Rant- I don't think he was Suaarez bashing just giving his opinion on what kind of soccer he witnessed this weekend. I think the soccer is getting better myself. As for Suarez, I have heard from a few people that the game was handed to them with some game changing calls. But that's the way it goes sometimes.

CLUB31 wrote:Rant- I don't think he was Suaarez bashing just giving his opinion on what kind of soccer he witnessed this weekend. I think the soccer is getting better myself. As for Suarez, I have heard from a few people that the game was handed to them with some game changing calls. But that's the way it goes sometimes.

Okay I understand, but, for the record; each Team had a P.K. opportunity. Each Team probably had an additional 3-4 free kicks. Aren't those usually a result of aggressive play and causing the other Team to make desperate attempts at stopping an attack? Calls were both good and bad. An 8:00am start time under tough conditions probably affected the ref's. They probably didn't want to be out there.

Thanks Club, for clarifying my position regarding Suarez. Just observing how we went from bashers to praisers in a short period of time. Rant, football is a game defined by a strict discipline to shape and ball movement. Players need a minimum understanding of how play on and off the ball, passing, receiving and maintaining shape. I'm not sure if it's the coaches not demanding it or the players not understanding. Select players at this age should be adopting the discipline, not just kicking the ball up.

finish1 wrote:Thanks Club, for clarifying my position regarding Suarez. Just observing how we went from bashers to praisers in a short period of time. Rant, football is a game defined by a strict discipline to shape and ball movement. Players need a minimum understanding of how play on and off the ball, passing, receiving and maintaining shape. I'm not sure if it's the coaches not demanding it or the players not understanding. Select players at this age should be adopting the discipline, not just kicking the ball up.

which teams are the worst offenders in your esteemed opinion?

finish1 wrote:Thanks Club, for clarifying my position regarding Suarez. Just observing how we went from bashers to praisers in a short period of time. Rant, football is a game defined by a strict discipline to shape and ball movement. Players need a minimum understanding of how play on and off the ball, passing, receiving and maintaining shape. I'm not sure if it's the coaches not demanding it or the players not understanding. Select players at this age should be adopting the discipline, not just kicking the ball up.

Yeah, you gotta treat the ball like a woman; or a woman like a ball...what was it that Eric Cantona said, again?

Yes we want some good gory info. Read below :Coaches and Managers,

I sent the below email out on January 25th reminding you and your team Classic Leagues policy regarding parent/spectator send offs. Today alone we had 5 parent/spectator send offs from the U11 age group alone. I am shocked that after the below email was sent out that we are still having this issue. It seems that some teams believe that they are above the rules. I want each of you to send a copy of the attached memo to your parents.

Each coach is responsible for their parents behavior on the sidelines. It is the coaches responsibility to keep their parents/spectators under control. Spectators should NEVER address a referee before, during or after a game.

Your parents represent not only your team but your club. I would suggest that you express to your parents that they need to start behaving like adults. Your teams reputation will follow you for the rest of your child's Classic League career. Coaches, I strongly suggest that you get with your parents and explain the importance of sideline etiquette.

I hope this is the last time I have to address this issue.


Julie Seidel
U11 Commissioner

Come on, we want to know ; who and where did that happen (not in the FCD/Comets game) ??

gababa wrote:Yes we want some good gory info. Read below :Coaches and Managers,

I sent the below email out on January 25th reminding you and your team Classic Leagues policy regarding parent/spectator send offs. Today alone we had 5 parent/spectator send offs from the U11 age group alone. I am shocked that after the below email was sent out that we are still having this issue. It seems that some teams believe that they are above the rules. I want each of you to send a copy of the attached memo to your parents.

Each coach is responsible for their parents behavior on the sidelines. It is the coaches responsibility to keep their parents/spectators under control. Spectators should NEVER address a referee before, during or after a game.

Your parents represent not only your team but your club. I would suggest that you express to your parents that they need to start behaving like adults. Your teams reputation will follow you for the rest of your child's Classic League career. Coaches, I strongly suggest that you get with your parents and explain the importance of sideline etiquette.

I hope this is the last time I have to address this issue.


Julie Seidel
U11 Commissioner

Come on, we want to know ; who and where did that happen (not in the FCD/Comets game) ??

Yeah, we want names! wasn't me, I was still hitting the snooze button. K, back to work now.

finish1 wrote:Thanks Club, for clarifying my position regarding Suarez. Just observing how we went from bashers to praisers in a short period of time. Rant, football is a game defined by a strict discipline to shape and ball movement. Players need a minimum understanding of how play on and off the ball, passing, receiving and maintaining shape. I'm not sure if it's the coaches not demanding it or the players not understanding. Select players at this age should be adopting the discipline, not just kicking the ball up.

I was going to let this go, but, finish1-"scorned" can't. Read his comments. "And, where is the Suarez bashing. They were trash this Winter (see earlier post) and now the Second Coming. Ridiculous. Touch, pass, build, cross, finish. Discipline! That's football". Finish1 were you there?

I agree I saw very decent soccer during that game between comets/FCD. Now since he comes back at it I won't let rantrave survives his "blablabla... free kicks. Aren't those usually a result of aggressive play and causing the other Team to make desperate attempts at stopping an attack?" That's pure bull. The free kick that leads to FCd 2nd ball is caused by a hand ball 30 yards away. The defensive player misses his first touch (ball bounce towards his hand). There is nobody around him, he is not under pressure and just tries to play the ball and move forward.Then and all game long I don't see FCD swarming around a frightened and overwhelmed comets defense. This game was played 50/50 all game long. At 2-0 comets should have been able to keep the lead. Shame on them to end up loosing and congrats on FCD to manage to come back.

Hey Finish1, judging by some of your comments regarding Malbec, Messi, etc., I would guess you have Argentine ties. But then again, your English seems way to good to be one, lol. I had you for a Solar parent but perhaps I'm mistaken. Are you like Speedy and keeping your affiliation anonymous?
No disrespect, but you seem to offer up much critizism without many solutions. What gives?

gababa wrote:I agree I saw very decent soccer during that game between comets/FCD. Now since he comes back at it I won't let rantrave survives his "blablabla... free kicks. Aren't those usually a result of aggressive play and causing the other Team to make desperate attempts at stopping an attack?" That's pure bull. The free kick that leads to FCd 2nd ball is caused by a hand ball 30 yards away. The defensive player misses his first touch (ball bounce towards his hand). There is nobody around him, he is not under pressure and just tries to play the ball and move forward.Then and all game long I don't see FCD swarming around a frightened and overwhelmed comets defense. This game was played 50/50 all game long. At 2-0 comets should have been able to keep the lead. Shame on them to end up loosing and congrats on FCD to manage to come back.

A handball is a handball. Sounds like the ref made the right call. Regardless, games are won in many ways. P.K.'s, Free Kicks, whatever. It is time now to move on. Comets have great parents and great kids. Don't get caught up in symantics.

Actually Rantrave it seems that I feel  like talking this morning and would like to entertain you with some semantic of soccer. A handball is not always a handball. T. Henri makes a handball to qualify the french team to the world cup. Indeed, his hand goes to the ball and controls the ball. On the other hand (ok, I won't do this one again) that kid misses his first touch, the ball bounced and goes to his hand. On that play he is clumsy but doesn't do it intentionally and his hand doesn't go to the ball. SO, in my humble opinion there is actually no hand ball on that play. But the ref calls it and a monster kick ties the game. As you say this is history, let's move on. But it is fun to talk, that's why we are here for and who knows some days we might even learn a thing or 2 by doing so. 

technically that is correct. His hand has to go to the ball not accidental contact. Maybe if his hands were raised or he gained a distinct advantadge by the contact. However the simple fact is Comets failed to put the game away.

What happened on the 1st pk that fc took? I heard that was a worse call

CLUB31 wrote:What happened on the 1st pk that fc took? I heard that was a worse call

From my own bb, the worst call was when the Comets play advantage was taken away by the ref. Offensive player gets inside the box, then the whistle is blown for a foul...FOR the Comets from a foul committed way outside the box! He didn't understand that one.

Since Finish1 seems well aware of Argentine culture, he can describe Mardonnas "Hand of God". People still talk about that one!

Ibystander wrote:

CLUB31 wrote:What happened on the 1st pk that fc took? I heard that was a worse call

From my own bb, the worst call was when the Comets play advantage was taken away by the ref. Offensive player gets inside the box, then the whistle is blown for a foul...FOR the Comets from a foul committed way outside the box! He didn't understand that one.

Not sure about this particular incident, but that is one thing I have noticed about the majority of refs. in the area. They either blow the whistle way prematurely or have no idea what "advantage" is all about.

Ibystander wrote:

gababa wrote:Yes we want some good gory info. Read below :Coaches and Managers,

I sent the below email out on January 25th reminding you and your team Classic Leagues policy regarding parent/spectator send offs. Today alone we had 5 parent/spectator send offs from the U11 age group alone. I am shocked that after the below email was sent out that we are still having this issue. It seems that some teams believe that they are above the rules. I want each of you to send a copy of the attached memo to your parents.

Each coach is responsible for their parents behavior on the sidelines. It is the coaches responsibility to keep their parents/spectators under control. Spectators should NEVER address a referee before, during or after a game.

Your parents represent not only your team but your club. I would suggest that you express to your parents that they need to start behaving like adults. Your teams reputation will follow you for the rest of your child's Classic League career. Coaches, I strongly suggest that you get with your parents and explain the importance of sideline etiquette.

I hope this is the last time I have to address this issue.


Julie Seidel
U11 Commissioner

Come on, we want to know ; who and where did that happen (not in the FCD/Comets game) ??

Yeah, we want names! wasn't me, I was still hitting the snooze button. K, back to work now.

Too embarrassed to fess up or is the "5 parent/spectator sendoffs" an exaggeration by our commissioner? I know I didn't get sent off (although I sometimes deserve it).

I didn't hear of any parent sendoffs??? Maybe it is there way of protecting poor officiating??????

I was involved in one of the incidents this weekend but was not one of the 5 sendoffs being referred to. I have been involved with Classic league for a long time (since my 94 bb days) and will pre-emt this with saying I have never been involved in any altercations previously. I watched the Andro vs. Tyler game away from Andro and Tyler parents but had to listed to a Tyler parent yack away the entire game and make obnoxious comments and or scream like a little girl when his team did something good. I took it all in and didn't let it bother me. The problem is that on field 10 the spectator area is fenced in and there is only one exit. Both teams wait in the same area waiting for the kids to come of the field. During that time I had to listed to this parent relentlessly make ridiculous loud comments about the refs calls and why they were happening. I reacted and simply told him to shutup. When he kept at it, it escalated a little from there but nothing happened other than parents on both sides getting excited. I let some dumb comments get to me and I have apologized to my team for it and will publically apologize to anyone who saw it as well, including the other team. Will not happen again. End of story, other than the call I'm expecting from the league. No send offs or fines since it happened after the game.

Axxman wrote:I was involved in one of the incidents this weekend but was not one of the 5 sendoffs being referred to. I have been involved with Classic league for a long time (since my 94 bb days) and will pre-emt this with saying I have never been involved in any altercations previously. I watched the Andro vs. Tyler game away from Andro and Tyler parents but had to listed to a Tyler parent yack away the entire game and make obnoxious comments and or scream like a little girl when his team did something good. I took it all in and didn't let it bother me. The problem is that on field 10 the spectator area is fenced in and there is only one exit. Both teams wait in the same area waiting for the kids to come of the field. During that time I had to listed to this parent relentlessly make ridiculous loud comments about the refs calls and why they were happening. I reacted and simply told him to shutup. When he kept at it, it escalated a little from there but nothing happened other than parents on both sides getting excited. I let some dumb comments get to me and I have apologized to my team for it and will publically apologize to anyone who saw it as well, including the other team. Will not happen again. End of story, other than the call I'm expecting from the league. No send offs or fines since it happened after the game.

Screaming like a girl? That's not sexist. Anyway, the first step to being cured is to admit it. We're here to help you. Who's next?

Lol. I had listen to listen to the Azzuri parents before. Found them quite funny. Definately football country up there. They talked and complained constantly and had a complete lack of understanding of the game or the rules. I am not from here so love the accent too. Great stuff

gababa wrote:Actually Rantrave it seems that I feel like talking this morning and would like to entertain you with some semantic of soccer. A handball is not always a handball. T. Henri makes a handball to qualify the french team to the world cup. Indeed, his hand goes to the ball and controls the ball. On the other hand (ok, I won't do this one again) that kid misses his first touch, the ball bounced and goes to his hand. On that play he is clumsy but doesn't do it intentionally and his hand doesn't go to the ball. SO, in my humble opinion there is actually no hand ball on that play. But the ref calls it and a monster kick ties the game. As you say this is history, let's move on. But it is fun to talk, that's why we are here for and who knows some days we might even learn a thing or 2 by doing so.

I am quite sure his Parents love hearing him referred to as "clumsy". Would of should could of scenario. Hit your shots and maybe things are different.

Maradonna "God's Hand!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0zjx4MAHzk&feature=fvw
Messi "Good God, Hand!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frnyf666z0s&feature=related
Henry- "God What an Idiot"

rantnrave wrote:

gababa wrote:Actually Rantrave it seems that I feel like talking this morning and would like to entertain you with some semantic of soccer. A handball is not always a handball. T. Henri makes a handball to qualify the french team to the world cup. Indeed, his hand goes to the ball and controls the ball. On the other hand (ok, I won't do this one again) that kid misses his first touch, the ball bounced and goes to his hand. On that play he is clumsy but doesn't do it intentionally and his hand doesn't go to the ball. SO, in my humble opinion there is actually no hand ball on that play. But the ref calls it and a monster kick ties the game. As you say this is history, let's move on. But it is fun to talk, that's why we are here for and who knows some days we might even learn a thing or 2 by doing so.

I am quite sure his Parents love hearing him referred to as "clumsy". Would of should could of scenario. Hit your shots and maybe things are different.

saw game

losing by 2

win because of free kick and pk and luck

need to shutup and tank god and have your team practice more

wait to you beat good team and get cocky then

Good stuff Finish!!!
BTW and not to keep this going, but that penalty called on barca at the end against Getafe is EXACTLY the way it went down in the Andro vs Tyler game. I know the Tyler parent involved is on here, so take a look at the video. The bottom line is that the refs make calls, good or bad, and that's the way it goes. The game ended and there is nothing that can be done about results, whether you agree or not. Ther results are what they are. That is what this blog is for, so we can all come one here and discuss, argue, whine, or whatever you want before or after the fact.

CLUB31 wrote:What happened on the 1st pk that fc took? I heard that was a worse call

No not much there just a mess in the box, 1 offensive player surrounded by 3 defensive guys, he goes down once, the ref doesn't call it, he gets up goes down again the ref calls it. I am too far to really see but it seems completely normal.

rantnrave wrote:

gababa wrote:Actually Rantrave it seems that I feel like talking this morning and would like to entertain you with some semantic of soccer. A handball is not always a handball. T. Henri makes a handball to qualify the french team to the world cup. Indeed, his hand goes to the ball and controls the ball. On the other hand (ok, I won't do this one again) that kid misses his first touch, the ball bounced and goes to his hand. On that play he is clumsy but doesn't do it intentionally and his hand doesn't go to the ball. SO, in my humble opinion there is actually no hand ball on that play. But the ref calls it and a monster kick ties the game. As you say this is history, let's move on. But it is fun to talk, that's why we are here for and who knows some days we might even learn a thing or 2 by doing so.

I am quite sure his Parents love hearing him referred to as "clumsy". Would of should could of scenario. Hit your shots and maybe things are different.

Funny how you want to spread the love; read me again :"On that play he is clumsy". I don't know of anybody who once can't be clumsy; so once again on that play he is clumsy

99srule wrote:

rantnrave wrote:

gababa wrote:Actually Rantrave it seems that I feel like talking this morning and would like to entertain you with some semantic of soccer. A handball is not always a handball. T. Henri makes a handball to qualify the french team to the world cup. Indeed, his hand goes to the ball and controls the ball. On the other hand (ok, I won't do this one again) that kid misses his first touch, the ball bounced and goes to his hand. On that play he is clumsy but doesn't do it intentionally and his hand doesn't go to the ball. SO, in my humble opinion there is actually no hand ball on that play. But the ref calls it and a monster kick ties the game. As you say this is history, let's move on. But it is fun to talk, that's why we are here for and who knows some days we might even learn a thing or 2 by doing so.

I am quite sure his Parents love hearing him referred to as "clumsy". Would of should could of scenario. Hit your shots and maybe things are different.

saw game

losing by 2

win because of free kick and pk and luck

need to shutup and tank god and have your team practice more

wait to you beat good team and get cocky then

What if it were reversed and Comets made their P.K and Free Kick; would they have won due to luck? I don't believe I have seemed cocky. I just don't agree with the term lucky. We have beaten good Teams; was your Team one of them? Please inform.

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rantnrave wrote:

gababa wrote:Actually Rantrave it seems that I feel like talking this morning and would like to entertain you with some semantic of soccer. A handball is not always a handball. T. Henri makes a handball to qualify the french team to the world cup. Indeed, his hand goes to the ball and controls the ball. On the other hand (ok, I won't do this one again) that kid misses his first touch, the ball bounced and goes to his hand. On that play he is clumsy but doesn't do it intentionally and his hand doesn't go to the ball. SO, in my humble opinion there is actually no hand ball on that play. But the ref calls it and a monster kick ties the game. As you say this is history, let's move on. But it is fun to talk, that's why we are here for and who knows some days we might even learn a thing or 2 by doing so.

I am quite sure his Parents love hearing him referred to as "clumsy". Would of should could of scenario. Hit your shots and maybe things are different.

Funny how you want to spread the love; read me again :"On that play he is clumsy". I don't know of anybody who once can't be clumsy; so once again on that play he is clumsy[/quote)
Okay, so now a decision is made by you as to how a 10-11 year old appears on the field. Excellent!