Rocketeer wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:Atlas comes from a different environment. It’s no excuse for the crowd behavior, but it is a huge variable to consider. There was a definite culture clash.

Yes a culture of dirty play, bad sportsmanship, parents yelling obscenities in front of children and having the police called over a 10 year olds soccer game....absolutely pathetic

Last time I checked the following happens in all CULTURES

Obscenities in front of children
Bad Sportsmanship
Police being called or parents being ejected from games.

Would you like to give ATLAS any kudos for making it to a final that they considered important and showed true emotion for.

Granted based on what I read (cause I was not at the game) they are SORE LOSERS.

On the CULTURE of DIRTY PLAY , obvious you have not watched MEXICAN YOUTH SOCCER and how they play in their Under 18, Under 20 (or 21) National program,

Barcelona type passing, tremendous fitness, and dribbling skills.

Also go look at GREECE when they won the EURO championship, total defense and counter attacks to win against Holland (if memory serves me right). Because when you attack , one leaves gap's in the back. I use GREECE cause maybe one of yall might think that they are not mexicans but more Caucasians.

Really tired with the folks on this board that attack CULTURES, and do not understand SOCCER.

Hell ATLAS lost , the better team won, what's the issue ?


You know Ron Washington right. Let me steal a line with modification for you.

THATS HOW SOCCER GO ?

Ochocinco wrote:

mplsnsg wrote:I am getting sucked in and hate it. I do not like calling or naming particular players on this forum. That said, the player you mention scored 1 goal in the afternoon finals, not 3 or 4. He did not play in the semi-final game against Solar red. I must admit that I forgot the show boating after the last score and certainly do not condone the behavior. I suspect the boys got tired of listening to the rants from the Atlas sidelines and having to deal with the foul play that they handled the situation like a 10 or 11 year old would do on the school yard. They are better than that behavior suggests. I will also say that Atlas had a few big boys of their own. Finally, the real final was played in the semis between Solar red and Texans 01. It was a much more competitive game, and either of those two (Solar or Texans) would have won the game against Atlas.

Why did he not play?

deankerry wrote: He did not play because he got a red card during group play on Saturday night against the Houston Texans. He cussed out a kid from the Houston Texans with the most vile words any one could have imagined. I am not sure a 10 year even knows the words he used (if you get my drift).

This kid is not 10 years old and everyone knows it. I think it is embarrassing for the Texans to even pass him off as a 10 year old. Even if he was 10 years old, wouldn't the Texans be better off playing him up with kids his same size, strength and speed "in the name of development?"

Oh I forgot, it is about rankings, winning trophies and tournaments not about "kids development"...

Ace70 wrote:

Rocketeer wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:Atlas comes from a different environment. It’s no excuse for the crowd behavior, but it is a huge variable to consider. There was a definite culture clash.

Yes a culture of dirty play, bad sportsmanship, parents yelling obscenities in front of children and having the police called over a 10 year olds soccer game....absolutely pathetic

Last time I checked the following happens in all CULTURES

Obscenities in front of children
Bad Sportsmanship
Police being called or parents being ejected from games.

Would you like to give ATLAS any kudos for making it to a final that they considered important and showed true emotion for.

Granted based on what I read (cause I was not at the game) they are SORE LOSERS.

On the CULTURE of DIRTY PLAY , obvious you have not watched MEXICAN YOUTH SOCCER and how they play in their Under 18, Under 20 (or 21) National program,

Barcelona type passing, tremendous fitness, and dribbling skills.

Also go look at GREECE when they won the EURO championship, total defense and counter attacks to win against Holland (if memory serves me right). Because when you attack , one leaves gap's in the back. I use GREECE cause maybe one of yall might think that they are not mexicans but more Caucasians.

Really tired with the folks on this board that attack CULTURES, and do not understand SOCCER.

Hell ATLAS lost , the better team won, what's the issue ?


You know Ron Washington right. Let me steal a line with modification for you.

THATS HOW SOCCER GO ?

And we get really tired of comments saying we "do not understand Soccer" and to "Become a true connoisseur of the game" because we differ in our ways of thinking. I guess understanding soccer involves being okay with cheating, dirty play and win at all costs no matter what the consequences. Of course when you you coat it with enough BS then dirty play just becomes caught up in the passion of the moment. Parents swearing in spanish are really are just expressing their thoughts on the heat of the battle.

trblmkr wrote:in all honesty my bb is pretty much the smallest one on that team so why not conclude he is 6-7 y/o playing u-11. He is not Hispanic. According to players on our team on the field at the time our player cussed, he was cursed at initially. Like I told my son the ref rarely tags the initial crime. So either don't do it or don't get caught. (not talking about cursing).

deankerry wrote: Why is everybody trying to drop race into this when I didn't even bring it up? Two feet taller than players and going through puberty at 10 years old is a little odd, wouldn't you think? I just think it is very sad that your team puts him out there like he is 10 years old. The Texans would still be good without him just not great.

deankerry wrote:

trblmkr wrote:in all honesty my bb is pretty much the smallest one on that team so why not conclude he is 6-7 y/o playing u-11. He is not Hispanic. According to players on our team on the field at the time our player cussed, he was cursed at initially. Like I told my son the ref rarely tags the initial crime. So either don't do it or don't get caught. (not talking about cursing).

Why is everybody trying to drop race into this when I didn't even bring it up? Two feet taller than players and going through puberty at 10 years old is a little odd, wouldn't you think? I just think it is very sad that your team puts him out there like he is 10 years old. The Texans would still be good without him just not great.

By the way, this kid did not say anything to him. It is the quietest kid on the team. The referee was right there and heard the whole thing.


No one said a thing about him when he was average height (at best) when he played U8, 9, 10 academy...for Solar, Andromeda, and FCD. He has been playing in NTX for a while, and numerous team managers have seen his BC. He joined this Texans team this time last year. He hits his growth spirt, puberty, whatever you want to call it...and now it's the Texans fault for playing him. Lol! If he wasn't playing for the Texans u11 team....there are 19 other D1 teams that would take him and his paperwork! In a couple years all the other boys will be the same size and bigger, and not a word will be said about his age. He should enjoy the advantage while he can!

Regarding the foul language. Completely agree, it needs to end.







Keep it classy, Dallas Texans...

trblmkr wrote:in all honesty my bb is pretty much the smallest one on that team so why not conclude he is 6-7 y/o playing u-11. He is not Hispanic. According to players on our team on the field at the time our player cussed, he was cursed at initially. Like I told my son the ref rarely tags the initial crime. So either don't do it or don't get caught. (not talking about cursing).

Rocketeer wrote:

Ace70 wrote:

Rocketeer wrote:

soccerisgood123 wrote:Atlas comes from a different environment. It’s no excuse for the crowd behavior, but it is a huge variable to consider. There was a definite culture clash.

Yes a culture of dirty play, bad sportsmanship, parents yelling obscenities in front of children and having the police called over a 10 year olds soccer game....absolutely pathetic

Last time I checked the following happens in all CULTURES

Obscenities in front of children
Bad Sportsmanship
Police being called or parents being ejected from games.

Would you like to give ATLAS any kudos for making it to a final that they considered important and showed true emotion for.

Granted based on what I read (cause I was not at the game) they are SORE LOSERS.

On the CULTURE of DIRTY PLAY , obvious you have not watched MEXICAN YOUTH SOCCER and how they play in their Under 18, Under 20 (or 21) National program,

Barcelona type passing, tremendous fitness, and dribbling skills.

Also go look at GREECE when they won the EURO championship, total defense and counter attacks to win against Holland (if memory serves me right). Because when you attack , one leaves gap's in the back. I use GREECE cause maybe one of yall might think that they are not mexicans but more Caucasians.

Really tired with the folks on this board that attack CULTURES, and do not understand SOCCER.

Hell ATLAS lost , the better team won, what's the issue ?


You know Ron Washington right. Let me steal a line with modification for you.

THATS HOW SOCCER GO ?

And we get really tired of comments saying we "do not understand Soccer" and to "Become a true connoisseur of the game" because we differ in our ways of thinking. I guess understanding soccer involves being okay with cheating, dirty play and win at all costs no matter what the consequences. Of course when you you coat it with enough BS then dirty play just becomes caught up in the passion of the moment. Parents swearing in spanish are really are just expressing their thoughts on the heat of the battle.

Let me know how you think soccer should be played? . I am also curious as to how my thinking is different than yours.

staywide wrote:
The Championship was Texans Gall v Solar Red in the semi's. What a battle. The game could have gone either way, and it was unfortunate they had to play in the semi's. The reason they played in the semi's is a mystery.

Bracket A Winner (Texans Gall) vs Wildcard (Texans Houston)
Bracket B Winner (Atlas) vs Bracket C Winnet (Solar Red)

They decided to switch teams since Texans Houston was in the same bracket as Texans Gall. Ok, I can follow that logic. But, Texans Gall had 27 points, Solar Red had 27 points, and Atlad had 20 points. Just don't understand the logic to put Texans Gall vs Solar Red in the semi's when they had the highest points. Solar Red would have crushed Atlas in the semi's, and we already know the outcome vs Texans Gall. Atlas did not deserve to play the Wildcard team and make it to the finals!

trblmkr wrote:your spin is interesting. The person who made the final decision had to be reached by cell phone and was not at FBP, and what anyone can be sure of is Texans will play whoever is next on schedule, whether its a tourney or league play. We showed up to play a team that we thought we had played the night before. Three different team mgrs were attempting to figure it out. Word came down via cell phone and we played. There was no scouting. Truth be known there was no scouting needed. The atlas team was not impressive at all at anytime in tourney. I'm positive the powers in charge had better things to do then protect any team until the finals. This scenario has happened to our team before. Btw the score in the game the night before vs the Texans team from Houston was 3-1.

moveyourfeet wrote:

PG-Boy wrote:RE: Mystery Semi-Final Switcharoo

People were talking about it, but I guess it was overshadowed by the Final game.

Do the rules allow the organizers to switch up the games? If yes, what is the criteria?

The Texans dominant player had been carded the night before in their 2-1 win, so he was out for the semi-final.

Would a rematch with the SAME team the following day, sans their star, be the cause of the switcharoo. The schedule did show Bracket A winner vs Wildcard. I'm assuming the 2-1 byline indicated the match was fairly close. I'm also assuming it could be even a closer match-up with the Texans missing THE key player on the roster.

On the other hand, since the schedulers had carte-blanche, they could've matched up Texans against Atlas in the semi-final. But at this point, Atlas was still a big risk. Atlas had already defeated FCD Premier and Texans South, two Top 5 squads. And tied a very good team from Kansas to win the group. Would the Texans risk matching up against Atlas while missing their star player?

Perhaps with the Texans tasked with facing one of three possible tough opponents they selected to schedule Solar Red.

This would give them time to scout Atlas during the semis. Of the three possible opponents, perhaps they decided that Solar would be a better match without their star play-maker. Solar Red is a known quantity to the Texans, there wouldn't be any surprises. It would be the best of the three options (in the theoretical decision making).

The schedule makers had to know there would be questions.

Conversely; Solar Red would've had a much higher success percentage by playing against Atlas or Texans (STX) to reach the Final, that's my spin. We will never know.

Don't know the situation exactly, but this is a common practice in tournaments.
When the wildcard comes out of a bracket and is faced up against a team they have
already played from the same bracket, they will switch the matchups. The semi-finals
are set on the website just to have a place holder for teams and have the field and
times assigned, but the matchups are not final. They just have it setup the way it is.
If the wildcard came out of another bracket, the matchups would have stayed the
same. No conspiracy here.

typical wrote:This might not be much of a value-add to some of you, but I just want to say that although my BB's team did not play to their potential this weekend, the tournament itself was really exciting due to the out-of-town teams. It was a good experience for our boys, myself included. I spent half the game talking to one of the Houstonian dads and he was the most genuine, kind and even-tempered persons I've ever met. The other parents were, well, just like any other parent I met from the fall Classic league (passionate, emotional, supporting). I look forward to seeing that dad (Apollo) and their team in any future tournament! I enjoy the challenge and diversity that these teams bring, and my BB and I are embracing it because we know that the exposure to other teams will gauge where we stand in the broader scope of soccer. This experience will only make us stronger!