Ibystander wrote:

soccerdad1 wrote:Isn't April the end of the 7th grade year? I know the Keller district has tryouts beginnig in early April for both 7th and 8th graders.

Yes, tryouts start around April, so 7th graders can start playing in the eighth grade. However, if they sign up for athletics, they can start playing football, basketball, then track as soon as they enter the 7th grade in the CFBISD.

Armadillo wrote:Keller has 5 middle schools. The high school soccer coaches coach the middle schools that feed into their high schools. My son goes to Keller Middle School which feeds into Keller High School. Keller High School has made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it makes sense for the coach to go to the middle school and start his program with the kids before they get to high school. I know we have had middle school soccer for at least 4 years now. All 5 middle schools play each other along with Northwest and Carroll/Southlake middle schools with an 8 game season starting in April. Most of the Keller middle schools field 3 different teams (A,B and C teams). Carroll has had 2 teams per middle school. We even have high school age referees working a dual system.

Armadillo wrote:Keller has 5 middle schools. The high school soccer coaches coach the middle schools that feed into their high schools. My son goes to Keller Middle School which feeds into Keller High School. Keller High School has made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it makes sense for the coach to go to the middle school and start his program with the kids before they get to high school. I know we have had middle school soccer for at least 4 years now. All 5 middle schools play each other along with Northwest and Carroll/Southlake middle schools with an 8 game season starting in April. Most of the Keller middle schools field 3 different teams (A,B and C teams). Carroll has had 2 teams per middle school. We even have high school age referees working a dual system.

Armadillo wrote:Keller has 5 middle schools. The high school soccer coaches coach the middle schools that feed into their high schools. My son goes to Keller Middle School which feeds into Keller High School. Keller High School has made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it makes sense for the coach to go to the middle school and start his program with the kids before they get to high school. I know we have had middle school soccer for at least 4 years now. All 5 middle schools play each other along with Northwest and Carroll/Southlake middle schools with an 8 game season starting in April. Most of the Keller middle schools field 3 different teams (A,B and C teams). Carroll has had 2 teams per middle school. We even have high school age referees working a dual system.

finish1 wrote:

Armadillo wrote:Keller has 5 middle schools. The high school soccer coaches coach the middle schools that feed into their high schools. My son goes to Keller Middle School which feeds into Keller High School. Keller High School has made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it makes sense for the coach to go to the middle school and start his program with the kids before they get to high school. I know we have had middle school soccer for at least 4 years now. All 5 middle schools play each other along with Northwest and Carroll/Southlake middle schools with an 8 game season starting in April. Most of the Keller middle schools field 3 different teams (A,B and C teams). Carroll has had 2 teams per middle school. We even have high school age referees working a dual system.

What is the cost to play?

Ed wrote:

finish1 wrote:

Armadillo wrote:Keller has 5 middle schools. The high school soccer coaches coach the middle schools that feed into their high schools. My son goes to Keller Middle School which feeds into Keller High School. Keller High School has made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it makes sense for the coach to go to the middle school and start his program with the kids before they get to high school. I know we have had middle school soccer for at least 4 years now. All 5 middle schools play each other along with Northwest and Carroll/Southlake middle schools with an 8 game season starting in April. Most of the Keller middle schools field 3 different teams (A,B and C teams). Carroll has had 2 teams per middle school. We even have high school age referees working a dual system.

What is the cost to play?

$0, it is school sponsored.

Axxman wrote:That's because Keller gets all those kids from New Mexico to play. Aren't they like 20 minutes apart?

finish1 wrote:

Armadillo wrote:Keller has 5 middle schools. The high school soccer coaches coach the middle schools that feed into their high schools. My son goes to Keller Middle School which feeds into Keller High School. Keller High School has made the playoffs the last 2 years, so it makes sense for the coach to go to the middle school and start his program with the kids before they get to high school. I know we have had middle school soccer for at least 4 years now. All 5 middle schools play each other along with Northwest and Carroll/Southlake middle schools with an 8 game season starting in April. Most of the Keller middle schools field 3 different teams (A,B and C teams). Carroll has had 2 teams per middle school. We even have high school age referees working a dual system.

What is the cost to play?

halfbaked wrote:

abc123 wrote:

Axxman wrote:

abc123 wrote:In Plano, schools in the area where I live do not have soccer until 11th - 12th grade. - Axx

You are mistaken. (Unless my 9th grader has pulled off one of the greatest get out of PE scams in history.)

Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken............Not sure what school your bb goes to, but my older one is at Jasper HS (9th and 10th grade). They are "allowed" to try out for the 11th/12th grade team, but there is no 9th/10th grade program per say. I know that some schools were trying to implement a soccer club, but it was not really part of the school system. So if I'm mistaken, can you please set me straight?

True, the high schools (9th and 10th) do not offer soccer. He gets on a bus before the last period and heads to West for practice or study hall on game days. This counts as a PE credit.
How many kids are falling through the cracks because they can't make the team as a Freshman or Sophomore? Do you think they will try out again as a Junior? I doubt it. The best Juniors and Seniors rarely even play for their High School. (Except at Jesuit). I applaud mightily those kids from Jesuit last year who told FCD to stick it when they were told by FCD that they couldn't play for their school. (I think Jesuit lost to Plano in the playoffs.) Can you imagine an AAU coach telling a kid that he couldn't play bball for his school? I guess I am get off the topic a bit.
I know, I know. The argument is that club soccer is better than UIL soccer. So? AAU bball is better than UIL bball. Does this mean that they don't co-exist and thrive? Bball in middle school and early high school gives more kids a chance to compete, represent their school, have fun, learn to work diligently towards a goal, stay off the Xbox, and most importantly, create life long memories with their friends. This needs to happen for soccer. More kids playing soccer equals more soccer fans in the future. This is the way to grow the game. Oh wait! If UIL and middle school soccer gain prominence then that would hurt the pocketbooks of the club coaches. We can't have that. Move along, nothing to see here.

Only because Jesuit was paying them more to play than FCD

abc123 wrote:

Axxman wrote:

abc123 wrote:In Plano, schools in the area where I live do not have soccer until 11th - 12th grade. - Axx

You are mistaken. (Unless my 9th grader has pulled off one of the greatest get out of PE scams in history.)

Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken............Not sure what school your bb goes to, but my older one is at Jasper HS (9th and 10th grade). They are "allowed" to try out for the 11th/12th grade team, but there is no 9th/10th grade program per say. I know that some schools were trying to implement a soccer club, but it was not really part of the school system. So if I'm mistaken, can you please set me straight?

True, the high schools (9th and 10th) do not offer soccer. He gets on a bus before the last period and heads to West for practice or study hall on game days. This counts as a PE credit.
How many kids are falling through the cracks because they can't make the team as a Freshman or Sophomore? Do you think they will try out again as a Junior? I doubt it. The best Juniors and Seniors rarely even play for their High School. (Except at Jesuit). I applaud mightily those kids from Jesuit last year who told FCD to stick it when they were told by FCD that they couldn't play for their school. (I think Jesuit lost to Plano in the playoffs.) Can you imagine an AAU coach telling a kid that he couldn't play bball for his school? I guess I am get off the topic a bit.
I know, I know. The argument is that club soccer is better than UIL soccer. So? AAU bball is better than UIL bball. Does this mean that they don't co-exist and thrive? Bball in middle school and early high school gives more kids a chance to compete, represent their school, have fun, learn to work diligently towards a goal, stay off the Xbox, and most importantly, create life long memories with their friends. This needs to happen for soccer. More kids playing soccer equals more soccer fans in the future. This is the way to grow the game. Oh wait! If UIL and middle school soccer gain prominence then that would hurt the pocketbooks of the club coaches. We can't have that. Move along, nothing to see here.

abc123 wrote:

Axxman wrote:

abc123 wrote:In Plano, schools in the area where I live do not have soccer until 11th - 12th grade. - Axx

You are mistaken. (Unless my 9th grader has pulled off one of the greatest get out of PE scams in history.)

Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken............Not sure what school your bb goes to, but my older one is at Jasper HS (9th and 10th grade). They are "allowed" to try out for the 11th/12th grade team, but there is no 9th/10th grade program per say. I know that some schools were trying to implement a soccer club, but it was not really part of the school system. So if I'm mistaken, can you please set me straight?

True, the high schools (9th and 10th) do not offer soccer. He gets on a bus before the last period and heads to West for practice or study hall on game days. This counts as a PE credit.
How many kids are falling through the cracks because they can't make the team as a Freshman or Sophomore? Do you think they will try out again as a Junior? I doubt it. The best Juniors and Seniors rarely even play for their High School. (Except at Jesuit). I applaud mightily those kids from Jesuit last year who told FCD to stick it when they were told by FCD that they couldn't play for their school. (I think Jesuit lost to Plano in the playoffs.) Can you imagine an AAU coach telling a kid that he couldn't play bball for his school? I guess I am get off the topic a bit.
I know, I know. The argument is that club soccer is better than UIL soccer. So? AAU bball is better than UIL bball. Does this mean that they don't co-exist and thrive? Bball in middle school and early high school gives more kids a chance to compete, represent their school, have fun, learn to work diligently towards a goal, stay off the Xbox, and most importantly, create life long memories with their friends. This needs to happen for soccer. More kids playing soccer equals more soccer fans in the future. This is the way to grow the game. Oh wait! If UIL and middle school soccer gain prominence then that would hurt the pocketbooks of the club coaches. We can't have that. Move along, nothing to see here.

happyfeet wrote:

abc123 wrote:

Axxman wrote:

abc123 wrote:In Plano, schools in the area where I live do not have soccer until 11th - 12th grade. - Axx

You are mistaken. (Unless my 9th grader has pulled off one of the greatest get out of PE scams in history.)

Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken............Not sure what school your bb goes to, but my older one is at Jasper HS (9th and 10th grade). They are "allowed" to try out for the 11th/12th grade team, but there is no 9th/10th grade program per say. I know that some schools were trying to implement a soccer club, but it was not really part of the school system. So if I'm mistaken, can you please set me straight?

True, the high schools (9th and 10th) do not offer soccer. He gets on a bus before the last period and heads to West for practice or study hall on game days. This counts as a PE credit.
How many kids are falling through the cracks because they can't make the team as a Freshman or Sophomore? Do you think they will try out again as a Junior? I doubt it. The best Juniors and Seniors rarely even play for their High School. (Except at Jesuit). I applaud mightily those kids from Jesuit last year who told FCD to stick it when they were told by FCD that they couldn't play for their school. (I think Jesuit lost to Plano in the playoffs.) Can you imagine an AAU coach telling a kid that he couldn't play bball for his school? I guess I am get off the topic a bit.
I know, I know. The argument is that club soccer is better than UIL soccer. So? AAU bball is better than UIL bball. Does this mean that they don't co-exist and thrive? Bball in middle school and early high school gives more kids a chance to compete, represent their school, have fun, learn to work diligently towards a goal, stay off the Xbox, and most importantly, create life long memories with their friends. This needs to happen for soccer. More kids playing soccer equals more soccer fans in the future. This is the way to grow the game. Oh wait! If UIL and middle school soccer gain prominence then that would hurt the pocketbooks of the club coaches. We can't have that. Move along, nothing to see here.

Can't even begin to agree with this statement above. My son's entire team (except for one) plays club (3 on Academy teams and 6 on D1 teams). Wakeland's (ranked #1 in 4A) got more than 11 who play club. Virtually all of his club team plays high school.

finish1 wrote:

Long term, the districts who adopt a developmental program from HS into the middle schools should produce a better product. Makes practical sense. The start-up costs for a middle school program is probably high. My guess is about $40k. An operational budget of about half that should sustain the sport. For my town, that would be less than $300 per player if our 3 middle schools had an A and B team.

Tequilapark wrote:

soccermom97b wrote:

Tequilapark wrote:

The German wrote:Frisco and Prosper have soccer in middle school but not McKinney. A group of parents asked two years ago about introducing soccer in middle school in McKinney but there is no interest whatsoever we were told.

Yep, Frisco starts in the 7th grade. Practices begin later this month, I believe tryouts are next week.

Frisco try-outs are this Thursday/Friday. There are enough middle schools in Frisco that we only play each other, not other school districts.

Thanks, my teenager told me next week, but I think he just wanted me to stop asking

He is at Stafford by the way.

Axxman wrote:Agreed ABC. It needs to start in middle school. Your point about 9/10th grade is valid, however, it still would keep kids that are not ready playing and participating in a team sport. Basketball has a 9th grade team, 10 grade team, JV, and Varsity. And I have seen kids that don't make the JV team as 10th graders go on to start on the Varsity team.

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:Agreed ABC. It needs to start in middle school. Your point about 9/10th grade is valid, however, it still would keep kids that are not ready playing and participating in a team sport. Basketball has a 9th grade team, 10 grade team, JV, and Varsity. And I have seen kids that don't make the JV team as 10th graders go on to start on the Varsity team.

I would love middle school soccer! Heck I would love freshman soccer just like half of the other 8-5A schools in our district. HOWEVER, my neighbor is the Asst. Atheletic Director. We bring this up to him on occassion. He told us last week, with the budget cuts, not only we will not have 9th grade soccer, but after next year, we may not have high school soccer at ALL!!!

omg!!

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:Agreed ABC. It needs to start in middle school. Your point about 9/10th grade is valid, however, it still would keep kids that are not ready playing and participating in a team sport. Basketball has a 9th grade team, 10 grade team, JV, and Varsity. And I have seen kids that don't make the JV team as 10th graders go on to start on the Varsity team.

I would love middle school soccer! Heck I would love freshman soccer just like half of the other 8-5A schools in our district. HOWEVER, my neighbor is the Asst. Atheletic Director. We bring this up to him on occassion. He told us last week, with the budget cuts, not only we will not have 9th grade soccer, but after next year, we may not have high school soccer at ALL!!!

omg!!

finish1 wrote:

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:Agreed ABC. It needs to start in middle school. Your point about 9/10th grade is valid, however, it still would keep kids that are not ready playing and participating in a team sport. Basketball has a 9th grade team, 10 grade team, JV, and Varsity. And I have seen kids that don't make the JV team as 10th graders go on to start on the Varsity team.

I would love middle school soccer! Heck I would love freshman soccer just like half of the other 8-5A schools in our district. HOWEVER, my neighbor is the Asst. Atheletic Director. We bring this up to him on occassion. He told us last week, with the budget cuts, not only we will not have 9th grade soccer, but after next year, we may not have high school soccer at ALL!!!

omg!!

District 8 - Can't see Plano or FM giving up on HS soccer. Allen or Lewisville?

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:Agreed ABC. It needs to start in middle school. Your point about 9/10th grade is valid, however, it still would keep kids that are not ready playing and participating in a team sport. Basketball has a 9th grade team, 10 grade team, JV, and Varsity. And I have seen kids that don't make the JV team as 10th graders go on to start on the Varsity team.

I would love middle school soccer! Heck I would love freshman soccer just like half of the other 8-5A schools in our district. HOWEVER, my neighbor is the Asst. Atheletic Director. We bring this up to him on occassion. He told us last week, with the budget cuts, not only we will not have 9th grade soccer, but after next year, we may not have high school soccer at ALL!!!

omg!!

soccerrus2 wrote:

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:Agreed ABC. It needs to start in middle school. Your point about 9/10th grade is valid, however, it still would keep kids that are not ready playing and participating in a team sport. Basketball has a 9th grade team, 10 grade team, JV, and Varsity. And I have seen kids that don't make the JV team as 10th graders go on to start on the Varsity team.

I would love middle school soccer! Heck I would love freshman soccer just like half of the other 8-5A schools in our district. HOWEVER, my neighbor is the Asst. Atheletic Director. We bring this up to him on occassion. He told us last week, with the budget cuts, not only we will not have 9th grade soccer, but after next year, we may not have high school soccer at ALL!!!

omg!!

Not happening. Maybe only have 1 JV team and reduce coaches but they will have High School Soccer. Reduce another district administrator first and you can pay for the team.

ontherightside wrote:

Axxman wrote:Agreed ABC. It needs to start in middle school. Your point about 9/10th grade is valid, however, it still would keep kids that are not ready playing and participating in a team sport. Basketball has a 9th grade team, 10 grade team, JV, and Varsity. And I have seen kids that don't make the JV team as 10th graders go on to start on the Varsity team.

I would love middle school soccer! Heck I would love freshman soccer just like half of the other 8-5A schools in our district. HOWEVER, my neighbor is the Asst. Atheletic Director. We bring this up to him on occassion. He told us last week, with the budget cuts, not only we will not have 9th grade soccer, but after next year, we may not have high school soccer at ALL!!!

omg!!