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New Competitive League

rusty29000- Posts: 80
Join date: 2009-06-22
- Post n°1
New Competitive League
Any thoughts on the new league starting up?
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go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
- Post n°2
Re: New Competitive League
can't see the purpose. Looks like CL lite. Whats the reason for the new league and how is it any different from the CL?

coachdom- Posts: 477
Join date: 2009-06-26
- Post n°3
Re: New Competitive League
go99 wrote:can't see the purpose. Looks like CL lite. Whats the reason for the new league and how is it any different from the CL?
CL lite? IF the older divisions make, it will take away teams from PPL

go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
- Post n°4
Re: New Competitive League
that sounds about right, but would those teams still qualify to move up into the CL? If not then it would still even miss the top teams from PPL

coachdom- Posts: 477
Join date: 2009-06-26
- Post n°5
Re: New Competitive League
go99 wrote:that sounds about right, but would those teams still qualify to move up into the CL? If not then it would still even miss the top teams from PPL
CL and NTSSA could blacklist those teams from qualifying for CL. AND, their teams would have to jump through a couple of extra hoops to be allowed to play in USYS/NTSSA-sanctioned tournaments, assuming they aren't booted from NTSSA altogether. (NTSSA doesn't disown teams/clubs that play in SDL or PrimeTime, so that probably won't happen, but the league needs to be sanctioned through US Club Soccer, at the least.)
IF this league joins US Club Soccer, their teams could play in US Club Soccer tournaments and USYS/NTSSA "unrestricted" tournaments. If not, they are like PSA teams that can't play anywhere but PSA.

go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
- Post n°6
Re: New Competitive League
that's about what I thought. Can see why they have the new league other than money. Maybe if they did something different like a focus on development instead of competition. But as it stands it looks the same as CL and I don't see it doing much

indyfc- Posts: 357
Join date: 2009-08-25
- Post n°7
Re: New Competitive League
Would any CL team play both leagues? Seems like they are really flexible with the scheduling...

liebevin- Posts: 84
Join date: 2009-06-22
- Post n°8
Re: New Competitive League
indyfc wrote:Would any CL team play both leagues? Seems like they are really flexible with the scheduling...
Seems like a way to evaluate and collect talent for AYSES.....

clueless- Posts: 445
Join date: 2009-08-06
- Post n°9
Re: New Competitive League
liebevin wrote:indyfc wrote:Would any CL team play both leagues? Seems like they are really flexible with the scheduling...
Seems like a way to evaluate and collect talent for AYSES.....
or collect talent FROM AYSES.

b0013- Posts: 281
Join date: 2009-06-20
- Post n°10
Re: New Competitive League
liebevin wrote:indyfc wrote:Would any CL team play both leagues? Seems like they are really flexible with the scheduling...
Seems like a way to evaluate and collect talent for AYSES.....
That was my first thought when I saw this...

The German- Posts: 817
Join date: 2009-06-21
Location: Far far from home
- Post n°11
Re: New Competitive League
Do they have any? JKclueless wrote:liebevin wrote:indyfc wrote:Would any CL team play both leagues? Seems like they are really flexible with the scheduling...
Seems like a way to evaluate and collect talent for AYSES.....
or collect talent FROM AYSES.

go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
- Post n°12
Re: New Competitive League
The German wrote:Do they have any? JKclueless wrote:liebevin wrote:indyfc wrote:Would any CL team play both leagues? Seems like they are really flexible with the scheduling...
Seems like a way to evaluate and collect talent for AYSES.....
or collect talent FROM AYSES.
LOL

rusty29000- Posts: 80
Join date: 2009-06-22
- Post n°13
Re: New Competitive League
CL and NTSSA could blacklist those teams from qualifying for CL. AND, their teams would have to jump through a couple of extra hoops to be allowed to play in USYS/NTSSA-sanctioned tournaments, assuming they aren't booted from NTSSA altogether. (NTSSA doesn't disown teams/clubs that play in SDL or PrimeTime, so that probably won't happen, but the league needs to be sanctioned through US Club Soccer, at the least.)
IF this league joins US Club Soccer, their teams could play in US Club Soccer tournaments and USYS/NTSSA "unrestricted" tournaments. If not, they are like PSA teams that can't play anywhere but PSA.
I am curious about the fact that 2 "REC" teams from Dallas East have taken control of the 96' & 97' Div. 1 PPL.
Rayados De Monterrey 97B PPL
Inter-Milan 96B PPL
CL Challenge should open it's eyes outside of PPL and APL. There is obviously some competition outside of these two leagues IMO.
IF this league joins US Club Soccer, their teams could play in US Club Soccer tournaments and USYS/NTSSA "unrestricted" tournaments. If not, they are like PSA teams that can't play anywhere but PSA.
I am curious about the fact that 2 "REC" teams from Dallas East have taken control of the 96' & 97' Div. 1 PPL.
Rayados De Monterrey 97B PPL
Inter-Milan 96B PPL
CL Challenge should open it's eyes outside of PPL and APL. There is obviously some competition outside of these two leagues IMO.

rusty29000- Posts: 80
Join date: 2009-06-22
- Post n°14
Re: New Competitive League
Looks like some teams are starting to sign up. Some previous PPL teams

soccerdad1- Posts: 308
Join date: 2009-06-22
Location: Fort Worth
- Post n°15
Re: New Competitive League
Where do you get your information from? And please define some, i.e 2,3,more? Does that mean some teams are not returning to PPL-or are they playing both?

norwich city- Posts: 124
Join date: 2009-06-29
Location: Fortworth
- Post n°16
Re: New Competitive League
Yes, I would like to know the same thing.I don't see anywhere on their site that you can see the teams that have signed up.

rusty29000- Posts: 80
Join date: 2009-06-22
- Post n°17
Re: New Competitive League
Just some previous teams that did not make in time for PPL are the ones wanting to participate. I do not know if there is enough teams signed up to make a league. There is not a team that I know of leaving PPL. Does anyone know the rules that apply to a kid playing competitive soccer, if he is allowed to play for 2 different teams under the NTTSA rules.

soccerdad1- Posts: 308
Join date: 2009-06-22
Location: Fort Worth
- Post n°18
Re: New Competitive League
You can't play for 2 different teams-otherwise kids would play in both Classic and Plano/Arlington.

rusty29000- Posts: 80
Join date: 2009-06-22
- Post n°19
Re: New Competitive League
The league did not make.

coachdom- Posts: 477
Join date: 2009-06-26
- Post n°20
Re: New Competitive League
rusty29000 wrote:The league did not make.
Its only January 12th.

soccermom040- Posts: 103
Join date: 2009-07-26
- Post n°21
Re: New Competitive League
soccerdad1 wrote:You can't play for 2 different teams-otherwise kids would play in both Classic and Plano/Arlington.
I THINK

go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
- Post n°22
Re: New Competitive League
sounds good to me

coachdom- Posts: 477
Join date: 2009-06-26
- Post n°23
Re: New Competitive League
soccermom040 wrote:This new league could turn the clock back to when soccer was a sport, not a business. Just imagine, your kid playing with multiple teams, multiple age groups... now we're talking player development!
Sounds great. No one will be worried about winning and losing.

soccermom040- Posts: 103
Join date: 2009-07-26
- Post n°24
Re: New Competitive League
coachdom wrote:soccermom040 wrote:This new league could turn the clock back to when soccer was a sport, not a business. Just imagine, your kid playing with multiple teams, multiple age groups... now we're talking player development!
Sounds great. No one will be worried about winning and losing.
well... all depends on how the clubs pass the buck to the parents. This league is not part of the usual contract, which means clubs could charge more. Also, you'll have coaches out there that will try to keep their dollars, oops, I mean players, from playing with another team. Parents will need to buck up to these over glorified PE teachers and let their kids play where they want.

my2cents- Posts: 816
Join date: 2009-07-01
- Post n°25
Re: New Competitive League
Yeah lets make sure they can play in two leagues, throw in some indoor, maybe some extra skills sessions ,tournaments etc. I can smell the burn out smoke already.

go99- Posts: 2016
Join date: 2009-07-09
Location: Standing next to Klinsmann wispering in his ear.
- Post n°26
Re: New Competitive League
or how about we throw out some indoor, extra skills, drop a few tournaments etc? The smoke will not be coming from a free play enviornment. The new league has the potential to become a fun enviornment for kids to go back to just enjoying soccer. It will probably never take off because the Clubs, competative parents, and probably the league it's self will ruin it. Let the kids form teams with friends etc, regardless of club affiliation. Use minimal coaching and subs, and allow the kids to just play and enjoy playing.

centermiddad- Posts: 83
Join date: 2009-06-28
- Post n°27
Re: New Competitive League
my2cents wrote:Yeah lets make sure they can play in two leagues, throw in some indoor, maybe some extra skills sessions ,tournaments etc. I can smell the burn out smoke already.
Don't forget to throw in the 5 different coaching styles into the mix. Nothing like listening to 5 different coaches telling you they are the only ones who really know how to coach. That when you play for ME you do this and that and blah blah blah....kid won't know what he's doing in 2 weeks time.

mrclean- Posts: 269
Join date: 2009-06-24
- Post n°28
Re: New Competitive League
I really think that more games can be beneficial. The problem is how American boys tend to play from U15 on up. There is too much emotion and too many hard tackles. You can't do that year round and expect to stay healthy. There are three types of tackles: block, toe-poke, and a slide tackle where you are side by side and you get the ball. A collision is not a tackle. Sliding into a player at top speed is not a tackle.
If you are going to play more games, we have to focus on more controlled play in both attacking and defending.
Seriously, if you want to see how it can be done, just watch a Men's Mexican League. They aren't trying to hurt each other. They know how important their legs and back are. You also see mutual respect. If we can learn to do that, then a game every day wouldn't even be a problem.
If you are going to play more games, we have to focus on more controlled play in both attacking and defending.
Seriously, if you want to see how it can be done, just watch a Men's Mexican League. They aren't trying to hurt each other. They know how important their legs and back are. You also see mutual respect. If we can learn to do that, then a game every day wouldn't even be a problem.

my2cents- Posts: 816
Join date: 2009-07-01
- Post n°29
Re: New Competitive League
mrclean wrote:I really think that more games can be beneficial. The problem is how American boys tend to play from U15 on up. There is too much emotion and too many hard tackles. You can't do that year round and expect to stay healthy. There are three types of tackles: block, toe-poke, and a slide tackle where you are side by side and you get the ball. A collision is not a tackle. Sliding into a player at top speed is not a tackle.
If you are going to play more games, we have to focus on more controlled play in both attacking and defending.
Seriously, if you want to see how it can be done, just watch a Men's Mexican League. They aren't trying to hurt each other. They know how important their legs and back are. You also see mutual respect. If we can learn to do that, then a game every day wouldn't even be a problem.
I am not so sure about that. Fort Worth Park and Rec will not let adult mens league( almost 100%hispanic) and youth games play on the same field complex because of the langauge and fights. I agree about the hard tackles but there is also alot of dirty play. Watched a bunch of HS games this weekend and last few weeks and the dirty play was not carded and was condoned by coaches. It is sad.

socmom3- Posts: 319
Join date: 2009-06-23
Location: Hmmm....not sure
- Post n°30
Re: New Competitive League
my2cents wrote:mrclean wrote:I really think that more games can be beneficial. The problem is how American boys tend to play from U15 on up. There is too much emotion and too many hard tackles. You can't do that year round and expect to stay healthy. There are three types of tackles: block, toe-poke, and a slide tackle where you are side by side and you get the ball. A collision is not a tackle. Sliding into a player at top speed is not a tackle.
If you are going to play more games, we have to focus on more controlled play in both attacking and defending.
Seriously, if you want to see how it can be done, just watch a Men's Mexican League. They aren't trying to hurt each other. They know how important their legs and back are. You also see mutual respect. If we can learn to do that, then a game every day wouldn't even be a problem.
I am not so sure about that. Fort Worth Park and Rec will not let adult mens league( almost 100%hispanic) and youth games play on the same field complex because of the langauge and fights. I agree about the hard tackles but there is also alot of dirty play. Watched a bunch of HS games this weekend and last few weeks and the dirty play was not carded and was condoned by coaches. It is sad.
Can't really speak to the topic BUT I will concur with you on the dirty play being allowed by refs and condoned by coaches in the HS games I've seen so far this season. I'm all for good, physical play but some of the stuff I witnessed this past weekend, especially, definitely crossed that line.


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