Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

i agree bitching and moaning because they wouldn't play your style of play is silly. they did what they could to win. if you are a good team you find ways to win..........

soccerhaters wrote:I could not as tend the first game between DTS and FCD but as soon as a heard they we meeting again I knew I could not miss that. I'm told DTS played real good as usual but FCD boys showed heart and hung in there with a 2-1 loss against the #1 team in north Texas. Well the final was just amazing for those that did not have the opportunity to witness this team. Well as crazy as this sounds, FCD was up 1-0 against DTS. Say what???? For most the game. DTS tied it on the second half with 10 minutes to go abd I got to tell you, it was unreal to see that because the DTS boys are really good. The natch ended 1-1. Wow!!!! The went extra time and if course they won it but I have to admit they had help from the refs. A ref should not allow a final come down to a shot at the goal from any stopping point. Let them decide that on the field playing. No one can contains a real good team like DTS because they will eventually come out but I can almost bet that not only the coach from DTS looked somewhat nervous but there for a while the patents from DTS we mute for a while in disbelief. Well that was some great soccer. Indeed the south is getting really good. FCD will be a team that a lot if teams will hate to play against. Those boys have heart and I'm sure they are going to get better. Look at their record, I believe they started back in July from last year. Wow, what an accomplishment. DTS will always be good but let's see what other teams come up soon. Great tournament.......

Okay now Soccerhaters you're starting to sound like TFC when making excuses for losing (Sorry TFC but it's the truth). So are the refs supposed to stop calling fouls cause the the score was tied? That is ridiculous. If you don't want fouls being called then the kids should stop fouling and play defense. The goal made from the free kick from outside the box was not a gimme goal. It was a beautiful shot that requires skill. Who was nervous? I didn't see anyone biting their nails. This team has been in games like this before. Bigger games you can say. The experience is there and maybe not for the other team.

Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

creeper wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

No I think you are totally missing my point. I am not asking us to excuse ugly soccer. That's why I hate e-mail and texts they can be totally taken out of context. I also understand that they are not 6 years olds ( I think my quote was that they are 10) Not every kid develops the understanding of the game at the same pace. Some that are super stars at 10 won't make their club team at 15 or 16. What I am saying is we don't always have to look at the negatives in a match and sometimes even in an ugly game there are moments of diamonds. DTS is fundementally more sound then almost every team out there. ( I have my opinions on the most sound team but I am not in the mood for getting screamed at by all the DTS parents but you probably know whom I am thinking of) FCD has just arrived at the show and showed signs of learning. There are about 100 teams in NTX 02 soccer lets say they have and average of 13 to 14 so that's 1,300 kids. There are spots for 22 kids on the national team. Not everyone playing select soccer will make the national team in our 02 group. We will be lucky to find 1. So should the other 1,299 not continue to play the game because they don't understand the concept of posession, or they can't make a diagnoal run to save there life, or that they don't recognize when pressure is coming toward them to releive the pressure. Me I say no because hopefully if we as coaches do our job the kick and chase will start to reduce, posession will become the norm, and the game will start to be played the way in needs to be played to get more Texans on the national team.

We also have to learn to be a little more patient with the process. Yes we all want to win but can that occur without true development. Okay I better get off this board because I know someone is going to call me out. Have a great week and try to be kind to one another.

Marvelousmar wrote:

creeper wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

No I think you are totally missing my point. I am not asking us to excuse ugly soccer. That's why I hate e-mail and texts they can be totally taken out of context. I also understand that they are not 6 years olds ( I think my quote was that they are 10) Not every kid develops the understanding of the game at the same pace. Some that are super stars at 10 won't make their club team at 15 or 16. What I am saying is we don't always have to look at the negatives in a match and sometimes even in an ugly game there are moments of diamonds. DTS is fundementally more sound then almost every team out there. ( I have my opinions on the most sound team but I am not in the mood for getting screamed at by all the DTS parents but you probably know whom I am thinking of) FCD has just arrived at the show and showed signs of learning. There are about 100 teams in NTX 02 soccer lets say they have and average of 13 to 14 so that's 1,300 kids. There are spots for 22 kids on the national team. Not everyone playing select soccer will make the national team in our 02 group. We will be lucky to find 1. So should the other 1,299 not continue to play the game because they don't understand the concept of posession, or they can't make a diagnoal run to save there life, or that they don't recognize when pressure is coming toward them to releive the pressure. Me I say no because hopefully if we as coaches do our job the kick and chase will start to reduce, posession will become the norm, and the game will start to be played the way in needs to be played to get more Texans on the national team.

That is the problem right there. From what I am reading here the coach decided to pack it in and play rough in order to try to steal a win over a better team. Winning over development again.

my2cents wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:

creeper wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

No I think you are totally missing my point. I am not asking us to excuse ugly soccer. That's why I hate e-mail and texts they can be totally taken out of context. I also understand that they are not 6 years olds ( I think my quote was that they are 10) Not every kid develops the understanding of the game at the same pace. Some that are super stars at 10 won't make their club team at 15 or 16. What I am saying is we don't always have to look at the negatives in a match and sometimes even in an ugly game there are moments of diamonds. DTS is fundementally more sound then almost every team out there. ( I have my opinions on the most sound team but I am not in the mood for getting screamed at by all the DTS parents but you probably know whom I am thinking of) FCD has just arrived at the show and showed signs of learning. There are about 100 teams in NTX 02 soccer lets say they have and average of 13 to 14 so that's 1,300 kids. There are spots for 22 kids on the national team. Not everyone playing select soccer will make the national team in our 02 group. We will be lucky to find 1. So should the other 1,299 not continue to play the game because they don't understand the concept of posession, or they can't make a diagnoal run to save there life, or that they don't recognize when pressure is coming toward them to releive the pressure. Me I say no because hopefully if we as coaches do our job the kick and chase will start to reduce, posession will become the norm, and the game will start to be played the way in needs to be played to get more Texans on the national team.

That is the problem right there. From what I am reading here the coach decided to pack it in and play rough in order to try to steal a win over a better team. Winning over development again.

Thats the problem with soccer in the US, win at all cost and not teaching the little ones how to play. At the end of the day win or lose life goes on (this is not the world cup) or like the great Labron James once said I’ll go on with my life and you’ll go on with your miserable life.

BAFANA BAFANA wrote:

my2cents wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:

creeper wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

No I think you are totally missing my point. I am not asking us to excuse ugly soccer. That's why I hate e-mail and texts they can be totally taken out of context. I also understand that they are not 6 years olds ( I think my quote was that they are 10) Not every kid develops the understanding of the game at the same pace. Some that are super stars at 10 won't make their club team at 15 or 16. What I am saying is we don't always have to look at the negatives in a match and sometimes even in an ugly game there are moments of diamonds. DTS is fundementally more sound then almost every team out there. ( I have my opinions on the most sound team but I am not in the mood for getting screamed at by all the DTS parents but you probably know whom I am thinking of) FCD has just arrived at the show and showed signs of learning. There are about 100 teams in NTX 02 soccer lets say they have and average of 13 to 14 so that's 1,300 kids. There are spots for 22 kids on the national team. Not everyone playing select soccer will make the national team in our 02 group. We will be lucky to find 1. So should the other 1,299 not continue to play the game because they don't understand the concept of posession, or they can't make a diagnoal run to save there life, or that they don't recognize when pressure is coming toward them to releive the pressure. Me I say no because hopefully if we as coaches do our job the kick and chase will start to reduce, posession will become the norm, and the game will start to be played the way in needs to be played to get more Texans on the national team.

That is the problem right there. From what I am reading here the coach decided to pack it in and play rough in order to try to steal a win over a better team. Winning over development again.

Thats the problem with soccer in the US, win at all cost and not teaching the little ones how to play. At the end of the day win or lose life goes on (this is not the world cup) or like the great Labron James once said I’ll go on with my life and you’ll go on with your miserable life.

Now I can laugh. That Labron quote just made my day. Oh it's North Texas and winning is allways more important then development. It takes too long for development we live in a microwave, internet society. We want what we want now. Press the button and there it is. I am all for development too me the joy is seeing a kid who doesn't get it finally get it. Taking a a team of rec players that most clubs wouldn't want anything to do with and watching them grow into a team that can make a final at a tournament. Watching what they have learned in practice finally come to light. But maybe I live in a strange far away place I still think that most people who coach want the same thing but the pressure to win now, sometimes causes coaches to loose their way. Hopefully North Texas can solve that but soccer here needs the help of their parents. This is a difficult game though simple when you watch. It takes work to reach and a lot of it. But nothing good comes without work, and when its achieved ahh now that's the magic. Anyway again I got sucked back into this forum. To speak my mind. Yes I have opinons on everything. Don't get me started on Politics. But today I plan to keep it on the topic of development. A word that has its origins from a word that means unfold. So let's see how all of this unfolds.

Marvelousmar wrote:

BAFANA BAFANA wrote:

my2cents wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:

creeper wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

No I think you are totally missing my point. I am not asking us to excuse ugly soccer. That's why I hate e-mail and texts they can be totally taken out of context. I also understand that they are not 6 years olds ( I think my quote was that they are 10) Not every kid develops the understanding of the game at the same pace. Some that are super stars at 10 won't make their club team at 15 or 16. What I am saying is we don't always have to look at the negatives in a match and sometimes even in an ugly game there are moments of diamonds. DTS is fundementally more sound then almost every team out there. ( I have my opinions on the most sound team but I am not in the mood for getting screamed at by all the DTS parents but you probably know whom I am thinking of) FCD has just arrived at the show and showed signs of learning. There are about 100 teams in NTX 02 soccer lets say they have and average of 13 to 14 so that's 1,300 kids. There are spots for 22 kids on the national team. Not everyone playing select soccer will make the national team in our 02 group. We will be lucky to find 1. So should the other 1,299 not continue to play the game because they don't understand the concept of posession, or they can't make a diagnoal run to save there life, or that they don't recognize when pressure is coming toward them to releive the pressure. Me I say no because hopefully if we as coaches do our job the kick and chase will start to reduce, posession will become the norm, and the game will start to be played the way in needs to be played to get more Texans on the national team.

That is the problem right there. From what I am reading here the coach decided to pack it in and play rough in order to try to steal a win over a better team. Winning over development again.

Thats the problem with soccer in the US, win at all cost and not teaching the little ones how to play. At the end of the day win or lose life goes on (this is not the world cup) or like the great Labron James once said I’ll go on with my life and you’ll go on with your miserable life.

Now I can laugh. That Labron quote just made my day. Oh it's North Texas and winning is allways more important then development. It takes too long for development we live in a microwave, internet society. We want what we want now. Press the button and there it is. I am all for development too me the joy is seeing a kid who doesn't get it finally get it. Taking a a team of rec players that most clubs wouldn't want anything to do with and watching them grow into a team that can make a final at a tournament. Watching what they have learned in practice finally come to light. But maybe I live in a strange far away place I still think that most people who coach want the same thing but the pressure to win now, sometimes causes coaches to loose their way. Hopefully North Texas can solve that but soccer here needs the help of their parents. This is a difficult game though simple when you watch. It takes work to reach and a lot of it. But nothing good comes without work, and when its achieved ahh now that's the magic. Anyway again I got sucked back into this forum. To speak my mind. Yes I have opinons on everything. Don't get me started on Politics. But today I plan to keep it on the topic of development. A word that has its origins from a word that means unfold. So let's see how all of this unfolds.

I agree we as parents need to change this win at all cost environment and let the bb have fun and play.

BAFANA BAFANA wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:

BAFANA BAFANA wrote:

my2cents wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:

creeper wrote:

Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

No I think you are totally missing my point. I am not asking us to excuse ugly soccer. That's why I hate e-mail and texts they can be totally taken out of context. I also understand that they are not 6 years olds ( I think my quote was that they are 10) Not every kid develops the understanding of the game at the same pace. Some that are super stars at 10 won't make their club team at 15 or 16. What I am saying is we don't always have to look at the negatives in a match and sometimes even in an ugly game there are moments of diamonds. DTS is fundementally more sound then almost every team out there. ( I have my opinions on the most sound team but I am not in the mood for getting screamed at by all the DTS parents but you probably know whom I am thinking of) FCD has just arrived at the show and showed signs of learning. There are about 100 teams in NTX 02 soccer lets say they have and average of 13 to 14 so that's 1,300 kids. There are spots for 22 kids on the national team. Not everyone playing select soccer will make the national team in our 02 group. We will be lucky to find 1. So should the other 1,299 not continue to play the game because they don't understand the concept of posession, or they can't make a diagnoal run to save there life, or that they don't recognize when pressure is coming toward them to releive the pressure. Me I say no because hopefully if we as coaches do our job the kick and chase will start to reduce, posession will become the norm, and the game will start to be played the way in needs to be played to get more Texans on the national team.

That is the problem right there. From what I am reading here the coach decided to pack it in and play rough in order to try to steal a win over a better team. Winning over development again.

Thats the problem with soccer in the US, win at all cost and not teaching the little ones how to play. At the end of the day win or lose life goes on (this is not the world cup) or like the great Labron James once said I’ll go on with my life and you’ll go on with your miserable life.

Now I can laugh. That Labron quote just made my day. Oh it's North Texas and winning is allways more important then development. It takes too long for development we live in a microwave, internet society. We want what we want now. Press the button and there it is. I am all for development too me the joy is seeing a kid who doesn't get it finally get it. Taking a a team of rec players that most clubs wouldn't want anything to do with and watching them grow into a team that can make a final at a tournament. Watching what they have learned in practice finally come to light. But maybe I live in a strange far away place I still think that most people who coach want the same thing but the pressure to win now, sometimes causes coaches to loose their way. Hopefully North Texas can solve that but soccer here needs the help of their parents. This is a difficult game though simple when you watch. It takes work to reach and a lot of it. But nothing good comes without work, and when its achieved ahh now that's the magic. Anyway again I got sucked back into this forum. To speak my mind. Yes I have opinons on everything. Don't get me started on Politics. But today I plan to keep it on the topic of development. A word that has its origins from a word that means unfold. So let's see how all of this unfolds.

I agree we as parents need to change this win at all cost environment and let the bb have fun and play.

I would like to give credit where credit is due and the boys on both sides played their hearts out. I think FCD presented a great challenge to DTS. I would agree with the accuracy of the assessments of those that watched the game. DTS possessed the ball and controlled the game, but needed to patiently work the ball around to spread out the defense. FCD's keeper saved the day several times. So, if the box is packed, then draw the defenders out and when the openings are their PLACE the ball into the net! Don't fault FCD's kids, they offered a competitive round of soccer - the biggest issue is that yellow cards on the field are a direct reflection of the red cards parents on both teams deserved off the field...development begins before you step onto the pitch and if you cannot control your behavior during trophy ceremonies or in the parking lot, playing good soccer is the least of everyone's concern. This is the kid’s game - work on controlling yourselves, so the kids only have to work on developing their game!!!

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Marvelousmar wrote:Considering the changes associated with the weather playing havoc with schedule and venue, I have to give props to the organizers for doing the best they could. I find it interesting that when I new team comes to the party (the top 10) a lot of teams are quick to dismiss them and find reasons why they won. We all know that DTS currently is the number one team in the area, however, the gap is starting to shrink and that's the beauty of this game to see the boys work hard and have the chance to compete against the best. I for one will give Kudos to FCD for their effort against that team. If you know your overmatched and your trying to prove a point that you can hang with them why would you play a style that would play into DTS's style of game. You might have to ugly it up a bit, in American football they call it good coaching to find a way to win, in the real football we call it Kickball, packing it in an ugly. The last world cup Spain was the superior team and the Dutch new it and they uglied it up big time. Barcelona, I mean Spain found a way to dig and grit out a win as did DTS. Not that I am comparing DTS to Spain but you do what you have to do depending on what you are trying to get accomplished. That's life folks and rather then complain and complain about the new kid on the block. Talk to the kid find out what the kid is about and play the beautiful game. It still is beautfiul folks though it may not be the way we want it to be played at times but if my math is correct they are mostly less then 10 year old boys and boys make mistakes. ( That's a side note that I keep telling myself) So we live and we learn. It's great to debate but let's just be civil about it. Have a good one. DTS yes tou out played them from the little of the OT that I got to see. But let's be frank FCD got them to OT so they had to have done something right.

Yes DTS did find a way to win. I am a bit confused here. So at first everyone in North Texas is complaining that we don't teach our kids to play soccer and that's why more of our players aren't on the national team or playing in other countries but now we are excusing playing ugly soccer because they are not on DTS skill level, so yeah go ahead and play ugly soccer. I know these kids are young but you have to start early.They're not 6 year olds. They are understanding the game well now.

No I think you are totally missing my point. I am not asking us to excuse ugly soccer. That's why I hate e-mail and texts they can be totally taken out of context. I also understand that they are not 6 years olds ( I think my quote was that they are 10) Not every kid develops the understanding of the game at the same pace. Some that are super stars at 10 won't make their club team at 15 or 16. What I am saying is we don't always have to look at the negatives in a match and sometimes even in an ugly game there are moments of diamonds. DTS is fundementally more sound then almost every team out there. ( I have my opinions on the most sound team but I am not in the mood for getting screamed at by all the DTS parents but you probably know whom I am thinking of) FCD has just arrived at the show and showed signs of learning. There are about 100 teams in NTX 02 soccer lets say they have and average of 13 to 14 so that's 1,300 kids. There are spots for 22 kids on the national team. Not everyone playing select soccer will make the national team in our 02 group. We will be lucky to find 1. So should the other 1,299 not continue to play the game because they don't understand the concept of posession, or they can't make a diagnoal run to save there life, or that they don't recognize when pressure is coming toward them to releive the pressure. Me I say no because hopefully if we as coaches do our job the kick and chase will start to reduce, posession will become the norm, and the game will start to be played the way in needs to be played to get more Texans on the national team.

That is the problem right there. From what I am reading here the coach decided to pack it in and play rough in order to try to steal a win over a better team. Winning over development again.

Thats the problem with soccer in the US, win at all cost and not teaching the little ones how to play. At the end of the day win or lose life goes on (this is not the world cup) or like the great Labron James once said I’ll go on with my life and you’ll go on with your miserable life.

Now I can laugh. That Labron quote just made my day. Oh it's North Texas and winning is allways more important then development. It takes too long for development we live in a microwave, internet society. We want what we want now. Press the button and there it is. I am all for development too me the joy is seeing a kid who doesn't get it finally get it. Taking a a team of rec players that most clubs wouldn't want anything to do with and watching them grow into a team that can make a final at a tournament. Watching what they have learned in practice finally come to light. But maybe I live in a strange far away place I still think that most people who coach want the same thing but the pressure to win now, sometimes causes coaches to loose their way. Hopefully North Texas can solve that but soccer here needs the help of their parents. This is a difficult game though simple when you watch. It takes work to reach and a lot of it. But nothing good comes without work, and when its achieved ahh now that's the magic. Anyway again I got sucked back into this forum. To speak my mind. Yes I have opinons on everything. Don't get me started on Politics. But today I plan to keep it on the topic of development. A word that has its origins from a word that means unfold. So let's see how all of this unfolds.

I agree we as parents need to change this win at all cost environment and let the bb have fun and play.

I would like to give credit where credit is due and the boys on both sides played their hearts out. I think FCD presented a great challenge to DTS. I would agree with the accuracy of the assessments of those that watched the game. DTS possessed the ball and controlled the game, but needed to patiently work the ball around to spread out the defense. FCD's keeper saved the day several times. So, if the box is packed, then draw the defenders out and when the openings are their PLACE the ball into the net! Don't fault FCD's kids, they offered a competitive round of soccer - the biggest issue is that yellow cards on the field are a direct reflection of the red cards parents on both teams deserved off the field...development begins before you step onto the pitch and if you cannot control your behavior during trophy ceremonies or in the parking lot, playing good soccer is the least of everyone's concern. This is the kid’s game - work on controlling yourselves, so the kids only have to work on developing their game!!!

One last comment, as I realize there are a lot of discussions on the boards about winning v. player development. Great post elsewhere that deals with some of this: http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/7468594/prominent-us-coaches-discuss-problems-american-soccer-leander-schaerlaeckens
The point I would like to make is good/bad or indifferent, if you earn the "title" of #1 team on whoever's top list or you are the tournament champs or you win your league...then act like a true champion and keep it classy. There will always be resentful individuals, but think of how much further it goes when the team people what to be like is yours or the player they want to emulate is your bb or the coach they respect is the one your bb's been fortunate enough to play for rather than being the person, parent, coach or team they despise. Inspire; don't incite and maybe more people will want to play this wonderful game.

All of you guys are a bunch of idiots!!!I was able to watch the Fcd & Dts game after my'01 finish his game.The two teams played awesome.I know a lot of people would pay money to watch this game again.I'm not sure if you guys know there are different styles of games out there.Dts accept it they match up well against you.Fcd shut up we all saw the game, stop trying to tell us your a good team.Time will tell.TFC parents shut up,you whine to damn much.You have great kids.Give them a hug.I did see both team parents praying for a win.Yes I saw it from both sides.Don't say you didn't.

The refs called it horrible both ways.But guys they're human.If you can do better,Get your azz up there.If not shut the fck up!!!Please support your kids win or lose.This are the fun times enjoy them.Be happy.I feel bad for the ones that are miserable.I will pray for you.My son,'02 is having a great time.We don't play for Dts,Fcd, or Tfc & i'm loving it.So long Idiots!!!Go back to your miserable lives.Yes you!!!Who is the idiot that's going to reply???

soccer'02dad wrote:All of you guys are a bunch of idiots!!!I was able to watch the Fcd & Dts game after my'01 finish his game.The two teams played awesome.I know a lot of people would pay money to watch this game again.I'm not sure if you guys know there are different styles of games out there.Dts accept it they match up well against you.Fcd shut up we all saw the game, stop trying to tell us your a good team.Time will tell.TFC parents shut up,you whine to damn much.You have great kids.Give them a hug.I did see both team parents praying for a win.Yes I saw it from both sides.Don't say you didn't.

The refs called it horrible both ways.But guys they're human.If you can do better,Get your azz up there.If not shut the fck up!!!Please support your kids win or lose.This are the fun times enjoy them.Be happy.I feel bad for the ones that are miserable.I will pray for you.My son,'02 is having a great time.We don't play for Dts,Fcd, or Tfc & i'm loving it.So long Idiots!!!Go back to your miserable lives.Yes you!!!Who is the idiot that's going to reply???

Once again - classy!

anyone think we will play this weekend? rain in forecast for Friday...