http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGvXWbZMiE
Listen to the mom on the sidelines

I didn't see much provocation to set off the puncher - looked like some pretty normal banging to me. Maybe he insulted his beard?

Freeatlast wrote:I didn't see much provocation to set off the puncher - looked like some pretty normal banging to me. Maybe he insulted his beard?

The beard is better than I can grow - the comments on the youtube video are interesting.

"Never insult the beard" Chuck Norris

IMO, pretty good job by the referee crew. not much center ref can do to anticipate thats gonna happen, but he's close to it and tries to separate players, but it turns into a brawl so he backs out to watch everyone involved. separates both teams and consults with the entire crew, then hands out the discipline. He got rid of 2 players really quickly cuz they were escalating the thing after the teams were separated, including the kid that got attacked cuz he was still huffing and puffing (i wouldve been mad too). ref also got rid of the kid that came from the sideline.
dont know why he brought everyone to the same sideline, but i'm gonna guess it was cuz both benches were there, which is not the case by UIL rules. UIL wants both benches on opposite sides for this exact reason. I really wish the ref would've gone a step further and cleared the near sideline of the dads with the cameras and sent them all into the stands, just as a preventative measure. I would've also asked the friendly policeman to remove the 2 kind ladies already in the stands entirely from the stadium. they were antagonizing the thing more and more from their spots and not helping the situation at all. besides, there was only 4 minutes left so they got their money's worth.
One thing, this only shows a 6 minute clip. we dont know what happened earlier in the match that created this. hell, this could've been a result of years of rivalry between teams or players, not solely for this one piece of time.

No matter what ( not justified ). The cop standing there with his thumb up his ass just witnessed an assault . Arrest the mo fo. Who knows the next time he is liable to have a gun, bat, ect at his disposal and the results could be much worse. As for the assault the kid got a friggin red card , WTF. The next day all his teamates will be talking about what a badass he is only reinforcing what he did . They should be talking about how his ass got taken to jail ,he was expelled and his parents are now facing a pending civil case as well as criminal case. What the f is up w parents today to think their just boys being boys?

plantit wrote:No matter what ( not justified ). The cop standing there with his thumb up his ass just witnessed an assault . Arrest the mo fo. Who knows the next time he is liable to have a gun, bat, ect at his disposal and the results could be much worse. As for the assault the kid got a friggin red card , WTF. The next day all his teamates will be talking about what a badass he is only reinforcing what he did . They should be talking about how his ass got taken to jail ,he was expelled and his parents are now facing a pending civil case as well as criminal case. What the f is up w parents today to think their just boys being boys?

Arresting every kid who gets into a fight in sporting conflicts is just plain stupid. We'd be arresting kids every weekend. What age would you like the arrests to begin? 12, 13? LOL

Here's a novel idea, keep your pie hole shut on the sideline. Let the kids play some football on their own. You're no good as a screaming parent. Let it go, people. Let it go....

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:No matter what ( not justified ). The cop standing there with his thumb up his ass just witnessed an assault . Arrest the mo fo. Who knows the next time he is liable to have a gun, bat, ect at his disposal and the results could be much worse. As for the assault the kid got a friggin red card , WTF. The next day all his teamates will be talking about what a badass he is only reinforcing what he did . They should be talking about how his ass got taken to jail ,he was expelled and his parents are now facing a pending civil case as well as criminal case. What the f is up w parents today to think their just boys being boys?

Arresting every kid who gets into a fight in sporting conflicts is just plain stupid. We'd be arresting kids every weekend. What age would you like the arrests to begin? 12, 13? LOL

You call it a fight . I see assault. The kid has anger issues . Whats next he beats the s* out of his wife or kids cause he got caught up in the moment. Puleez. People like you are the main reason we have issues in our schools ( Columbine) was just a school till 10 + people got shot. Turn a blind eye and chaulk it up to a kid being in a sporting conflict?? . What would you say if that was your son, on the receiving end . Or better yet the ( short fussed little a-hole) was dating your daughter and she came home with her face smashed in cause he didn't like the way he was being treated . You my friend are delusional to the point that you cannot seperate a shoving, finger pointing, sports conflict, from an aggressive beating.
My only other point is that the cop . Someone who has taken an oath to serve and protect ALL citizens didn't do s*.

plantit wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:No matter what ( not justified ). The cop standing there with his thumb up his ass just witnessed an assault . Arrest the mo fo. Who knows the next time he is liable to have a gun, bat, ect at his disposal and the results could be much worse. As for the assault the kid got a friggin red card , WTF. The next day all his teamates will be talking about what a badass he is only reinforcing what he did . They should be talking about how his ass got taken to jail ,he was expelled and his parents are now facing a pending civil case as well as criminal case. What the f is up w parents today to think their just boys being boys?

Arresting every kid who gets into a fight in sporting conflicts is just plain stupid. We'd be arresting kids every weekend. What age would you like the arrests to begin? 12, 13? LOL

You call it a fight . I see assault. The kid has anger issues . Whats next he beats the s* out of his wife or kids cause he got caught up in the moment. Puleez. People like you are the main reason we have issues in our schools ( Columbine) was just a school till 10 + people got shot. Turn a blind eye and chaulk it up to a kid being in a sporting conflict?? . What would you say if that was your son, on the receiving end . Or better yet the ( short fussed little a-hole) was dating your daughter and she came home with her face smashed in cause he didn't like the way he was being treated . You my friend are delusional to the point that you cannot seperate a shoving, finger pointing, sports conflict, from an aggressive beating.
My only other point is that the cop . Someone who has taken an oath to serve and protect ALL citizens didn't do s*.

You are so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start. The kid get into a fight at a competitive soccer game and the next thing you know, you have him beating his wife and kids!!
And then to top it off, it's people like me who caused Columbine???
If it were night time, I'd tell you to have another drink, but since it's noon...just go get some psychological help. Wow! Bad childhood, I guess.

tempers brewing

Lifetime ban. There's a start.

Hell, if anyone did that to my kid on the field, I'd take it up with his mom. Either they handle it in a prompt way, or it gets really ugly. Thug!

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:No matter what ( not justified ). The cop standing there with his thumb up his ass just witnessed an assault . Arrest the mo fo. Who knows the next time he is liable to have a gun, bat, ect at his disposal and the results could be much worse. As for the assault the kid got a friggin red card , WTF. The next day all his teamates will be talking about what a badass he is only reinforcing what he did . They should be talking about how his ass got taken to jail ,he was expelled and his parents are now facing a pending civil case as well as criminal case. What the f is up w parents today to think their just boys being boys?

Arresting every kid who gets into a fight in sporting conflicts is just plain stupid. We'd be arresting kids every weekend. What age would you like the arrests to begin? 12, 13? LOL

You call it a fight . I see assault. The kid has anger issues . Whats next he beats the s* out of his wife or kids cause he got caught up in the moment. Puleez. People like you are the main reason we have issues in our schools ( Columbine) was just a school till 10 + people got shot. Turn a blind eye and chaulk it up to a kid being in a sporting conflict?? . What would you say if that was your son, on the receiving end . Or better yet the ( short fussed little a-hole) was dating your daughter and she came home with her face smashed in cause he didn't like the way he was being treated . You my friend are delusional to the point that you cannot seperate a shoving, finger pointing, sports conflict, from an aggressive beating.
My only other point is that the cop . Someone who has taken an oath to serve and protect ALL citizens didn't do s*.

You are so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start. The kid get into a fight at a competitive soccer game and the next thing you know, you have him beating his wife and kids!!
And then to top it off, it's people like me who caused Columbine???
If it were night time, I'd tell you to have another drink, but since it's noon...just go get some psychological help. Wow! Bad childhood, I guess.

You strike me as the Biff type from back to the future .. High school Badass, who got off on this kind of thing who's now washing cars. I need to get help??? I see it for what it is . Why can't you?? It sickens me to think that people out there " LIKE YOU " are trying to quantify this as the norm in a heated game. There have been many studies that state aggitated agressive behavior only escalates. If one chooses the path of violence one will weave that behavior into their everyday life. Call me what you want. I'm a lover not a fighter . Hurt my property, wife or kids, and the trowl will be dropped.

You also haven't answered the ? Got a daughter?

go99 wrote:at least 1yr. With maybe some therapy involved. I remember the video of the college girl that was all over the internet. There is no way she started out that extreme. It all starts somewhere and no one helped her before. Now her college career is over with. The team kicked her off, pulled the scholorship and no other coach will touch her.

Well according to Happy feet ,,She did get a red card . Shes all better now.

Plantit, love how your property comes before the little wifey and Jr. I'm sending CrazyET to your house in his 4 wheel drive to chew up your lawn!

finish1 wrote:Plantit, love how your property comes before the little wifey and Jr. I'm sending CrazyET to your house in his 4 wheel drive to chew up your lawn!

As much as I invest in the little ones athletics they are property. one in the same . Plus crazy ET would have to much "ripple" in him by the time he got here, he'd miss some gears and drop his tranny before he got past the curb.

Wow, you rule with an iron fist. My first wife was considered property too, then she took all mine and it changed my life. Poor ET. Then he had to phone home and post bail. Even in revenge, still can't get it right.

plantit wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:No matter what ( not justified ). The cop standing there with his thumb up his ass just witnessed an assault . Arrest the mo fo. Who knows the next time he is liable to have a gun, bat, ect at his disposal and the results could be much worse. As for the assault the kid got a friggin red card , WTF. The next day all his teamates will be talking about what a badass he is only reinforcing what he did . They should be talking about how his ass got taken to jail ,he was expelled and his parents are now facing a pending civil case as well as criminal case. What the f is up w parents today to think their just boys being boys?

Arresting every kid who gets into a fight in sporting conflicts is just plain stupid. We'd be arresting kids every weekend. What age would you like the arrests to begin? 12, 13? LOL

You call it a fight . I see assault. The kid has anger issues . Whats next he beats the s* out of his wife or kids cause he got caught up in the moment. Puleez. People like you are the main reason we have issues in our schools ( Columbine) was just a school till 10 + people got shot. Turn a blind eye and chaulk it up to a kid being in a sporting conflict?? . What would you say if that was your son, on the receiving end . Or better yet the ( short fussed little a-hole) was dating your daughter and she came home with her face smashed in cause he didn't like the way he was being treated . You my friend are delusional to the point that you cannot seperate a shoving, finger pointing, sports conflict, from an aggressive beating.
My only other point is that the cop . Someone who has taken an oath to serve and protect ALL citizens didn't do s*.

You are so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start. The kid get into a fight at a competitive soccer game and the next thing you know, you have him beating his wife and kids!!
And then to top it off, it's people like me who caused Columbine???
If it were night time, I'd tell you to have another drink, but since it's noon...just go get some psychological help. Wow! Bad childhood, I guess.

You strike me as the Biff type from back to the future .. High school Badass, who got off on this kind of thing who's now washing cars. I need to get help??? I see it for what it is . Why can't you?? It sickens me to think that people out there " LIKE YOU " are trying to quantify this as the norm in a heated game. There have been many studies that state aggitated agressive behavior only escalates. If one chooses the path of violence one will weave that behavior into their everyday life. Call me what you want. I'm a lover not a fighter . Hurt my property, wife or kids, and the trowl will be dropped.

You also haven't answered the ? Got a daughter?

My last comment....
Never said it was the norm or that there should not be consequences. Stop putting words in my mouth. He should be punished severely, by the league, by the coach, by the school, by his parents. My point was that arresting kids who do this is ludicrous and I stand by that position. The Classic League is full of these events every season and the league deals with them as needed. The Richland PD doesn't get called to throw them in jail...nor should they.
Go to a football (american) game in TX and you see it every other game...and a number of the basketball games. How about hockey? Do we arrest them too...or is that ok because hockey is known for that?
Punishment/sanctions...absolutely. Arrest them? Silly

Ahh, the new American way, sue his parents. Makes me sick how no one can sit down in a room with two KIDS, some parents and coaches and resolve some teenage hormones a little out of control. Nooooo, we need police, judges district attorneys, defense lawyers and civil attorneys because every kid who looses his temper is the next mass murderer or wife beater. THIS is what is wrong today, not the cause of or fact that this fight occurred.

methinks that plantit might have a different opinion if his/her kid lost his temper and "assaulted" an opponent on the field. we'll see how quickly the "arrest him and throw him in jail" thoughts come from that direction if that ever happened. Of course, plantit probably comes from the tribe that lives across the river......you know, the My Kid Would Never Act That Way tribe.

Twobits, you've had 24 posts in 7 months and you want to take shots at players who regularly state their opinions. Kickballer mentality. Possess the ball, pass a few times, then take shots.

finish1 wrote:Twobits, you've had 24 posts in 7 months and you want to take shots at players who regularly state their opinions. Kickballer mentality. Possess the ball, pass a few times, then take shots.

Your post assumes that regular contributors know more about the game. After reading through many of the threads, that is clearly not true.
By the way, "twobits" would be 25 cents...not 2 cents.

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:

happyfeet wrote:

plantit wrote:No matter what ( not justified ). The cop standing there with his thumb up his ass just witnessed an assault . Arrest the mo fo. Who knows the next time he is liable to have a gun, bat, ect at his disposal and the results could be much worse. As for the assault the kid got a friggin red card , WTF. The next day all his teamates will be talking about what a badass he is only reinforcing what he did . They should be talking about how his ass got taken to jail ,he was expelled and his parents are now facing a pending civil case as well as criminal case. What the f is up w parents today to think their just boys being boys?

Arresting every kid who gets into a fight in sporting conflicts is just plain stupid. We'd be arresting kids every weekend. What age would you like the arrests to begin? 12, 13? LOL

You call it a fight . I see assault. The kid has anger issues . Whats next he beats the s* out of his wife or kids cause he got caught up in the moment. Puleez. People like you are the main reason we have issues in our schools ( Columbine) was just a school till 10 + people got shot. Turn a blind eye and chaulk it up to a kid being in a sporting conflict?? . What would you say if that was your son, on the receiving end . Or better yet the ( short fussed little a-hole) was dating your daughter and she came home with her face smashed in cause he didn't like the way he was being treated . You my friend are delusional to the point that you cannot seperate a shoving, finger pointing, sports conflict, from an aggressive beating.
My only other point is that the cop . Someone who has taken an oath to serve and protect ALL citizens didn't do s*.

You are so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start. The kid get into a fight at a competitive soccer game and the next thing you know, you have him beating his wife and kids!!
And then to top it off, it's people like me who caused Columbine???
If it were night time, I'd tell you to have another drink, but since it's noon...just go get some psychological help. Wow! Bad childhood, I guess.

You strike me as the Biff type from back to the future .. High school Badass, who got off on this kind of thing who's now washing cars. I need to get help??? I see it for what it is . Why can't you?? It sickens me to think that people out there " LIKE YOU " are trying to quantify this as the norm in a heated game. There have been many studies that state aggitated agressive behavior only escalates. If one chooses the path of violence one will weave that behavior into their everyday life. Call me what you want. I'm a lover not a fighter . Hurt my property, wife or kids, and the trowl will be dropped.

You also haven't answered the ? Got a daughter?

My last comment....
Never said it was the norm or that there should not be consequences. Stop putting words in my mouth. He should be punished severely, by the league, by the coach, by the school, by his parents. My point was that arresting kids who do this is ludicrous and I stand by that position. The Classic League is full of these events every season and the league deals with them as needed. The Richland PD doesn't get called to throw them in jail...nor should they.
Go to a football (american) game in TX and you see it every other game...and a number of the basketball games. How about hockey? Do we arrest them too...or is that ok because hockey is known for that?
Punishment/sanctions...absolutely. Arrest them? Silly

Ok i'll agree with that ( consequences) The little parent Talk , sanctions, kicked off the team ,ect. You guys Kill me . Just cause it happens here and there in football basketball ect. it makes it o.k.? You bring up hockey and yes in some instantces charges have been brought up. Fighting in that sport is often an agreed upon thing by both the involved parties. What the player did in the video was an attack. I think your saying that it should be treated differentally cause it happened in the course of a game . You guys act as if this was some little 12-13-year old scrum. When in fact the player was taller than the coach and could have most likely kicked his arse.

That same thing happens in a parking lot and it's an assault, plain and simple. The technicality is he is under age and has to many hormones, Oh, and it happend during a sports competition. By all means, Lets re-write the laws today

twotone wrote:methinks that plantit might have a different opinion if his/her kid lost his temper and "assaulted" an opponent on the field. we'll see how quickly the "arrest him and throw him in jail" thoughts come from that direction if that ever happened. Of course, plantit probably comes from the tribe that lives across the river......you know, the My Kid Would Never Act That Way tribe.

Now let me address the other "Shit for brains" poster. If my son did this ." First and formost" I would be disapointed in myself . That I had failed as a parent, to not " INSTILL " a sense of self control in my son. That I had failed as a parent for him to even THINK that this was an option. That he thought so little about the spirit of competition,his teamates ,his school , HIMSELF. Words could not express the disapointment I would feel. This was not an act of self defense

Second I would expect that he would be arrested . I would most likely escort the police car down to the court where I would have to post bail and hope that no charges are pursued . So yes ARREST and JAIL are 2 different things. You guys continue to gloss over , suger coat, make excuses for the main issue . The manner of the attack was like a ticking timebomb. It exploded and the beating was the result.

If you are going to play soccer, then play soccer. If you just want to get some kind of thrill hurting someone, then enter a karate, boxing, or toughman contest. When kids or adults step onto a soccer field, there is a certain level of trust that you must have for the other team. If one player is trying to just take cheap shots and hurt someone, then it ruins the game. It's not soccer anymore. While some elements of our culture, might get off on seeing soccer turn into this, the problem is that not every player stepped onto the field expecting this. Again, soccer requires trust and a respect for the game. If you are going to pull on shorts, then you should expect yours pulled as well. If you are going to play physical, then you should expect it back. It's a game.

Coaches really need to keep their cool and they should pull any player off the field that is playing mad. If they lose because they pulled a player, then they should place the reason for losing entirely on that player's mental weakness that let the team down.

My son began playing in the men's hispanic leagues when he was in the 8th grade. This is what he has learned:
1. You try as hard as possible to not hurt anyone.
2. If you put a hard or poor tackle on someone, you help them up.
3. If someone puts a hard tackle on you, you walk over and give them some skin (quick handshake)
4. Show respect at all times.
5. When the game is over, then its over. Win or lose, it was a good game.

It's hard to switch from this environment to the hostility of some of the players in club or high school. There are places they could play where they would learn respect.

I am surprised that no one has mentioned that there is no way to know from this clip if the game was already out of control. I see the "victim of the assault" deliver a nice hip check (foul #1) and then at least two nicely placed elbows to the ribs (fouls 2and #3) with no whistle. IF this what was being delivered to the big guy all game I am sure he told the "victim" if you elbow me in the ribs again then...., No one can say for certain what should happen with out being there and this the problem with the zero tolerance outlook.