Soccerinsanity wrote:Yea, tell us more PapaGo!

What about the bb's that don't make Academy? And are the other Academies free, too, or just FCD?

The other AL teams I believe the coaching fees are free but not the travel as it is with FCD. BB's that don't make the academy at one of the clubs still have options but it is certianly becoming more difficult. The AL is a showcase league that is watched by college coaches so the players get eyeballs. I have heard of college coaches cutting down trips and restricting more to the AL. The idea being that the AL players are more serious about their soccer and more likely to play in college than the other kids

go99 wrote:

Soccerinsanity wrote:Yea, tell us more PapaGo!

What about the bb's that don't make Academy? And are the other Academies free, too, or just FCD?

The other AL teams I believe the coaching fees are free but not the travel as it is with FCD. BB's that don't make the academy at one of the clubs still have options but it is certianly becoming more difficult. The AL is a showcase league that is watched by college coaches so the players get eyeballs. I have heard of college coaches cutting down trips and restricting more to the AL. The idea being that the AL players are more serious about their soccer and more likely to play in college than the other kids

(((((((((The other AL teams I believe the coaching fees are free but not the travel as it is with FCD))))))))))) Are you saying that FC Dallas is better than the other AL teams because their kids are more "Financially Disadvantaged". Not the coaching, the philosophy, club structure, etc.? So do you believe that the "more poor" you are the better you are as a soccer player?

I can see you have some issues with the poor and you should probably work that out. Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything of the sort or even anything close. What I am saying is that money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not. So think of it openly, even for the parents who can afford it. Why pay for something that the other club gives for free? For the parents who can't afford it, it is no longer an issue. It certianly gives you a bigger pool to chose from as a club. FCD is better because because the AL team has a better talent pool, Much better philosophy, better coaching, and actually a different set of pressures that help.

go99 wrote:I can see you have some issues with the poor and you should probably work that out. Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything of the sort or even anything close. What I am saying is that money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not. So think of it openly, even for the parents who can afford it. Why pay for something that the other club gives for free? For the parents who can't afford it, it is no longer an issue. It certianly gives you a bigger pool to chose from as a club. FCD is better because because the AL team has a better talent pool, Much better philosophy, better coaching, and actually a different set of pressures that help.

I just asked a question based on your answer. You did "suggest" that "one" of FC Dallas advantages is that the club appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". You can dress it up all you want, (money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not )( "for the parents that can't afford it , it's no longer an issue) same thing. You even made the same point twice in your response. LOL Sounds like you suggested it to me. What is the percentage of "Rich" Kids the play for FC Dallas AL teams. So your first point seems to be that FCD has a bigger talent pool "mainly" because it appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". For your other points, you just made statements without backing them with any reasoning. Could you please elaborate for us?
Lets just pick a few other AL Clubs and compare them for me.
LA Galaxy, New York, Red Bulls, DC United, Columbus Crew, and Chicago Fire.
Tell me what's better about FC Dallas's Philosophy than these clubs.
Tell me how the coaches are better at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
What set of pressure are different at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
Since you made the statement you must have already analyzed the three points that you made. Help us out so we can understand to.

AND! wrote:

go99 wrote:I can see you have some issues with the poor and you should probably work that out. Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything of the sort or even anything close. What I am saying is that money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not. So think of it openly, even for the parents who can afford it. Why pay for something that the other club gives for free? For the parents who can't afford it, it is no longer an issue. It certianly gives you a bigger pool to chose from as a club. FCD is better because because the AL team has a better talent pool, Much better philosophy, better coaching, and actually a different set of pressures that help.

I just asked a question based on your answer. You did "suggest" that "one" of FC Dallas advantages is that the club appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". You can dress it up all you want, (money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not )( "for the parents that can't afford it , it's no longer an issue) same thing. You even made the same point twice in your response. LOL Sounds like you suggested it to me. What is the percentage of "Rich" Kids the play for FC Dallas AL teams. So your first point seems to be that FCD has a bigger talent pool "mainly" because it appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". For your other points, you just made statements without backing them with any reasoning. Could you please elaborate for us?
Lets just pick a few other AL Clubs and compare them for me.
LA Galaxy, New York, Red Bulls, DC United, Columbus Crew, and Chicago Fire.
Tell me what's better about FC Dallas's Philosophy than these clubs.
Tell me how the coaches are better at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
What set of pressure are different at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
Since you made the statement you must have already analyzed the three points that you made. Help us out so we can understand to.

I'd like to hear your answers as well

omega striker wrote:

AND! wrote:

go99 wrote:I can see you have some issues with the poor and you should probably work that out. Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything of the sort or even anything close. What I am saying is that money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not. So think of it openly, even for the parents who can afford it. Why pay for something that the other club gives for free? For the parents who can't afford it, it is no longer an issue. It certianly gives you a bigger pool to chose from as a club. FCD is better because because the AL team has a better talent pool, Much better philosophy, better coaching, and actually a different set of pressures that help.

I just asked a question based on your answer. You did "suggest" that "one" of FC Dallas advantages is that the club appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". You can dress it up all you want, (money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not )( "for the parents that can't afford it , it's no longer an issue) same thing. You even made the same point twice in your response. LOL Sounds like you suggested it to me. What is the percentage of "Rich" Kids the play for FC Dallas AL teams. So your first point seems to be that FCD has a bigger talent pool "mainly" because it appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". For your other points, you just made statements without backing them with any reasoning. Could you please elaborate for us?
Lets just pick a few other AL Clubs and compare them for me.
LA Galaxy, New York, Red Bulls, DC United, Columbus Crew, and Chicago Fire.
Tell me what's better about FC Dallas's Philosophy than these clubs.
Tell me how the coaches are better at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
What set of pressure are different at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
Since you made the statement you must have already analyzed the three points that you made. Help us out so we can understand to.

I'd like to hear your answers as well

We're waiting...........
You should already have these answers right?

AND! wrote:

omega striker wrote:

AND! wrote:

go99 wrote:I can see you have some issues with the poor and you should probably work that out. Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything of the sort or even anything close. What I am saying is that money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not. So think of it openly, even for the parents who can afford it. Why pay for something that the other club gives for free? For the parents who can't afford it, it is no longer an issue. It certianly gives you a bigger pool to chose from as a club. FCD is better because because the AL team has a better talent pool, Much better philosophy, better coaching, and actually a different set of pressures that help.

I just asked a question based on your answer. You did "suggest" that "one" of FC Dallas advantages is that the club appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". You can dress it up all you want, (money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not )( "for the parents that can't afford it , it's no longer an issue) same thing. You even made the same point twice in your response. LOL Sounds like you suggested it to me. What is the percentage of "Rich" Kids the play for FC Dallas AL teams. So your first point seems to be that FCD has a bigger talent pool "mainly" because it appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". For your other points, you just made statements without backing them with any reasoning. Could you please elaborate for us?
Lets just pick a few other AL Clubs and compare them for me.
LA Galaxy, New York, Red Bulls, DC United, Columbus Crew, and Chicago Fire.
Tell me what's better about FC Dallas's Philosophy than these clubs.
Tell me how the coaches are better at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
What set of pressure are different at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
Since you made the statement you must have already analyzed the three points that you made. Help us out so we can understand to.

I'd like to hear your answers as well

We're waiting...........
You should already have these answers right?

your answering a question with a question?

omega striker wrote:

AND! wrote:

omega striker wrote:

AND! wrote:

go99 wrote:I can see you have some issues with the poor and you should probably work that out. Nowhere in my post did I suggest anything of the sort or even anything close. What I am saying is that money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not. So think of it openly, even for the parents who can afford it. Why pay for something that the other club gives for free? For the parents who can't afford it, it is no longer an issue. It certianly gives you a bigger pool to chose from as a club. FCD is better because because the AL team has a better talent pool, Much better philosophy, better coaching, and actually a different set of pressures that help.

I just asked a question based on your answer. You did "suggest" that "one" of FC Dallas advantages is that the club appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". You can dress it up all you want, (money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not )( "for the parents that can't afford it , it's no longer an issue) same thing. You even made the same point twice in your response. LOL Sounds like you suggested it to me. What is the percentage of "Rich" Kids the play for FC Dallas AL teams. So your first point seems to be that FCD has a bigger talent pool "mainly" because it appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". For your other points, you just made statements without backing them with any reasoning. Could you please elaborate for us?
Lets just pick a few other AL Clubs and compare them for me.
LA Galaxy, New York, Red Bulls, DC United, Columbus Crew, and Chicago Fire.
Tell me what's better about FC Dallas's Philosophy than these clubs.
Tell me how the coaches are better at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
What set of pressure are different at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
Since you made the statement you must have already analyzed the three points that you made. Help us out so we can understand to.

I'd like to hear your answers as well

We're waiting...........
You should already have these answers right?

your answering a question with a question?

THAT WAS AT GO99. SORRY. COME ON GO99 WHERE ARE YOU??

AND! where are your answers to the post? Still wating on those...

finish1 wrote:AND! where are your answers to the post? Still wating on those...

I'm going to wait for go99 to answer.LOL

I don't dress things up or hide them. Right or wrong I state them in black and white. Fabiano and some others my have suggested it and you have attatched it to me also but the inference is just not there. An accepted fact in US soccer has been that one of the limiting factors is that money excluded many from participation. Let's say 30% of the population is unable to pay. If I find a way to cover the cost, my pool becomes 30% bigger. It has nothing to do with poor kids being better. It is simply a matter of more numbers having access. The greater the size of your talent pool to chose from the better potential of your final product.

For the record, I am on the side of natural talent. Being hispanic does not make you good, neither does being poor. But Also being able to afford endless skill sessions and special trainings doesn't either.

now as far as the other things are concerned, I was actually comparing FCD to the other local AL teams not the other MLS teams. Since this is a Texas forum. However you are correct, I have a basic grasp of the differences between the MLS clubs and fcd is also in the top group there.

Finally as high as FCD is on that list they have just taken baby steps in the right direction and are still a long way from producing worldclass marketable talent on a regular basis.

I just asked a question based on your answer. You did "suggest" that "one" of FC Dallas advantages is that the club appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". You can dress it up all you want, (money no longer becomes the deciding factor in if a kid can participate or not )( "for the parents that can't afford it , it's no longer an issue) same thing. You even made the same point twice in your response. LOL Sounds like you suggested it to me. What is the percentage of "Rich" Kids the play for FC Dallas AL teams. So your first point seems to be that FCD has a bigger talent pool "mainly" because it appeals to the "Financially Disadvantaged". For your other points, you just made statements without backing them with any reasoning. Could you please elaborate for us?
Lets just pick a few other AL Clubs and compare them for me.
LA Galaxy, New York, Red Bulls, DC United, Columbus Crew, and Chicago Fire.
Tell me what's better about FC Dallas's Philosophy than these clubs.
Tell me how the coaches are better at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
What set of pressure are different at FC Dallas than at these clubs.
Since you made the statement you must have already analyzed the three points that you made. Help us out so we can understand to.

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I looked thru my post and I didn't see that suggestion anywhere. Believe me, I am an a$%hole that is quite capable of posting controversial statements to the far right or left of any topic. There is no need to read more into my statment.

All this and we're right back to 30%, or what I suggested: sheer numbers!

okay I missunderstood your sheer numbers. It's not the increase in the number of teams that put them that high. The talent pool that FCD pulls from has increased significantly and includes several players outside of the typical NTX area.

I'm just giving y'all a hard time---no soccer and boredom at work

Soccerinsanity wrote:I'm just giving y'all a hard time---no soccer and boredom at work

I hear ya there this must what it feels like to be a PA parent?

omega striker wrote:

Soccerinsanity wrote:I'm just giving y'all a hard time---no soccer and boredom at work

I hear ya there this must what it feels like to be a PA parent?

Touche!

LMAO nice

So do the PA teams do any tourneys or do they just practice for those 8 games?

Solar and Texans just went to Disney.

FCD does several friendlies with other MLS PA clubs and Tigres boys from Monterrey.