clueless wrote:Did I read that correctly? Texans will have two going to DCup and Solar is out due to Texans taking over the sponsorship of the tournament from the Longhorns.
If Texans teams are 6th and 7th in D1, they will go to DCup regardless - pretty good recruiting fodder.

Tequilapark wrote:

clueless wrote:Did I read that correctly? Texans will have two going to DCup and Solar is out due to Texans taking over the sponsorship of the tournament from the Longhorns.
If Texans teams are 6th and 7th in D1, they will go to DCup regardless - pretty good recruiting fodder.

Yes, you are correct. I think this is bull, Solar wins 4th place and they dont go because of sponsorship, basically, the Texans, specifically Hassan's team, go because the club buy's them a spot in the tournament.
were did you read this
Solar is the first alternative team, FCDB is the second, both those teams are higher in the Classic Legaue standings than Texans Red.

True10 wrote:Punka** Dallas Texans. They could not win a spot so they buy a spot. DTRS, FCD, Andro Red and Solar go out and win spots but Solar gets screwed because DTR/Hassan who get sent packing but have the sponsorship(money) to get themselves an underserved spot. Like them or hate them, Dallas Texans have had a history winning. They would go out beat teams on the field but this is just a blatant change of rules to benefit the club. Dallas Cup organizers should a shame to let this happen. I wonder if anybody had the guts to tell the Solar players to their faces that they are not going to get to participate in the Dallas Cup because your spot has been bought by a team 2 places below your own. I cannot imagine how those kids feel after playing so hard in the fall and thinking they qualified and get the news that your not in. I guess it is not about the kids after all. I am truly disgusted.

Tequilapark wrote:

True10 wrote:Punka** Dallas Texans. They could not win a spot so they buy a spot. DTRS, FCD, Andro Red and Solar go out and win spots but Solar gets screwed because DTR/Hassan who get sent packing but have the sponsorship(money) to get themselves an underserved spot. Like them or hate them, Dallas Texans have had a history winning. They would go out beat teams on the field but this is just a blatant change of rules to benefit the club. Dallas Cup organizers should a shame to let this happen. I wonder if anybody had the guts to tell the Solar players to their faces that they are not going to get to participate in the Dallas Cup because your spot has been bought by a team 2 places below your own. I cannot imagine how those kids feel after playing so hard in the fall and thinking they qualified and get the news that your not in. I guess it is not about the kids after all. I am truly disgusted.

True, think you are upset now? wait to see if Solar does get invited because a spot opens up and then its the 1st, 2nd, 3rd 4th and 6th place teams going, and Blue stays home.

This is crap, especially when these kids have been waiting for the opporutnity to play in Dallas Cup for several years.

I wonder if this is also affecting other age groups.

Tequilapark wrote:

True10 wrote:Punka** Dallas Texans. They could not win a spot so they buy a spot. DTRS, FCD, Andro Red and Solar go out and win spots but Solar gets screwed because DTR/Hassan who get sent packing but have the sponsorship(money) to get themselves an underserved spot. Like them or hate them, Dallas Texans have had a history winning. They would go out beat teams on the field but this is just a blatant change of rules to benefit the club. Dallas Cup organizers should a shame to let this happen. I wonder if anybody had the guts to tell the Solar players to their faces that they are not going to get to participate in the Dallas Cup because your spot has been bought by a team 2 places below your own. I cannot imagine how those kids feel after playing so hard in the fall and thinking they qualified and get the news that your not in. I guess it is not about the kids after all. I am truly disgusted.

True, think you are upset now? wait to see if Solar does get invited because a spot opens up and then its the 1st, 2nd, 3rd 4th and 6th place teams going, and Blue stays home.

This is crap, especially when these kids have been waiting for the opporutnity to play in Dallas Cup for several years.

I wonder if this is also affecting other age groups.

• Four go to USSF Academy Teams
  
• One to 1st Place CL team (DTxnRed)
  
• One to host club team (5th place DTxnRedWest)
  

True10 wrote:Punka** Dallas Texans. They could not win a spot so they buy a spot. DTRS, FCD, Andro Red and Solar go out and win spots but Solar gets screwed because DTR/Hassan who get sent packing but have the sponsorship(money) to get themselves an underserved spot. Like them or hate them, Dallas Texans have had a history winning. They would go out beat teams on the field but this is just a blatant change of rules to benefit the club. Dallas Cup organizers should a shame to let this happen. I wonder if anybody had the guts to tell the Solar players to their faces that they are not going to get to participate in the Dallas Cup because your spot has been bought by a team 2 places below your own. I cannot imagine how those kids feel after playing so hard in the fall and thinking they qualified and get the news that your not in. I guess it is not about the kids after all. I am truly disgusted.

go99 wrote:I feel bad for the boys, but I am adding this to my stack of things to hold against HN, texans, and the N texas soccer mafia

crabman wrote:Where does it say that Texans is the host club?

rantnrave wrote:

go99 wrote:I feel bad for the boys, but I am adding this to my stack of things to hold against HN, texans, and the N texas soccer mafia

go99,
Please do not take this the wrong way. But, for once, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS!

True10 wrote:

Tequilapark wrote:

True10 wrote:Punka** Dallas Texans. They could not win a spot so they buy a spot. DTRS, FCD, Andro Red and Solar go out and win spots but Solar gets screwed because DTR/Hassan who get sent packing but have the sponsorship(money) to get themselves an underserved spot. Like them or hate them, Dallas Texans have had a history winning. They would go out beat teams on the field but this is just a blatant change of rules to benefit the club. Dallas Cup organizers should a shame to let this happen. I wonder if anybody had the guts to tell the Solar players to their faces that they are not going to get to participate in the Dallas Cup because your spot has been bought by a team 2 places below your own. I cannot imagine how those kids feel after playing so hard in the fall and thinking they qualified and get the news that your not in. I guess it is not about the kids after all. I am truly disgusted.

True, think you are upset now? wait to see if Solar does get invited because a spot opens up and then its the 1st, 2nd, 3rd 4th and 6th place teams going, and Blue stays home.

This is crap, especially when these kids have been waiting for the opporutnity to play in Dallas Cup for several years.

I wonder if this is also affecting other age groups.

It looks like Solar got screwed in the 96 age group also. They finished 3rd but the Texans hold spots 4 and 7 so those teams would go. The 7th place team only won 1 game. I am a big 96 DTRS fan but Solar is a much better team and has 6 more wins against the same compition. I thought the 97 thing was bad but this is a travesty of the selection process. These are the only two age groups affected.

sillymom wrote:

True10 wrote:

Tequilapark wrote:

True10 wrote:Punka** Dallas Texans. They could not win a spot so they buy a spot. DTRS, FCD, Andro Red and Solar go out and win spots but Solar gets screwed because DTR/Hassan who get sent packing but have the sponsorship(money) to get themselves an underserved spot. Like them or hate them, Dallas Texans have had a history winning. They would go out beat teams on the field but this is just a blatant change of rules to benefit the club. Dallas Cup organizers should a shame to let this happen. I wonder if anybody had the guts to tell the Solar players to their faces that they are not going to get to participate in the Dallas Cup because your spot has been bought by a team 2 places below your own. I cannot imagine how those kids feel after playing so hard in the fall and thinking they qualified and get the news that your not in. I guess it is not about the kids after all. I am truly disgusted.

True, think you are upset now? wait to see if Solar does get invited because a spot opens up and then its the 1st, 2nd, 3rd 4th and 6th place teams going, and Blue stays home.

This is crap, especially when these kids have been waiting for the opporutnity to play in Dallas Cup for several years.

I wonder if this is also affecting other age groups.

It looks like Solar got screwed in the 96 age group also. They finished 3rd but the Texans hold spots 4 and 7 so those teams would go. The 7th place team only won 1 game. I am a big 96 DTRS fan but Solar is a much better team and has 6 more wins against the same compition. I thought the 97 thing was bad but this is a travesty of the selection process. These are the only two age groups affected.

How does a 7th place team take the place of a 3rd place team. The 4th place team is a Texans Red team. How would the 7th place team jump over the 4th place team and take the place of the 3rd place team. How is this right

Manbearpig wrote:

Onetime wrote:The kids are upset, they worked hard in winning their last 2 games to qualify, but unfortunately this is the new system we have to live with concerning Dallas Cup. As I told my son, use this as motivation as you continue to develop as a soccer player. One thing I ask, please don't hold this against the kids on 97DTR, they are a great group of kids and parents, and I am sure they will do their best to represent our league at Dallas Cup.

A great group of kids and parents????? I think you miss the point entirely. 1. The parents are more guilty than HN if they go along with this....and they will because they are worse than HN. There is no moral barrier that these people will not blast themselves through for little Johnny and HN knows that about them or they wouldn't be playing for him. God knows his choice of players is only 40% about their play ability, the rest is pocket book, sex appeal and "willingness". 2. These may have been good kids at age 1 but look at what these kids have been taught for the past 5 to 10 years and you will see that these are NOT "good kids". These kids are scarier than than the Taliban. Dont fool yourself. WAKE UP !!!! You can't hug a pig and expect not to get dirty and smell bad. Let's sit back and watch how many of these parents tell HN "No my kids character is more important to me than anything else...my kids will not be part of this dishonesty." Its not gonna happen but if by some stroke of goodness it does I will be the first to say "here we have a good kid and a good family" and I will give that family hero status in my book from here on out. The Texans parents are DIRTY and disgusting for allowing this to happen. Dont hide behind "the DEVIL made me do it". Be ashamed and own up to it.
This type of thing is going to create a lot more dishonesty and animosity on the future between players and teams. Thats not good for the sport and its growth AT ALL. The Dallas cup committee whoever they are have just hurt the Dallas cup as well. Think about how much confidence this destroys in the cup as a whole. You cannot say AT ALL that the Cup is above reproach from this point on. No one can. So if your kids on a team that wins the thing you start to ask yourself. "were we the better team"?? I think this whole thing is real bad and I dont think this is over yet.

b0013 wrote:So , all teams coming in will have to stay at hotels in Farmers Branch...?

plantit wrote:There could be a very easy fix to all of this . First. FCDallas pull the venue PHP.

Second, all The other large clubs boycott dallas cup. I think after the " Hosing" Solar took they would be first in line. Then have the other big 3 set up an international tournament in dallas , inviting teams from Europe, Latin america. Asia, And africa. Third designate a venue in our metroplex to each of these continents. Help each continent transform this venue into a cultural interpretation of Soccer in that continent.Have that host continent stay at that venue.

Third hire cultural businesses from the metroplex to aide in the transformation with food , dancers, programs ect. Also a win win for exposer of our diverse community.

Fourth have ,FCD, Solar, Andro use their contacts in the americas to invite high quality teams into the metroplex with the promise of playing one game in each venue. Thereby giving them a unpresidented soccer expierence.The lure to the countries? Cheap entry fees. an unpresidented hosting environment, a chance to expose their culture. The lure for the america's? A chance to play 4 different teams from four different parts of the world. Have a token gift exchange between countries at each venue. Who needs more tacky trophies. Return the game to what it is " beautiful " not for something but about something. If you want a result ,the top 2 team in each continent represents that continent playing the top point leaders that have traveled venue to venue. Champions are awarded by continant I.E Solar was africa champs,sweden was europe champs Ect,Ect.

By year 2, people will be saying dallas cup what? dallas cup who? Oh ya ! thats a texans tournament.