Does Hyndman even consider playing a player who attempts to pass the ball under 40 yards?? The Long ball and directional play was redundant . They wore themselves out chasing down long passes all night long constantly trying the "home run ball". Send them to Sol Rol on sundays to Find a short game and some touch. Ugly I tell you, Kick it over the top Ugly..

Possession Hyndman POSSESSION!!!!!!

So what's new? It's been that way ever since I started paying attention to FC Dallas (pro team). Ugly is a great adjective to describe that style of soccer. Patience and possession are lost in our domestic league unfortunately and it sets a bad example for all of our local youths who are cheering on their local team. If your bb's like watching FCD, make sure they get a good dose of some international soccer on TV (or in person) to counteract the ill-effects of watching too much MLS.

forbin wrote:So what's new? It's been that way ever since I started paying attention to FC Dallas (pro team). Ugly is a great adjective to describe that style of soccer. Patience and possession are lost in our domestic league unfortunately and it sets a bad example for all of our local youths who are cheering on their local team. If your bb's like watching FCD, make sure they get a good dose of some international soccer on TV (or in person) to counteract the ill-effects of watching too much MLS.

It was funny to watch. Pass it from the rt def to the left , lft to the rt , up to the mid , back to the def and kick the livin s* out of it

plantit wrote: Does Hyndman even consider playing a player who attempts to pass the ball under 40 yards?? The Long ball and directional play was redundant . They wore themselves out chasing down long passes all night long constantly trying the "home run ball". Send them to Sol Rol on sundays to Find a short game and some touch. Ugly I tell you, Kick it over the top Ugly..

Possession Hyndman POSSESSION!!!!!!

My 11 yo boy was watching closer than I was at first and the first thing he said was how much in a rush the teams seemed to be. I started watching and he was right. No patience. Forcing the ball up whether there was a play or not, every single time. Looked a lot like what I see each week with the boys around here in games from U10-U16, just faster and bigger.

plantit wrote: Does Hyndman even consider playing a player who attempts to pass the ball under 40 yards?? The Long ball and directional play was redundant . They wore themselves out chasing down long passes all night long constantly trying the "home run ball". Send them to Sol Rol on sundays to Find a short game and some touch. Ugly I tell you, Kick it over the top Ugly..

Possession Hyndman POSSESSION!!!!!!

If the game was only that simple. That is like saying why don't the Cowboys just run the ball in the Red Zone, why don't the Ranger just make contact and try for singles and cut down on strikeouts, why don't the Mavs just drive to hoop and shoot layups or get fouled, ....

They were definetly out of sink with each other. Plenty of chances; couple nice passes into space on the attack...unfortunately space can't shoot on goal.

eagle wrote:

plantit wrote: Does Hyndman even consider playing a player who attempts to pass the ball under 40 yards?? The Long ball and directional play was redundant . They wore themselves out chasing down long passes all night long constantly trying the "home run ball". Send them to Sol Rol on sundays to Find a short game and some touch. Ugly I tell you, Kick it over the top Ugly..

Possession Hyndman POSSESSION!!!!!!

If the game was only that simple. That is like saying why don't the Cowboys just run the ball in the Red Zone, why don't the Ranger just make contact and try for singles and cut down on strikeouts, why don't the Mavs just drive to hoop and shoot layups or get fouled, ....

Really it is . Isn't that what all the coaches say " PLAY SIMPLE " .. When the cowboys won three super bowls It was Emmit left , Emmit RT, Emmit lead draw. They simply just out executed the other team and had superior technique. They just didn't throw long bombs and hail marrys. Mavs ?? same thing . Are you going to say they had more talent than Miami? No It was simple possession and execution. Fcd lacks the players with the fundementals to possess the ball.They try to volume shoot with very few quality chances .All the above mentioned teams , when they were/are at their best exercised patience. FCD showed none.

Just like the last game in September, we outshot the Red Bulls, just couldn't finish. Our middle isn't the same without Dax to link the defense with the attack.

plantit wrote:

eagle wrote:

plantit wrote: Does Hyndman even consider playing a player who attempts to pass the ball under 40 yards?? The Long ball and directional play was redundant . They wore themselves out chasing down long passes all night long constantly trying the "home run ball". Send them to Sol Rol on sundays to Find a short game and some touch. Ugly I tell you, Kick it over the top Ugly..

Possession Hyndman POSSESSION!!!!!!

If the game was only that simple. That is like saying why don't the Cowboys just run the ball in the Red Zone, why don't the Ranger just make contact and try for singles and cut down on strikeouts, why don't the Mavs just drive to hoop and shoot layups or get fouled, ....

Really it is . Isn't that what all the coaches say " PLAY SIMPLE " .. When the cowboys won three super bowls It was Emmit left , Emmit RT, Emmit lead draw. They simply just out executed the other team and had superior technique. They just didn't throw long bombs and hail marrys. Mavs ?? same thing . Are you going to say they had more talent than Miami? No It was simple possession and execution. Fcd lacks the players with the fundementals to possess the ball.They try to volume shoot with very few quality chances .All the above mentioned teams , when they were/are at their best exercised patience. FCD showed none.

True, but the Cowboys had at least 4 Hall of Famers on offense on that team, including Emmit. The Mavs have one of the highest payrolls in the NBA, and a freak of a player named Dirk, who people railed on for years for not playing conventional playoff winning basketball.

I think the fact FC Dallas lost last year's MVP Fierreira to injury eventually caught up to them. I enjoy the possession game as well, but the trick is to find the guys that can possess, but also have enough athletic ability to be dangerous and cover defensively, which seems to be a rare combination at the higher levels of soccer.

Fire the coach and get David Ferreira back into the field. The team made some roster changes to save some money and it hurt them in the long run. Break Shea is not the type of player that can carry a team on his back, the team lacks creativity up top,and the only thing the team din't change was our defense, which is a good thing. Ruben Luna got playing time this year I hope Bryan Leyva gets the same chance next year, the kid is fun to watch and he plays the type of soccer this league should be playing, which is attractive fast soccer.

Also I never really notice how big the Fc Dallas players are, they look twice as big from the ones in Mexico, Central America, and Sought America.

"Fire the coach and get David Ferreira back into the field"

did you get that great inspiration all on your own? hyndman is to be commended getting this far without his mvp. fire a coach who took you to the cup last year and playoffs this year? get a grip

The roster moves before the season cut too deep.

The new acquisitions didn't deliver.

The Feriera injury further devastated the team execution.

I can't speak for Feriera, but I saw him in the stands. He has very focused, quiet and periodically displayed subtle non-verbal frustration with the play on the field. From my perspective, he really wanted to be on the pitch.

The roster moves were likely cost reduction measures.

It's expensive to field a pro club. With the stands empty and a lack of deep pocketed sponsors the team probably had no choice but make roster changes.

anselansel wrote:"Fire the coach and get David Ferreira back into the field"

did you get that great inspiration all on your own? hyndman is to be commended getting this far without his mvp. fire a coach who took you to the cup last year and playoffs this year? get a grip

I'm not to sold on this coach for the simple reason that this team has not played attractive soccer all this year. The games are so boringgggg and the coach has nothing new to teach the players. Is always the same oh same oh every game, there's no movement with the ball in the field. Hyndman reminds me of Avery Johnson, sure he took the Mavs to the finals, but the next year the players were burned out from his concept and the league had already figure Avery out. Hyndman has been figured out from the other coaches, is time for a change.

PG-Boy wrote:It's expensive to field a pro club. With the stands empty and a lack of deep pocketed sponsors the team probably had no choice but make roster changes.

This is what bothers me. How can they not fill the stands with all of the soccer in this area? As far as the game went I didn't see it all but the mistakes on the field looked like I was watching some U-11. Terrible.

Hyndman has been figured out from the other coaches, is time for a change.

perhaps steve morrow back? this team scored the second most goals in team history. hardly figured out. they lost, it happens

PG-Boy wrote:The roster moves before the season cut too deep.

The new acquisitions didn't deliver.

The Feriera injury further devastated the team execution.

I can't speak for Feriera, but I saw him in the stands. He has very focused, quiet and periodically displayed subtle non-verbal frustration with the play on the field. From my perspective, he really wanted to be on the pitch.

The roster moves were likely cost reduction measures.

It's expensive to field a pro club. With the stands empty and a lack of deep pocketed sponsors the team probably had no choice but make roster changes.

Recently went to a mid-week CONCACAF champions game and attendance was extremely poor.

Recently went to a mid-week CONCACAF champions game and attendance was extremely poor.


frankly nobody cares, and especially on a wednesday. soccer has too many leagues that don't mean anything( at least in america)

Mid-week games = impossible to take younger kids to due to school. Can't get season tickets for the same reason, plus some conflicts with my bb's own games -- well, I guess I could buy tickets and waste the money but that doesnm't make a lot of sense to me!
So that leaves us with buying tickets to games here and there, which means that there always are other options available -- when the MLS competes with those other options, it often loses.

They need family specials that are advertised to all the soccer parents......also when games are televised they need more exciting commentating......louder crowd noise like the NFL...mike some players up...get the crowd closer to the action....

They just should not have built in Frisco. They should have put it in Arlington or somewhere closer to a larger hispanic base and more central to the whole Metroplex. Their location is great to fill the outside fields with kids from wealthier families that can afford high dollar academy and club but very poor for a pro team.

true, but then every ticket would have to be 10 bucks and you would hardly have any season ticket holders..........

The location in Frisco wasn't the best. But the financing arrangement with the city and school district made it happen.

A better location would've been in the Richardson/Plano area. Accessible via multiple approaches. Frisco really only has one (expensive toll road) travel option for most folks in the Metroplex.

The best location, in my opinion, would've been to team up with SMU to use their stadium. It's central, nice, new, and just the right size. The drawback; the football carpet. Who knows, maybe they could've done something with the field, too. What I like about the SMU location is the connection to the Dallas Tornados. It's where I grew up watching pro soccer at the old Ownby Stadium.

I just think there's not enough marketing dollars to entice people to drive to Frisco. Especially during the week. The tickets were $6 and $10 last night, yet the stadium was not full.

Even when Mexico City's Pumas were in Frisco for the CONCACAF match, it was empty. Usually the big Mexican pro clubs are good for 20-25k fans.

In summary; the expensive tollroad is a hug impediment to many people without tolltags. Yes, I know, NTTA bills by mail, but is it really understood by all the potential soccer fans from the other side of the metroplex? Also, the distance to Frisco is formidable on weekdays.

There's a HUGE latino fan base in DFW that FCD just doesn't seem to connect with. 60,000 Mexican fans will crowd into the Cotton Bowl on a Tuesday night to watch a second string national team, but hardly any of them will drive to Frisco for a playoff match involving Rafa Marquez and Thierry Henry. It would've been cool to have a sell-out crowd cheering on the FCD boys last night.

My bb practices at PHP so I'm already there 3-4x week. It's still a chore from a distance, traffic, and toll expense. I too, debated skipping the pro game last night.

Last night's negative variables were the; Rangers, cooler weather with potential rain, midweek (school night) match, and short notice. And of course, FCD hasn't been playing well the last two months.

anselansel wrote:Recently went to a mid-week CONCACAF champions game and attendance was extremely poor.


frankly nobody cares, and especially on a wednesday. soccer has too many leagues that don't mean anything( at least in america)

Sadly that is, for a lot (including the FC Dallas organization) it may not mean much.
For soccer fans like you and I, we have the ability to google the tourney name and realize the huge missed opportunity here.

mavericks67 wrote:

anselansel wrote:"Fire the coach and get David Ferreira back into the field"

did you get that great inspiration all on your own? hyndman is to be commended getting this far without his mvp. fire a coach who took you to the cup last year and playoffs this year? get a grip

I'm not to sold on this coach for the simple reason that this team has not played attractive soccer all this year. The games are so boringgggg and the coach has nothing new to teach the players. Is always the same oh same oh every game, there's no movement with the ball in the field. Hyndman reminds me of Avery Johnson, sure he took the Mavs to the finals, but the next year the players were burned out from his concept and the league had already figure Avery out. Hyndman has been figured out from the other coaches, is time for a change.

Maybe the coach has it figured out .. the players lack fundementals . so kick it long and use some size and speed.. BOOORING

eagle wrote:

plantit wrote:

eagle wrote:

plantit wrote: Does Hyndman even consider playing a player who attempts to pass the ball under 40 yards?? The Long ball and directional play was redundant . They wore themselves out chasing down long passes all night long constantly trying the "home run ball". Send them to Sol Rol on sundays to Find a short game and some touch. Ugly I tell you, Kick it over the top Ugly..

Possession Hyndman POSSESSION!!!!!!

If the game was only that simple. That is like saying why don't the Cowboys just run the ball in the Red Zone, why don't the Ranger just make contact and try for singles and cut down on strikeouts, why don't the Mavs just drive to hoop and shoot layups or get fouled, ....

Really it is . Isn't that what all the coaches say " PLAY SIMPLE " .. When the cowboys won three super bowls It was Emmit left , Emmit RT, Emmit lead draw. They simply just out executed the other team and had superior technique. They just didn't throw long bombs and hail marrys. Mavs ?? same thing . Are you going to say they had more talent than Miami? No It was simple possession and execution. Fcd lacks the players with the fundementals to possess the ball.They try to volume shoot with very few quality chances .All the above mentioned teams , when they were/are at their best exercised patience. FCD showed none.

True, but the Cowboys had at least 4 Hall of Famers on offense on that team, including Emmit. The Mavs have one of the highest payrolls in the NBA, and a freak of a player named Dirk, who people railed on for years for not playing conventional playoff winning basketball.

I think the fact FC Dallas lost last year's MVP Fierreira to injury eventually caught up to them. I enjoy the possession game as well, but the trick is to find the guys that can possess, but also have enough athletic ability to be dangerous and cover defensively, which seems to be a rare combination at the higher levels of soccer.

R U KIDDING? s* . He doesn't value possession .. It was the same way when he was at SMU. Simply put, the players lack patience ( coach included), creativity, the touch and discipline to play short and build a meaningful attack. the shots last night look like they were taken by an over zealous 12 year old .

The goals thats direction so lets fire it that way.. COMICAL