Crochet wrote:Well, its now official--its posted on the Dallas Cup website.
What I really love is the self-serving press release, clearly written to justify the change to include two Texans teams. Here is part of it: The Dallas Texans SC will be involved in the massive volunteer corps that makes the Dallas Cup experience what it is by providing new volunteers to form a number of new committees and to augment existing committees which will provide an even better experience for the teams, officials and spectators. The club will also assist with Stadium ticket sales, Official Tournament Program sales and Sponsorship solicitation. These areas of assistance are a major key to the success of the programs (Tournament and Dallas Is Diversity free soccer clinics) put forth by Dallas Cup, Inc. during the course of the year.

Do these people think we are stupid? Do they think we are going to read this and say "Uh, wow, the Texans are going to provide a massive amount of new volunteers--so I guess its ok for some lowly 7th place team to go over a 3rd place team." After reading this I wonder how the Dallas Cup survived for its first 25 years without all these volunteers and committees. Come on people. At least be intellectually honest.
Regardless of the self-serving hyperbole, my answer is the same--for this year and this year only, invite any extra Dallas teams cut-out by this late in the game process change.

True10 wrote:

Crochet wrote:Well, its now official--its posted on the Dallas Cup website.
What I really love is the self-serving press release, clearly written to justify the change to include two Texans teams. Here is part of it: The Dallas Texans SC will be involved in the massive volunteer corps that makes the Dallas Cup experience what it is by providing new volunteers to form a number of new committees and to augment existing committees which will provide an even better experience for the teams, officials and spectators. The club will also assist with Stadium ticket sales, Official Tournament Program sales and Sponsorship solicitation. These areas of assistance are a major key to the success of the programs (Tournament and Dallas Is Diversity free soccer clinics) put forth by Dallas Cup, Inc. during the course of the year.

Do these people think we are stupid? Do they think we are going to read this and say "Uh, wow, the Texans are going to provide a massive amount of new volunteers--so I guess its ok for some lowly 7th place team to go over a 3rd place team." After reading this I wonder how the Dallas Cup survived for its first 25 years without all these volunteers and committees. Come on people. At least be intellectually honest.
Regardless of the self-serving hyperbole, my answer is the same--for this year and this year only, invite any extra Dallas teams cut-out by this late in the game process change.

Funny know that are requesting volunteers on their website now. Maybe too many DT teams got in and not enough extra teams to man the booths.

True10 wrote:

Crochet wrote:Well, its now official--its posted on the Dallas Cup website.
What I really love is the self-serving press release, clearly written to justify the change to include two Texans teams. Here is part of it: The Dallas Texans SC will be involved in the massive volunteer corps that makes the Dallas Cup experience what it is by providing new volunteers to form a number of new committees and to augment existing committees which will provide an even better experience for the teams, officials and spectators. The club will also assist with Stadium ticket sales, Official Tournament Program sales and Sponsorship solicitation. These areas of assistance are a major key to the success of the programs (Tournament and Dallas Is Diversity free soccer clinics) put forth by Dallas Cup, Inc. during the course of the year.

Do these people think we are stupid? Do they think we are going to read this and say "Uh, wow, the Texans are going to provide a massive amount of new volunteers--so I guess its ok for some lowly 7th place team to go over a 3rd place team." After reading this I wonder how the Dallas Cup survived for its first 25 years without all these volunteers and committees. Come on people. At least be intellectually honest.
Regardless of the self-serving hyperbole, my answer is the same--for this year and this year only, invite any extra Dallas teams cut-out by this late in the game process change.

Funny know that are requesting volunteers on their website now. Maybe too many DT teams got in and not enough extra teams to man the booths.

go99 wrote:

True10 wrote:

Crochet wrote:Well, its now official--its posted on the Dallas Cup website.
What I really love is the self-serving press release, clearly written to justify the change to include two Texans teams. Here is part of it: The Dallas Texans SC will be involved in the massive volunteer corps that makes the Dallas Cup experience what it is by providing new volunteers to form a number of new committees and to augment existing committees which will provide an even better experience for the teams, officials and spectators. The club will also assist with Stadium ticket sales, Official Tournament Program sales and Sponsorship solicitation. These areas of assistance are a major key to the success of the programs (Tournament and Dallas Is Diversity free soccer clinics) put forth by Dallas Cup, Inc. during the course of the year.

Do these people think we are stupid? Do they think we are going to read this and say "Uh, wow, the Texans are going to provide a massive amount of new volunteers--so I guess its ok for some lowly 7th place team to go over a 3rd place team." After reading this I wonder how the Dallas Cup survived for its first 25 years without all these volunteers and committees. Come on people. At least be intellectually honest.
Regardless of the self-serving hyperbole, my answer is the same--for this year and this year only, invite any extra Dallas teams cut-out by this late in the game process change.

Funny know that are requesting volunteers on their website now. Maybe too many DT teams got in and not enough extra teams to man the booths.

I know I will not be volunteering. They should contact the texans and demand more helpers as proper compensation for the buyout

98mom wrote:Unfortunate. We were alternates last year, didn't make it in. We were told to be in the top 2 in D1 (U-19), and you'll be in this year. They worked hard, and will be passed over by a team that finished behind them. This will be a great lesson in politics for them to take with them.

old soccer dad wrote:Is Dallas Cup really that big of a deal? My kid has played in it since U-12 and its a lot work for the parents. I am hate to say this but I am tired of working the tournament so others can make money. The only people that actually go an watch the games are parents.

old soccer dad wrote:Is Dallas Cup really that big of a deal? My kid has played in it since U-12 and its a lot work for the parents. I am hate to say this but I am tired of working the tournament so others can make money. The only people that actually go an watch the games are parents.

outtabounds wrote:How can you say its not that big of a deal? It's been around for over 30 years now and puts Dallas on the soccer map in the big scheme of things. Over the years its become one of the world's most prestigious international youth soccer tournaments. Hopefully the Dallas Texans will make it even better. Can't wait to go this year.

go99 wrote:I hate on the texans all of the time usually jokingly but I think you should change the slogan too "if you can't beat them buy them" The fact remains that beacuse thet sponsored the tourney they have multiple team who passed over more qualified teams to be in the dallas cup. That is the moral ethical delimma which was the topic of the post. Tell your kids hard work pays off all you want, but we just showed them that money and power matter most. The Dallas cup will be a great tournament and can't wait to see the games. The oranizers should keep in mind that teams don't travel so they can walk over a mid table team just because they have a Texans jersey. It's about the competition and when they weaken it they make themselves open to being overtaken by a more competative tournament.

go99 wrote:considering the small amount of local teams going thru I think the 2 team are excessive, I don't blame HN that's what he does. I am sure he can manage to pull players from other teams to stregthen the mid table teams otherwise they will just get ran over and thats bad for business. It's good marketing, come play for the texans and you will get to play in the Dallas cup.

98mom wrote:My bb's U-19 was initially told that even though they finished in second place in D1, they would probably be passed over in favor of the 4th place Texan team. They have since received an invitation to the cup, and we will be hosting members of an international team. So.. all political aspects aside, does anyone care to share any stories of their experiences with hosting? Looking forward to the experience!

old soccer dad wrote:

98mom wrote:My bb's U-19 was initially told that even though they finished in second place in D1, they would probably be passed over in favor of the 4th place Texan team. They have since received an invitation to the cup, and we will be hosting members of an international team. So.. all political aspects aside, does anyone care to share any stories of their experiences with hosting? Looking forward to the experience!

We hosted in the past and we will host again this year and we have had a positive experience every year. In my opinion it the only good part of DC. In my opinion DC is losing some of its prestige.

happyfeet wrote:

old soccer dad wrote:

98mom wrote:My bb's U-19 was initially told that even though they finished in second place in D1, they would probably be passed over in favor of the 4th place Texan team. They have since received an invitation to the cup, and we will be hosting members of an international team. So.. all political aspects aside, does anyone care to share any stories of their experiences with hosting? Looking forward to the experience!

We hosted in the past and we will host again this year and we have had a positive experience every year. In my opinion it the only good part of DC. In my opinion DC is losing some of its prestige.

On the contrary, when you look at the Super Group this year and the probable one next year, it is gaining in prestige. This has has everything to do with Nike taking over.