CLUB31 wrote:For all those who read these posts go back every two months for the last however long and you can re-read exactly what these guys have written this time around. It's the same thing over and over and over and over..........
Why don't Go99,Plantiff,ect just go overseas and you won't have to beat yourself up over this all the time. You guys are just really stupid or just like to fight losing battles. I hope your kids are off the charts good because all you talk about is their pro career.
Most parents and kids want their team to win now. That is just the way it is. I'm not saying it's right but it is not changing. These clubs concentrate on winning at u9,u10,u11,u12 and so on. This makes them money and that's the bottom line!
Personally, myself like most parents just want their kids to have fun with a good team and experience good competition in a sport they like to play. If our kids play high school or college soccer great if not hopefully they had a good experience and met some friends along the way. My kid is not thinking about what kind of player he is going to be in the year 2015 he is thinking about beating the team he is playing this weekend. That's the way it should be!

CLUB31 wrote:For all those who read these posts go back every two months for the last however long and you can re-read exactly what these guys have written this time around. It's the same thing over and over and over and over..........
Why don't Go99,Plantiff,ect just go overseas and you won't have to beat yourself up over this all the time. You guys are just really stupid or just like to fight losing battles. I hope your kids are off the charts good because all you talk about is their pro career.
Most parents and kids want their team to win now. That is just the way it is. I'm not saying it's right but it is not changing. These clubs concentrate on winning at u9,u10,u11,u12 and so on. This makes them money and that's the bottom line!
Personally, myself like most parents just want their kids to have fun with a good team and experience good competition in a sport they like to play. If our kids play high school or college soccer great if not hopefully they had a good experience and met some friends along the way. My kid is not thinking about what kind of player he is going to be in the year 2015 he is thinking about beating the team he is playing this weekend. That's the way it should be!

CLUB31 wrote:Gabba- Maybe my wording was wrong in a couple of instances and that's my bad. Mainly, you focused on the word "fun", which I would like a redo. I want my kid to be as good as he can get and that's why he plays select. That kind of competition is not avaliable in "rec". It's my opnion it will come with time and talent and skill that is still being developed. I guess I have a little more patience than you guys and realize 3,4,5 more years of playing tough competativve soccer and my bb will eventually find out if he is good enough.

stumpyD wrote:

go99 wrote:

CLUB31 wrote:For all those who read these posts go back every two months for the last however long and you can re-read exactly what these guys have written this time around. It's the same thing over and over and over and over..........
Why don't Go99,Plantiff,ect just go overseas and you won't have to beat yourself up over this all the time. You guys are just really stupid or just like to fight losing battles. I hope your kids are off the charts good because all you talk about is their pro career.
Most parents and kids want their team to win now. That is just the way it is. I'm not saying it's right but it is not changing. These clubs concentrate on winning at u9,u10,u11,u12 and so on. This makes them money and that's the bottom line!
Personally, myself like most parents just want their kids to have fun with a good team and experience good competition in a sport they like to play. If our kids play high school or college soccer great if not hopefully they had a good experience and met some friends along the way. My kid is not thinking about what kind of player he is going to be in the year 2015 he is thinking about beating the team he is playing this weekend. That's the way it should be!

Last post on 31 because I like him and actually agree with him. You really seem to have a need to be like most people, part of the group. I think you are right, but hope you are wrong. Clubs will give more when parents ask for it. BTW not only do I want him to think about the player he will be in 2015 but also the type of person he will be. Short term outlook leads to short term decisions. It's the American Way.

Go, I have a question. You keep talking about the "Columbians" that were here being so good. Are you familiar with Columbian soccer? I think I would check my facts before I use a country that hasn't qualified for the World Cup since 98 and doesn't even rank in the top 25 of the FIFA world rankings (U.S. #14 by the way). I'm not saying the system is working or even good for that matter, but let up of the "American Way" bashing, we are better than what you think we should aspire to! Or are they not interested in winning, just developing.

gababa wrote:

go99 wrote:Club31 illustrates one of my points. Change will not come from Texans or Solar or any of the big clubs. Club31 is right, he is in the majority. Give it to me now is the american way. The club focus on wins because their customer responds to it. They will not change. FCD has the opportunity to change because of the professional club and transfer markets. They can take the temporary financial hit for the long term gain. Make the program successful and they can pull the kids who are trying to do something. I for one am glad my bb has a deeper thought than just this weekend.

Go, what does it take to make something happen ? It is 8.30 AM Tuesday Mr FCD manager today decides to work. He picks up his phone. Call the 6 coaches he has hired to train his u11 kids, tell the coaches to each choose 3-4 kids in their own roster which are showing potential and have dedicated parents. He gives the coaches 3 days to come with their own list. At the end of the week he has another list of players; he offers the parents, free of charge one additional practice on sunday at Pizza hut on one forth a the numerous fields he has available to him. The week after they are together practicing with a coach they don't know coming from another age group, they now are together super motivated and can learn soccer at a different level. Frankly is it that hard ? Does it take that long ?

rantnrave wrote:

go99 wrote:

stumpyD wrote:

go99 wrote:

CLUB31 wrote:For all those who read these posts go back every two months for the last however long and you can re-read exactly what these guys have written this time around. It's the same thing over and over and over and over..........
Why don't Go99,Plantiff,ect just go overseas and you won't have to beat yourself up over this all the time. You guys are just really stupid or just like to fight losing battles. I hope your kids are off the charts good because all you talk about is their pro career.
Most parents and kids want their team to win now. That is just the way it is. I'm not saying it's right but it is not changing. These clubs concentrate on winning at u9,u10,u11,u12 and so on. This makes them money and that's the bottom line!
Personally, myself like most parents just want their kids to have fun with a good team and experience good competition in a sport they like to play. If our kids play high school or college soccer great if not hopefully they had a good experience and met some friends along the way. My kid is not thinking about what kind of player he is going to be in the year 2015 he is thinking about beating the team he is playing this weekend. That's the way it should be!

Last post on 31 because I like him and actually agree with him. You really seem to have a need to be like most people, part of the group. I think you are right, but hope you are wrong. Clubs will give more when parents ask for it. BTW not only do I want him to think about the player he will be in 2015 but also the type of person he will be. Short term outlook leads to short term decisions. It's the American Way.

Go, I have a question. You keep talking about the "Columbians" that were here being so good. Are you familiar with Columbian soccer? I think I would check my facts before I use a country that hasn't qualified for the World Cup since 98 and doesn't even rank in the top 25 of the FIFA world rankings (U.S. #14 by the way). I'm not saying the system is working or even good for that matter, but let up of the "American Way" bashing, we are better than what you think we should aspire to! Or are they not interested in winning, just developing.

I suspect if they played in our region they might far a little better and certianly if we played in theres I doubt we would ever qualify. Oh my "American Way" bashing goes way beyond soccer. Soccer is just on of the by products of an instant gratification ME society.

go99,
Sorry for getting involved in this. But, the last time I checked; we are still the greatest society in the world! Just my two cents.

stumpyD wrote:

go99 wrote:

rantnrave wrote:

go99 wrote:

stumpyD wrote:

go99 wrote:

CLUB31 wrote:For all those who read these posts go back every two months for the last however long and you can re-read exactly what these guys have written this time around. It's the same thing over and over and over and over..........
Why don't Go99,Plantiff,ect just go overseas and you won't have to beat yourself up over this all the time. You guys are just really stupid or just like to fight losing battles. I hope your kids are off the charts good because all you talk about is their pro career.
Most parents and kids want their team to win now. That is just the way it is. I'm not saying it's right but it is not changing. These clubs concentrate on winning at u9,u10,u11,u12 and so on. This makes them money and that's the bottom line!
Personally, myself like most parents just want their kids to have fun with a good team and experience good competition in a sport they like to play. If our kids play high school or college soccer great if not hopefully they had a good experience and met some friends along the way. My kid is not thinking about what kind of player he is going to be in the year 2015 he is thinking about beating the team he is playing this weekend. That's the way it should be!

Last post on 31 because I like him and actually agree with him. You really seem to have a need to be like most people, part of the group. I think you are right, but hope you are wrong. Clubs will give more when parents ask for it. BTW not only do I want him to think about the player he will be in 2015 but also the type of person he will be. Short term outlook leads to short term decisions. It's the American Way.

Go, I have a question. You keep talking about the "Columbians" that were here being so good. Are you familiar with Columbian soccer? I think I would check my facts before I use a country that hasn't qualified for the World Cup since 98 and doesn't even rank in the top 25 of the FIFA world rankings (U.S. #14 by the way). I'm not saying the system is working or even good for that matter, but let up of the "American Way" bashing, we are better than what you think we should aspire to! Or are they not interested in winning, just developing.

I suspect if they played in our region they might far a little better and certianly if we played in theres I doubt we would ever qualify. Oh my "American Way" bashing goes way beyond soccer. Soccer is just on of the by products of an instant gratification ME society.

go99,
Sorry for getting involved in this. But, the last time I checked; we are still the greatest society in the world! Just my two cents.

I would agree. A professor in college once said America is both the greatest and the worst country in the world. The greatest because of the freedoms, accomplishment, and all the things we accomplish in the world. The worse because of how far short we fall of our potential. Columbia will never be the greatest soccer country in the world, I think the US has the potential to be. We can learn from everyone else successes and failures and put our own American spin on it. The US has never settled for 2nd best and I don't think we should start with Soccer. Ask for more, strive for more, work hard for more, and we just might get it. That's an old school "American way" that is being lost

My you are just a little one man show aren't ya. Let us know when you get all the kinks worked out of our underachieving country. Its easy to be deep in college philosophy. Maybe you should put the same "ask,strive,work" manta towards something more important than soccer, it seems so trivial when you talk about our shortcomings as described above. Maybe Haiti could use a guy like you.

Aswan wrote:My you are just a little one man show aren't ya. Let us know when you get all the kinks worked out of our underachieving country. Its easy to be deep in college philosophy. Maybe you should put the same "ask,strive,work" manta towards something more important than soccer, it seems so trivial when you talk about our shortcomings as described above. Maybe Haiti could use a guy like you.



Wake up!

Unelected elitists, believing in their inherent right to rule over the masses, control our public officials. Not content with emptying the public coffers of billions of dollars to support their special interest, through fear and intimidation they have effectively suppressed the basic rights, freedoms, and aspirations of the American people, aspirations enshrined in our Declaration of Independence and embodying the sacred legacy of our forefathers. The elitist masters in their ivory press boxes could well afford to let a few morsels of corn spill from their glutted trough. But no, in their elitist arrogance these interests have foisted upon us burdensome football programs that deny the resources necessary to fulfill the hopes and dreams of the working man and woman, the very people who are the backbone of this great nation. These unelected football masters have seen to it that gridiron teams dwell in palatial stadiums while the soccer-playing children of this nation are denied even the meanest patch of ground on which to play. Only through personal self-sacrifice have the citizens of this country kept their hopes alive. Working men and women throughout this great nation have born on their backs the cost of educating and training their children, paying club fees, purchasing SUVs, and replacing AWOL soccer balls beyond counting. This cost has been sacrificed from continually diminishing household budgets, sacrificed because hope does not die easily in a great people, particularly the hope that the suffering of our children may be diminished and that they may, one day, come to live in a better world than the one into which we were born. How long, how long, I ask, must the citizens of this country endure this egregious injustice? Until the festering boil rots the very core of the American Spirit? Stand up! Stand in the street and on the square and claim the rights given to us by God All-mighty and secured for us by the blood of our patriot forefathers. Shout to our self-proclaimed masters “Not one minute more will we forfeit the future of our children, not one minute more will we slave at the feet of robber barons and the enemies of freedom. Not one minute more!”



(For those who followed my last presidential campaign (all three of you), I apologize for the repetition herein. The message is worth restating, however.)