't play well. We played FCD-G over summer in a tournament and won 7-0 or something like that, but they have improved greatly and I'm sure they will continue to improve, as players from top teams visit them at practice. This is to be expected on all teams – I firmly believe what’s best for the player is not always what’s best for the team and vice versa, so movement is necessary. Additionally, I'm not concerned about the loss (it's good on all accounts) and honestly, I hope the match ups get closer - it forces improvement.

Was DTS missing one of its big three players in that game? If they were missing the center forward, center mid or left mid, it would make them a different team. But, I guess you could say that about any of the top teams if they were missing their best players.

DTS, when it has those three players all there, is a few levels above everyone else. Without them, every one else has a good chance.

Nice point Gatorz. Yes they were missing their forward with the long hair, one of their best mids, and a starting def. It's not an excuse just a fact.

creeper wrote:

Gatorz wrote:
Was DTS missing one of its big three players in that game? If they were missing the center forward, center mid or left mid, it would make them a different team. But, I guess you could say that about any of the top teams if they were missing their best players.

DTS, when it has those three players all there, is a few levels above everyone else. Without them, every one else has a good chance.

Nice point Gatorz. Yes they were missing their forward with the long hair, one of their best mids, and a starting def. It's not an excuse just a fact.

Exactly my point from above... that is why I don't see why DTS posters (and others) are so down on teams that rotate players and have guest players (or should I say so proud of not doing the same) - those teams are preparing for the inevitable and developing the players to stand on their own instead of relying on 2 or 3 impact players that may or may not be there for the long term.

Isn't it true that once players are eligible for Select that they can then play up in age? If so, what is keeping these 2 or 3 impact players from playing up with an '01 or '00 team? It would certainly help their individual development, right? Isn't that what this is about, individual development not team dominance? So those players move on, where does that leave the rest of the team - hopefully with enough individual development to stand on their own, but most likely with a gaping hole and a push to recruit another impact player to replace them...

Thus my point about why these standings and records are taken so seriously (my top team is better than your top team attitude). Don't get me wrong, it's comical and I enjoy watching a good train wreck, I just hope that it doesn't seep from the parents into the kids and cause bigger issues than focusing on good futbol. I've seen it in some of the older teams - kids on the field with such a superiority complex that it affects their game (blaming everyone but themselves) and tarnishes what could be an incredibly talented young player.

frisco hooligan wrote:

creeper wrote:

Gatorz wrote:
Was DTS missing one of its big three players in that game? If they were missing the center forward, center mid or left mid, it would make them a different team. But, I guess you could say that about any of the top teams if they were missing their best players.

DTS, when it has those three players all there, is a few levels above everyone else. Without them, every one else has a good chance.

Nice point Gatorz. Yes they were missing their forward with the long hair, one of their best mids, and a starting def. It's not an excuse just a fact.

Exactly my point from above... that is why I don't see why DTS posters (and others) are so down on teams that rotate players and have guest players (or should I say so proud of not doing the same) - those teams are preparing for the inevitable and developing the players to stand on their own instead of relying on 2 or 3 impact players that may or may not be there for the long term.

Isn't it true that once players are eligible for Select that they can then play up in age? If so, what is keeping these 2 or 3 impact players from playing up with an '01 or '00 team? It would certainly help their individual development, right? Isn't that what this is about, individual development not team dominance? So those players move on, where does that leave the rest of the team - hopefully with enough individual development to stand on their own, but most likely with a gaping hole and a push to recruit another impact player to replace them...

Thus my point about why these standings and records are taken so seriously (my top team is better than your top team attitude). Don't get me wrong, it's comical and I enjoy watching a good train wreck, I just hope that it doesn't seep from the parents into the kids and cause bigger issues than focusing on good futbol. I've seen it in some of the older teams - kids on the field with such a superiority complex that it affects their game (blaming everyone but themselves) and tarnishes what could be an incredibly talented young player.

I agree with you and I think at this point parents should be more worried about how their kid is playing rather than if he is on a top team. Although the ranking of teams is interesting, it does the kid no good to be on a good team if he is not performing well. We should be looking at who are the exciting players in the 02 age group. Who stands out with good technical ability and the ability to beat people. The team that kid is on does not matter.

Due to the fact they do not want you to single out kids on this forum, ( a good idea) we cannot identify the players that play the best, as opposed to the team that wins games. Often time, those things are different. So, the parents post about their good teams because that is all they can do. When all that really matters is if your kid is getting better, he stands out and people notice his play.